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whomario 03-17-2018 04:58 PM



Thomkal 03-17-2018 05:18 PM

wow put that on playback on every Fox news channel twitter.

NobodyHere 03-17-2018 08:23 PM

A couple of Democratic congressmen are offering McCabe a job so he can get his full pension. Apparently he only has to work a day.

whomario 03-17-2018 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3199167)
A couple of Democratic congressmen are offering McCabe a job so he can get his full pension. Apparently he only has to work a day.


That's what imo is the real problem with a guy like Trump: He makes everything personal and actively seeks to hurt people as much as he can. Not just fire a guy, but fire him a day short of his pension and personally attack him.

And he doesn't seem to grasp at all that people in the public agencies are not his employees but civil servants. There's a difference and he doesn't get it.

Thomkal 03-17-2018 09:21 PM

So this is what set off Trump's latest tweet storm:

Mueller gives Trump's legal team questions for potential interview: report | TheHill

JPhillips 03-17-2018 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario (Post 3199175)
That's what imo is the real problem with a guy like Trump: He makes everything personal and actively seeks to hurt people as much as he can. Not just fire a guy, but fire him a day short of his pension and personally attack him.

And he doesn't seem to grasp at all that people in the public agencies are not his employees but civil servants. There's a difference and he doesn't get it.


Just to clarify, make someone else fire a guy. He's too much of a pussy to do it himself.

JPhillips 03-17-2018 10:29 PM

dola

I'm sure this is just an odd coincidence.

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Cambridge Analytica, the data firm the Trump campaign used during the 2016 election, met with Russian business executives, The New York Times reported Saturday.

The firms’ employees had been in contact with executives from Russian oil giant Lukoil in 2014 and 2015, according to company documents.

There were reportedly three meetings with Lukoil executives in London and Turkey and Lukoil was interested in how data was used to target American voters.

AlexB 03-18-2018 02:47 AM

While I agree with the complete double standard on the Fox clips, and think Trump is a disaster in general, note that Obama said he would talk/meet, Trump said he is meeting, so there is something to crow about.

It may well be that Kim agreed to meet with Trump as he thinks he is far more likely to be able to get what he wants through Trump than with Obama, but until the meet actually happens and Trump announces that the US has become the junior partner in the new Kormerica, Trump definitely has a ‘win’ to claim.

whomario 03-18-2018 06:23 AM

Until it happens it can't be a win, not if you say it can't be a loss either.

Edward64 03-18-2018 10:31 AM

Rambling thoughts this morning.

Hillary is starting (continuing?) to sound like a sore loser now. She should just fade away gracefully or play behind the scenes as the grand dame.

I think the odds of Mueller being fired has increased. Looking forward to the Mueller vs Trump escalation. I'm still thinking no collusion between Trump and Russians but can easily believe collusion with Trump's team and Russians.

No specific details on what/how McCabe mislead but he was probably wrong. I like a response from a talking head this morning (paraphrased) ... "the firing may have merit but its not without taint".

If I was Rex, I would be glad the attention wasn't on me all week.

Atocep 03-18-2018 11:36 AM

Trump seems to be getting really worried about the Mueller investigation.

BBT 03-18-2018 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199223)
Rambling thoughts this morning.

Hillary is starting (continuing?) to sound like a sore loser now. She should just fade away gracefully or play behind the scenes as the grand dame.


Agreed. She's doing more harm than good. Needs to bow out gracefully; her time is done.

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199223)
I think the odds of Mueller being fired has increased. Looking forward to the Mueller vs Trump escalation. I'm still thinking no collusion between Trump and Russians but can easily believe collusion with Trump's team and Russians.


Mueller can only be fired by Rosenstein since Sessions recused himself. Rosenstein would have to be fired first by Sessions and they'd have to replace him with someone that had to be approved by the Senate. Senate wants the investigation to continue.

Whether Trump himself colluded isn't really the issue anymore. The evidence is piling up that he's obstructing justice. Honestly, for his own sake, he should throw everybody that he thinks colluded under the bus and move on. Continuing to tweet like he is won't help him.

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199223)
No specific details on what/how McCabe mislead but he was probably wrong. I like a response from a talking head this morning (paraphrased) ... "the firing may have merit but its not without taint".


It's typical Trump.

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199223)
If I was Rex, I would be glad the attention wasn't on me all week.


Yep

Edward64 03-18-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3199229)
Trump seems to be getting really worried about the Mueller investigation.


I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing things there.

Atocep 03-18-2018 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199246)
I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing things there.


I agree, but I don't think collusion is what Mueller is going to hiit him with.

On a side note, keep in mind that Trump can also fire Mueller by firing Sessions and replacing him with someone that doesn't need to recuse himself.

Marc Vaughan 03-18-2018 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199246)
I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing things there.


I think he'll definitely go down for tax evasion without a doubt - collusion I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, but proving it will be far harder than catching him for dodgy business practices ..

mckerney 03-18-2018 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by mckerney (Post 3198316)
It's amazing what you can't find when you're not looking for it.


Shocking.

House Intel Republican says panel did not investigate collusion | TheHill

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Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) said Sunday the House Intelligence Committee was not tasked with investigating collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign, despite the committee issuing a report last week stating it found no evidence of collusion in the 2016 election.

“Our committee was not charged with answering the collusion idea,” Conaway said on NBC's “Meet The Press.”

"So we really weren’t focused on that direction."

Thomkal 03-18-2018 03:39 PM

Just digging his hole deeper

JPhillips 03-18-2018 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3199248)
I agree, but I don't think collusion is what Mueller is going to hiit him with.

On a side note, keep in mind that Trump can also fire Mueller by firing Sessions and replacing him with someone that doesn't need to recuse himself.


I expect the report on collusion will be blistering, but much, maybe all of it won't be illegal, so Mueller will put them in jail through perjury and financial crimes. That way he doesn't have to hope the GOP congress will take action for what are political crimes.

Ben E Lou 03-18-2018 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199246)
I'm thinking not about collusion. I figure its more about Mueller getting into his and family's business. There are likely some embarrassing illegal things there.

Fixed.

miami_fan 03-18-2018 06:43 PM

No love for the re-election of President Putin? 73.9% is impressive.

PilotMan 03-18-2018 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3199285)
Fixed.


Numerous. Incredibly numerous.

whomario 03-18-2018 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3199300)
No love for the re-election of President Putin? 73.9% is impressive.


Not really, not with the state of the russian “democracy“. Even without going into this (plenty of hidden camera vids out there showing officials stuffing ballot boxes with bogus votes and such, not to mention more systematic fraud), this is essentially like a US vote would go if you had just one major party with 90% of the media beholden to it and then a bunch of independent-like competitors in terms of ressources both financially and logistically. The communist party the biggest of those but that message isn't exactly inspiring the younger generation to vote. Most of the others a big portion of voters dont even have on their radar.

I mean, victory was such a foregone conclusion that the main empasise towards the end was purely getting the voter participation up (which was down a decent amount even by the official numbers).

Edward64 03-18-2018 09:18 PM

I don't think US democracy works everywhere. FWIW, the % may be less but I think Putin would have won in a "fair" election anyway.

sabotai 03-18-2018 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by whomario (Post 3199322)
(plenty of hidden camera vids out there showing officials stuffing ballot boxes with bogus votes and such, not to mention more systematic fraud)


Выборная Навка (@Gulay_Pole) | Twitter

Twitter page of someone posting CCTV footage of people stuffing ballot boxes.

Groundhog 03-18-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3199330)
I don't think US democracy works everywhere. FWIW, the % may be less but I think Putin would have won in a "fair" election anyway.


To be perfectly honest, not sure it works anywhere, US included. I won't claim a dictatorship is a better solution, but two party opposition politics is hardly a political utopia.

JPhillips 03-18-2018 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whomario (Post 3199322)
Not really, not with the state of the russian “democracy“. Even without going into this (plenty of hidden camera vids out there showing officials stuffing ballot boxes with bogus votes and such, not to mention more systematic fraud), this is essentially like a US vote would go if you had just one major party with 90% of the media beholden to it and then a bunch of independent-like competitors in terms of ressources both financially and logistically. The communist party the biggest of those but that message isn't exactly inspiring the younger generation to vote. Most of the others a big portion of voters dont even have on their radar.

I mean, victory was such a foregone conclusion that the main empasise towards the end was purely getting the voter participation up (which was down a decent amount even by the official numbers).


And the only possible threat(Navalny) arrested and deemed ineligible for the election.

Thomkal 03-19-2018 07:07 AM

This will come as no surprise but Trump made senior staff sign NDA's to try to prevent them from leaking:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ort/436778002/

cuervo72 03-19-2018 07:28 AM

Yeah, that doesn't seem enforceable.

Marc Vaughan 03-19-2018 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3199372)
This will come as no surprise but Trump made senior staff sign NDA's to try to prevent them from leaking:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ort/436778002/


That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).

cartman 03-19-2018 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 3199376)
That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).


Those kinds of things would be covered by your security clearance.

Edward64 03-19-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 3199376)
That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).


That's what I would have thought. TBH, I think a NDA is appropriate. I would assume that does not cover any criminal activities.

cuervo72 03-19-2018 09:49 AM

Seems like a big assumption to me.

Thomkal 03-19-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 3199376)
That I would have expected would be standard for any WH job surely? (in terms of revealing secrets about decisions etc.).


As far as I know Trump is the first President to require them. Freedom of Speech, protecting potential whistleblowers, etc is what I was thinking of here.

whomario 03-19-2018 10:21 AM

If you can't inspire loyalty, force it.

miami_fan 03-19-2018 02:52 PM

Details. I am sure if you asked Putin, he would tell you that all those things had no impact whatsoever on the election results.

#Don’tQuestionThePresidentialElections

Edward64 03-19-2018 03:57 PM

Not sure where to put this but wanted to record it for posterity sake.

If I was him, I would have said "sorry, bad joke" but the apology implies he really believed it. Weird.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/19/polit...ent/index.html
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A Washington, DC, council member apologized Sunday night after receiving backlash for comments he made in a video implying Washington's snowy March weather was controlled by Jewish financiers.
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"Man, it just started snowing out of nowhere this morning, man. Y'all better pay attention to this climate control, man, this climate manipulation," he says in the video, which was shot through windshield of a car driving through downtown Washington. "And DC keep talking about, 'We a resilient city.' And that's a model based off the Rothschilds controlling the climate to create natural disasters they can pay for to own the cities, man. Be careful."

Thomkal 03-19-2018 07:31 PM

Pennsylvania Repub's strike out in their attempt to prevent the new congressional map from taking place:

Supreme Court denies GOP request to block new Pa. congressional map | TheHill

Thomkal 03-19-2018 07:37 PM

The firm Trump campaign used in the 2016 election Cambridge Analytica for data gathering, caught on camera detailing some of the things it did to influence more than 200 elections around the world:

Cambridge Analytica CEO filmed talking about using bribes, sex workers in political work | TheHill

Thomkal 03-19-2018 07:40 PM

Lots of stories breaking today:

Trump hiring former federal prosecutor who's argued FBI framed president | TheHill

Thomkal 03-19-2018 08:03 PM

Ari Melber had Stormy Daniels attorney on again-Trump had to admit in lawsuit against Stormy that he was David Dennison-check out of msnbc for interview. And Fox covering the story less than "mainstream media" and her attorney has not received one request for an interview.

kingfc22 03-19-2018 09:39 PM

Looks like Jr prefers cheating on his wife with a blonde with fake tits just as much as pops.

Groundhog 03-19-2018 09:43 PM

The dung doesn't fall far from the donkey's asshole, or however that saying goes.

JPhillips 03-19-2018 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3199487)


Hiring 70-some year old Joe DiGenova is so pathetic.

cuervo72 03-20-2018 01:07 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...gnancy-n857686

Again, none of this is about pregnancy, it is about sex.

PilotMan 03-20-2018 04:00 PM

Gay sex is the real answer to unwanted pregnancies.

molson 03-20-2018 04:24 PM

Wasn't the Sermon on the Mount about female sexual purity?

That Jesus guy was always going on and on about sex.

NobodyHere 03-20-2018 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3199619)
Gay sex is the real answer to unwanted pregnancies.


The South prefers bestiality

Edward64 03-20-2018 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3199626)
The South prefers bestiality


WTF? Where did that come from?

ISiddiqui 03-20-2018 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3199626)
The South prefers bestiality


The South will rise again... for pig sex.

PilotMan 03-20-2018 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3199626)
The South prefers bestiality


Growing up in North Dakota, it was Montana where the men were men, and the sheep were scared.


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