lol No.

Biden, Pence, and others have the same issue, they had documents they shouldn't have. But when asked to return them they did. None of them went to jail.

Well, any one of us would be in jail because the only way we could have the documents would be considered espionage. We didn't have a security officer hand them to us as a part of our job. That is not the case for Biden or Pence.

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Democrats, notoriously known for caring about governance.

Definition of a crime. This country only prosecutes lower level employees for this crime though. Not the rich and powerful.

And regardless if you think the laws should apply to powerful people or not, the bigger issue is the guy doesn't have the mental capacity for the job. We're going on a daily basis of him forgetting things, mumbling, or just mixing things up. Not the guy you want in charge as he continues to enter us into more wars (proxy or not).

Horseshit. Watch his presser from yesterday and it's clear he's very informed and mentally alert.

I wish the Dem nominee was younger, but the choice is Biden or Trump and there's no measure where Trump isn't worse.

I do forget names and words sometimes. Yeah, that's normal part of aging and that's life.

But when that happens, I recognize that I'm struggling to recall and accommodate in some other way (e.g. instead of using the word, use a phrase/description).

Joe doesn't seem to realize he's struggling and just goes on.

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Yup, I believe below is the truth.

What he's done as President means nothing re: accusation of his memory. He has a bunch of people to help and guide him.


Personally, if it's between Joe & Trump, I'd still take Joe because I trust his "support group" more than Trump and his. But yeah, if Trump wasn't in the picture, I'd lean towards someone else.

He needs to present & perform well in the debates (if they happen).

Couple thoughts:

1. Dems wanting to replace Biden with a "more popular" candidate are ignoring the fact that once someone becomes the nominee, they get attacked and lose popularity. Ride or die with Biden.

2. This is a bad report that attacks his biggest weakness. No way around that. He's lucky it came out in February and not October.

I'll vote Biden over Trump every time, but he is not mentally alert and he is getting worse.

He forgot the name of the church his sons funeral was at then confused Mexico and Egypt. Every time he speaks he has these gaffes. They aren't taking the free publicity of doing a super bowl interview. There is no way 5 years from now he is even remotely fit to still be serving.

His arrogance and refusal to step aside is going to get Trump reelected.

On predict it Trump is at .47 and Biden .40. Biden is down .03. Newsome is up to .10

I'm glad to read they've started thinking about the "risk log" and all the possible bad things that could happen. Need to come up with contingency/mitigation plans.

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Whatever they come up with, it needs to become public. There needs to be transparency so we all understand the "process" of how stuff will be identified and handled.

I swear, am I the only one who ever has words escape him? I was at the doctor's Wednesday and I totally forgot the word "hernia." Just couldn't find it, and once you know you can't find a word it just makes it worse ("shit, I can't find the word, I gotta find the word or I'm going to look like an idiot -- crap, now I'm worried about it AND IT ISN'T HELPING")

Newsome's got a friendly donor throwing money at this for publicity. There's no way a white guy liberal from California somehow sneaks into the nomination without winning any primaries.

There's a very narrow path for someone other than Biden or Harris, but it doesn't include Newsome.

Of course not but you also don't have the nuclear codes.

His cognitive decline isn't nearly as bad as the right wing media makes it out to be, but it is undeniable there is decline and that isn't something that's going to improve.

Happens to me a lot too.

I can't remember names at all. To a point I fear I might be showing signs of early onset dementia.

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I really hope they do some ancestry stuff, there's got to be a common ancestor.

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I mean, it happens at the weirdest times on the most basic of things. Like..."what't that bird, you know the one that's blue and green, has the feathers with the eye things..." "Oh, you mean a peacock?" That one has escaped me MORE THAN ONCE.

Or, watching Jeopardy!. Really famous actor/actress? Know exactly who is being talked about...vape on the name. Obscure fact about the 17th century? INSTAGET. So it's not nearly everything, or even most things. Just every now and then, "yeah, sorry we have a bad pointer to this byte/sector, give us a minute, we'll get there...eventually."

Yeah, I'm bad with names. And sometimes on Jeopardy they'll show someone famous who I know well and it's just "oh, for god's sake, I know this!"

Also re: nuclear codes -- I mean it's not like you have to memorize the codes, right?

True but what if he means to say nuke Russia and instead says nuke Romania!

I think you're joking, but they have a lot of safeguards in place for that. Nobody gets nuked without being absolutely sure it's what you want to do.

:banghead:

I suddenly have the urge to watch Dr. Strangelove

He had an impromptu press conference to tell us his memory was good and proceeded to mix up Egypt and Mexico. This after a week of mixing up leaders in major European countries.

Like I get if you'd prefer him over Trump at all costs. But you've got to face reality that his mind is shot and there is no way he's finishing out that second term.

I don't believe for a second he was ever intended to finish out the first term, much less a second one.

Then they realized Plan B was even more out of it .. why they haven't found a different VP candidate for this round (which, hey, it ain't too late I guess) is a mystery

He didn't mix up two countries he said the word name. You can't watch his presser and think his mind is shot.

As for dumping Harris, how exactly do you do that and retain the black vote?

because if you kick a black woman off the ticket you lose a shit ton of votes

Not if you replace her with another (or some other double minority, whatever they have on the bench)

You have very little understanding of Dem coalitions if you think you can just replace one woman of color with another and have the voters all step into line.

And that's even before the woman replaced starts talking about what really happened behind closed doors.

No one gives a shit about Kamala Harris.

He insinuated during the last campaign that he'd only serve one term and be a "bridge" President.

Democrats have had 4 years to prop up other candidates and didn't. Part of me wonders if they'd be happier losing and in the minority. A lot less pressure and fundraising off Trump is probably easier. Or they could just be incredibly dumb and bad at politics which is sort of their thing.

Yes I can. I can also watch the other pressers where he's mumbling and stumbling all over himself. Or the reports of him mixing up the names of leaders. Or the report that said he doesn't remember when he was Vice President or when his son died.

I think some of the dementia stuff early in his term was overblown, but he's shown some considerable cognitive declines of late. Just watch videos of him from 4-5 years ago and compare it to today. It's staggering. And imagine another 4 years of cognitive decline.

And I don't know how you dump Kamala Harris. Probably shouldn't have put an incredibly unpopular person with negative charisma as your running mate the first time around. The chickens are coming home to roost. They're likely fucked this election. I guess they can just blame Russia again or something.

The "test".

Joe should take it in secret. If good, publicize it. If bad, keep on denying it. My guess is he may pass but it won't be "good".

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Again, you insinuate that there's another option. There's not. The choice is Trump or Biden.

They had 4 years to find someone else and didn't. So now you're stuck pretending this is normal behavior as everyone with functioning eyes and ears roll their eyes.

I don't even blame Biden. The 80s are not kind to most people. But this was expected.

I'll vote for Biden dead corpse over any Republican. He'll do a better job regardless if he's breathing or not.

Name me the last time a party did this. You're asking dozens of Democratic politicians to not only subvert their own ambitions, but do so in the pursuit of undermining their newly-elected POTUS. You're not being realistic, as usual.


There's literally more precedent for a party allowing a POTUS in skeptical health to run for his second term (Reagan & FDR, at least) than there is for what you're suggesting.

Again, you insinuate there was another option. There was not.

At least be honest, RM, you want the Democrats to get annhiliated at this election so you can say "I told you so" and tell us all how electing Bernie would have been better.

I genuinely don't care who wins. Both options are pretty bad for the country.

Bernie could never win a general election. Heck, he can't even get half of Democrats to vote for him. Talk about an unmitigated disaster of a candidate.

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Meanwhile Trump said that he's going to nationalize the guard and send red state guards into blue cities on day one to start deportations.

And if that's not enough, he said he wouldn't fight for NATO allies and would instead encourage Russia to do whatever the hell they wanted.

Michelle will save the Dems!

Anyone who seriously believes that is an idiot. Ill bet whatever you like that Michelle won't be the nominee.

Don't care about Russia or what they do. Has no impact in my life or yours. The current strategy of lighting money on fire in Ukraine hasn't done anything but put us deeper in debt.

Biden is also pushing an incredibly far right immigration bill that mirrors what Trump wants to do. Going to have to pick a different policy to differentiate the two.

Just go full Trump, man. It's obvious this is where you're heading.

Looks like Biden has had a helluva 10+ days since I've been out of the country. Yeesh.

Politics isn't binary and I can't help that I don't support the primary positions of both options. You don't have to "pick a team" and support them to the ends of the earth.

I guess if Trump wins, we'll be on the same side politically since it'll be someone with an R next to the name doing the stuff.

The choice of whether to have Biden be the nominee again if he wanted to be was made when he was nominated in 2020, practically speaking. You don't just decide to pick someone else when you have an incumbent president of your party. We might all wish politics worked differently in various ways, but you have to deal with and make decisions based off the way it actually functions.

That's a nice, comfy, naive, privileged place to be. Congrats.

Michelle tried to talk Barack out of running for President. Not a chance in hell she'll ever get into running for a political office.