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bronconick 11-28-2023 03:35 PM

Goodbye movie theaters, already damaged by COVID.

GrantDawg 11-28-2023 04:24 PM

Meanwhile, Hunter Biden has agreed to testify before Congress in an open committee hearing and the Republicans refuse to allow it. They want a private hearing so they can control the narrative of what gets out. Ridiculous.

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JPhillips 12-01-2023 11:14 AM

Santos expelled.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him show up for work on Monday as if nothing happened.

Atocep 12-01-2023 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3420057)
Santos expelled.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him show up for work on Monday as if nothing happened.


And Clay Higgins defense of him was that the ethics committee report came down too hard on one of their own so it had to be politically motivated.

Edward64 12-01-2023 12:47 PM

Bi-partisanship is alive!

Buh bye

albionmoonlight 12-01-2023 12:50 PM

Now do Bob Menendez.

Kodos 12-01-2023 12:56 PM

Quid pro quo, Dr. Lecter.

Edward64 12-01-2023 06:02 PM

Easy read on where we are on Ukraine-Israel-Border bill.

Bottom-line. The GOP wants Parole & Asylum to be more stringent as the price for the Ukraine/Israel aid. May be more give on Israel but definitely on Ukraine. But not a sure thing it'll get done in Dec.

House deal to secure aid for Israel and Ukraine could hinge on border funding | PBS NewsHour
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Just on the verge of December, this is the timeline we're looking at. This is when the Senate is hoping to have a vote on some kind of foreign aid and border bill, maybe next week. But then look at the entire calendar for this year. Congress is only in session next week and the week following it.

So it is really hard to do the math to see how they get all of this done. Hope springs eternal. But it's all to say that there has to be a deal, essentially, this week. And I'll tell you, walking here from the Capitol tonight, it seemed like they are farther away than closer.


Whatever is agreed on in Dec/Jan, I sure hope they also have an understanding that real discussions on Immigration Reform starts in 2024 and really worked on after elections.

RainMaker 12-04-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3420064)
Now do Bob Menendez.


Speaking of Menendez, story gets weirder.

Bob Menendez case: Gold bars found in Clifton home of Menendez – NBC New York

Atocep 12-04-2023 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3420064)
Now do Bob Menendez.



Atocep 12-05-2023 02:19 PM

Tuberville is dropping his hold on military promotions. It's impossible to even estimate the damage this caused because this dumbass doesn't understand the military and thinks there are "too many "officers" and that it works like football where the next man up just fills in.

NobodyHere 12-05-2023 02:21 PM

How much damage to the military has this actually caused? I can't imagine it's really all that much.

Atocep 12-05-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3420503)
How much damage to the military has this actually caused? I can't imagine it's really all that much.


Officers have a hard date to get promoted to the next rank or retire. It's not uncommon for an officer to get nominated for promotion on their last attempt before forced retirement. These holds very likely resulted in officers that were waiting to be promoted to instead be forced to retire because their promotion was held up. There is no waiver process for this there are no exceptions because a senator is being a double.

The next man up argument also fails because there are only so many slots for each rank at an instalation. So if someone has left a position and another person gets promoted and is expected to fill that role there is no next man up. You're doing 2 jobs until you are promoted and able to fill your expected role and they can then PCS someone in to fill your current job. That creates massive chain reaction down the line holding up PCSs and stalling careers. Less officers doing more work would also have significant impacts on readiness as there are only so many hours to go around.

We also had at least one officer suffer a heart attack due to the stress of working 2 jobs because his promotion was on hold.

Atocep 12-05-2023 02:41 PM

Also, while it's nice to avoid shutdowns operating under a continuing resolution for a significant amount of time has impacts as well. We've been locked into the same budget rather than being able to match inflation and growth in Healthcare needs/costs.

There really isn't much of a solution when it comes ro providing Healthcare to active duty, depedents, and retirees other than stare at a massive deficit and hope an actual budget is approved before the end of the fiscal year.

Just wanted to give an example of the unintended and overlooked consequences of the CR that isn't mentioned.

RainMaker 12-05-2023 03:48 PM

It doesn't sounds like he's going to fully drop his objections. Said he'd still do it for "woke" promotions which probably just means women and minorities.

Atocep 12-05-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3420509)
It doesn't sounds like he's going to fully drop his objections. Said he'd still do it for "woke" promotions which probably just means women and minorities.


Yeah WTF is a woke promotion?

NobodyHere 12-05-2023 04:11 PM

I thought this was pretty funny

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/con...deo-rcna128014

sovereignstar v2 12-05-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by NobodyHere (Post 3420513)
I thought this was pretty funny

Access Denied


It was funnier 21 hours ago when Atocep posted it :D

Edward64 12-05-2023 06:14 PM

Yup, I agree Joe.

Forget the naysayers, you are the best chance of beating Trump again ...

... unless you totally flub the debates. For that matter, do you even need to have a debate with him?

Biden: ‘If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running’ - MarketWatch
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President Joe Biden said Tuesday he’s not sure he’d be running again for the White House if former President Donald Trump weren’t also in the race, telling donors that Democrats “cannot let him win.”

“If Trump wasn’t running, I’m not sure I’d be running,” the president said in remarks in Boston. “But we cannot let him win.”

Biden’s comments come as Trump maintains a commanding lead in polls for the Republican presidential nomination, and four other GOP primary contenders are set to debate on Wednesday night.

Biden has been attacking Trump as a threat to democracy and has sounded the alarm about the former president’s desires to gut the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare.

Polls show a matchup between Biden and Trump as essentially tied, and the current president has lately been sharpening his attacks against his predecessor.

Edward64 12-06-2023 12:17 PM

Buh bye McCarthy.

Wish we could say we hardly knew you.

Brian Swartz 12-06-2023 12:21 PM

I'm not at all convinced Biden is the best chance of beating Trump. I also think that's a very bad reason for him to run again.

BYU 14 12-06-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian Swartz (Post 3420587)
I'm not at all convinced Biden is the best chance of beating Trump. I also think that's a very bad reason for him to run again.


Honestly I worry about this too. Right now one of the top 2 talking points against Biden is the cognitive narrative. A strong, younger candidate would take that away.

GrantDawg 12-06-2023 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3420588)
Honestly I worry about this too. Right now one of the top 2 talking points against Biden is the cognitive narrative. A strong, younger candidate would take that away.

But then they would add whatever baggage that they carry, or whatever the Republicans can make people believe about them. Who is the better candidate? We could name a few in theory, but what would they be by the time they really hit the campaign floor and all the warts come out? How will they react to the spot-light? How good a campaigner are they actually? Did they have a bad or shady business dealing that will come out? Did their wives? Did their kids?
I do wish there was a stronger, younger candidate running. I wish Biden had chosen not to run. But I can't say with any certainty whoever won a Democratic primary would actually be a stronger candidate than Biden versus Trump.

RainMaker 12-11-2023 12:50 PM


RainMaker 12-11-2023 12:51 PM

From some other polls and this one it seems Kennedy helps Biden more than Trump.

Edward64 12-12-2023 11:21 PM

Yup, gut check time Joe. You're going to need to compromise if you want Ukraine-Israel-Taiwan funding.

But you're going to lose some votes. Proverbial rock and a hard place. I think compromise now and then campaign on holistic immigration reform in 2025.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigra...n-deportation/
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The Biden administration on Tuesday indicated to congressional lawmakers that it would be willing to support a new border authority to expel migrants without asylum screenings, as well as a dramatic expansion of immigration detention and deportations, to convince Republicans to back aid to Ukraine, four people familiar with the matter told CBS News.

The White House informed Senate Democrats that it could back those sweeping and hardline immigration policy changes as part of the negotiations over President Biden's emergency funding request, a roughly $100 billion package that includes military aid to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine, as well as money to bolster border enforcement and hire additional immigration officials.

JPhillips 12-13-2023 07:31 AM

The GOP won't agree to anything. There's a report that Schumer offered a vote on a GOP written bill and they refused to provide anything.

Qwikshot 12-13-2023 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3420880)
From some other polls and this one it seems Kennedy helps Biden more than Trump.


My mom is a Trumper who wants to switch to independent to vote for him. I don't argue with her.

albionmoonlight 12-13-2023 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3421039)
The GOP won't agree to anything. There's a report that Schumer offered a vote on a GOP written bill and they refused to provide anything.


That's Biden's problem.

The GOP does not want to fix immigration.

They want to blame Biden for broken immigration.

There's no deal to be had because a bi-partisan deal makes Biden look good.

NobodyHere 12-13-2023 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3421039)
The GOP won't agree to anything. There's a report that Schumer offered a vote on a GOP written bill and they refused to provide anything.


Schumer needs to make such an offer public.

Ksyrup 12-13-2023 04:14 PM

I don't check Twitter much these days but if I did, I'd bet the NYTimesPitchbot account posted something along the lines of, "Dow Jones Hits Its All-Time High. See How That Could Spell Trouble for Biden."

JPhillips 12-13-2023 04:40 PM

The GOP wants the Dems to write a bill that pisses off as many Dems as possible and then, at the last minute, claim they were betrayed and refuse to vote for it.

We've seen this before.

Atocep 12-13-2023 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3421080)
The GOP wants the Dems to write a bill that pisses off as many Dems as possible and then, at the last minute, claim they were betrayed and refuse to vote for it.

We've seen this before.


Yep

Immigration is a losing issue for Dems with Rs and the GOP wants to keep it that way. As long as their voters feel it's broken and the GOP can blame dems there's not reason to fix it because it's probably the top issue that drives their voters to the polls.

Even with the GOP holding the presidency and both chambers of congress they've had no interest in implementing any of their "fixes".

RainMaker 12-13-2023 05:54 PM

I think the GOP will take the deal. It's pretty draconian and what they've wanted for a long time. They don't really have to give up anything in return. I mean funneling some money to defense contractors for weapons in Ukraine and Israel is a win for them too. And it hurts Biden.

They should take the deal and the victory lap.

RainMaker 12-14-2023 01:50 PM


Atocep 12-14-2023 02:49 PM

A bipartisan bill passed that prevents the President from pulling out of NATO without congressional authorization.

It's amazing even the GOP has to put guardrails up so that their leading candidate for president can't fuck things up.

PilotMan 12-14-2023 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3421091)
I think the GOP will take the deal. It's pretty draconian and what they've wanted for a long time. They don't really have to give up anything in return. I mean funneling some money to defense contractors for weapons in Ukraine and Israel is a win for them too. And it hurts Biden.

They should take the deal and the victory lap.



A lot of Dems have wanted a deal on immigration and border patrol for a long, long time. Before trump co-opted the border as a 'right' issue, it was a 'left' issue.

RainMaker 12-14-2023 06:49 PM

I mean it's the complete opposite of what Biden campaigned on so I don't think it's a positive for Democrats. He's not giving these concessions because he thinks it'll help him.

Edward64 12-14-2023 06:58 PM

Let's hope it gets through the Senate ...

Sinema ‘can see the deal’ on Ukraine-border as Schumer cuts recess - POLITICO
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Schumer told senators they would not go on recess as planned Thursday. The majority leader said the Senate will vote to advance President Joe Biden’s supplemental request next week, and the hope is that there is at least a framework border agreement to go with it.

Somewhat optimistic about Senate but then there's always the House ...

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But the overtime session is not without controversy in the Senate, as Republicans say that negotiators are nowhere close on a deal. Several complained about the tactical decision to keep trying when it’s not even clear the House will take the legislation up. Others said it’s possible some senators wouldn’t show up next week. Sen. Roger Marshall (R-Kan.) predicted “it’ll take weeks or months to go through it once we get it in writing.”

Meanwhile, the House left on Thursday and some senators are worried a Senate-only deal has no shot in the other chamber. Republicans also attacked Democrats for declining to budge on major reforms for parole, a tool that presidents use to allow immigrants’ entry into the United States.

GrantDawg 12-16-2023 11:35 AM

Do not look for the gay porn that was filmed by Senate staffers in the Judicial committee hearing room. You have been warned.

miami_fan 12-16-2023 02:35 PM

I feel like they knew what they were doing by not releasing that story until Friday night. Not sure what happens now, but I remember our IT folks used to be pissed back in the late 90's when we would tell newcomers to go to whitehouse.com to initiate them to the military. Don't worry it is okay to go there now, it is a betting site.

Thomkal 12-16-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3421242)
Do not look for the gay porn that was filmed by Senate staffers in the Judicial committee hearing room. You have been warned.



Someone say gay porn?

GrantDawg 12-16-2023 03:50 PM

All the gays on my Twitter timeline are having a blast.

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flere-imsaho 12-16-2023 05:01 PM

Hugely surprised that Lindsey Graham wasn't involved.

Thomkal 12-16-2023 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3421264)
All the gays on my Twitter timeline are having a blast.

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Must say the Which Desecration is Worse? with Jan 6 vs a naked guy in the Senate chamber by a republican congressman was not unexpected.

miami_fan 12-20-2023 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3398528)
If the WaPo article is true, won't be long before (if not already) intelligence agencies identify the leaker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ked-documents/


Frontline just did a show about this story. YouTube link below if interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkgkBEuEHwU&t=34s

The Air Force also released an executive summary of their report. Apologies to anyone who is/was in the Air National Guard, but it was the epitome of the worst stereotypes of the Guard.

Qwikshot 12-20-2023 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3421503)
Frontline just did a show about this story. YouTube link below if interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkgkBEuEHwU&t=34s

The Air Force also released an executive summary of their report. Apologies to anyone who is/was in the Air National Guard, but it was the epitome of the worst stereotypes of the Guard.


This guy should get the death penalty.

albionmoonlight 12-23-2023 11:42 AM

Baaed on the lines out today Christmas shopping, the economy is booming.

Michigania 12-26-2023 06:10 PM

Just my very fallible opinion: Joe is very flawed, especially too old, but should stay in the race because he is the best chance to beat Trump. If Joe drops out, who would be the nominee who can beat Trump? Kamala - no way. Newsome - hard to say: too Cali? Warren - no chance. Whitmer - doesn't want it enough?



Joe is teflon to the Trump-MAGA-Fox attacks. Everyone knows exactly who Joe is, for good and bad.


Joe has been a lifelong supporter of Israel, Now, he shows not only that he still is, but also proves that he's still Joe and not beholden to the left. Might that cost him a lot of youth and other lefty votes, and the election? Maybe. But I think that it secures a lot of Indy and Trump-hating-GOP support.


But there are no certain answers.

Edward64 12-27-2023 08:59 PM

Smart move on her part. Hopefully, the voters will see through her mess.

Boebert switches congressional districts, avoiding a Democratic opponent who has far outraised her | AP News
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Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert announced Wednesday she is switching congressional districts, avoiding a likely rematch against a Democrat who has far outraised her and after an embarrassing moment of groping and vaping that shook even loyal supporters.

In a Facebook video Wednesday evening, Boebert announced she would enter the crowded Republican primary in retiring Rep. Ken Buck’s seat in the eastern side of the state, leaving the more competitive 3rd district seat she barely won last year and was in peril of losing next year as even some in her party have soured on her controversial demeanor.


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