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Thomkal 01-25-2024 09:56 AM

Yeah this judge doesn't fool around-hope he lets her sit in jail for a night or two

Lathum 01-25-2024 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3424587)
A young Trump supporter was kicked out of Trump's victory celebration after he posted a picture of himself and Alina Habba at the party.

Earlier that day Habba had told a judge she was sick and needed to take precautions after a covid exposure so the trial was postponed. I can't wait to hear what the judge says about this.


I saw it was a staffer.

Lathum 01-25-2024 11:55 AM

Navarro gets 4 months. I’m sure he’ll be on the bannnon timeline.

Schmidty 01-25-2024 12:05 PM

I was listening to NPR this morning, as I do most mornings, and noticed something. They never seem to refer to Biden’s policies and decisions as Biden’s policies and decisions. They refer to it as the “Biden Administration’s” policies and decisions. Then I was thinking back to Obama and Trump and from what I remember, media of all types didn’t do the same thing nearly as often.

Ghost Econ 01-25-2024 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3424584)
Would love it if she just drops out and doesn't endorse him, but she will likely kiss the ring anyway. between tim scott and her, not sure which has been more humiliated more. it would be great if both were out of SC politics along with graham


And McMaster, and Mace, and Timmons... alas...

Thomkal 01-25-2024 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3424597)
Navarro gets 4 months. I’m sure he’ll be on the bannnon timeline.



defense tried to say he had accepted responsibility for his crime and should get a reduction in time when he has never to date accepted any responsibilty for what he did. And he won't have biden to pardon him. hope they can use this as a guideline when bannon gets sentenced for this.

Thomkal 01-25-2024 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost Econ (Post 3424600)
And McMaster, and Mace, and Timmons... alas...



yeah sadly we have a lot of MAGA lunatics here in SC

Atocep 01-25-2024 08:22 PM

Trump mad Haley won't conceded and is pushing the RNC to just name him the nominee is on brand, funny, and ironic at the same time.

RainMaker 01-25-2024 10:40 PM

It's kind of insane that no reporters are asking Trump or Haley about their connections to Boeing.

Sweed 01-26-2024 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3424703)
It's kind of insane that no reporters are asking Trump or Haley about their connections to Boeing.


Do you think it would make a difference or matter to anyone?

flere-imsaho 01-27-2024 03:09 PM

Outside of a few select outlets, the 4th estate is dead. No one's going to ask questions that would threaten their access.

Atocep 01-28-2024 07:12 PM

After seeing Trump on the campaign trail the past couple weeks I'm 100% with Joe Scarborough that Trump's team is keeping him away from the debate stage to hide his decline. He's lost a few steps from 2015-16.

Confusing Haley with Pelosi is the most obvious case and one that's not easy to explain away like they have with the Obama/Biden mixups. He's definitely slurring his words more often and sometimes struggles to speak. He's not as bad as they make Biden out to be, but he's definitely not the same guy that entered the white house.

Edward64 01-29-2024 05:26 AM

Interesting thought process. I don't agree with his chances but I'd be happy if there was a "real" third party threat to actually win the presidency. But probably won't really be a real threat but more of just hurting Joe more than Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/28/polit...els/index.html
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Sen. Joe Manchin says he “absolutely” can see himself as president.

Privately, the West Virginia Democrat has told people that a Joe Biden health scare or a Donald Trump conviction could give him an opening to run as an independent this year.

In public, during stops in states such as New Hampshire, South Carolina and Georgia, Manchin says he believes there’s a role for him as a national icon in the “fiscally responsible and socially compassionate” middle, comparable with the role Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders plays for the progressive left.

miami_fan 01-29-2024 10:33 AM

The U.S. will never have just a "real" third party. We have seen it is much easier to just take over one of the existing parties with a coalition of single issue voters. If there ever was a decision to move beyond D's and R's, I think it is much more likely that we have four or five "real" parties in addition to those two parties based on those single issues.

albionmoonlight 01-29-2024 10:37 AM

I saw a game-theory explanation of why the US system does not allow a third party to thrive long term. I forget the ins and outs, but the short of it is that it is always more rational to divide into two groups. Even when you have an issue like slavery that temporarily creates a new party, you quickly end up back with two survivors.

albionmoonlight 01-29-2024 10:40 AM

dola: I think that at this point, Haley's best bet is to just keep attacking Trump gloves off style. If she's got the Koch money behind her, she can keep going as long as she likes. And her only chance is if he basically becomes incapacitated, and considering how he's responding to her, there's a better chance of that if she keeps being one of his stressors.

JPhillips 01-29-2024 04:08 PM

She does have the potential of leading the post-MAGA GOP after a Trump loss, but to do that she has to be courageous enough to never endorse and I doubt she'll hold out.

GrantDawg 01-30-2024 03:21 PM

Interesting interview from Penn Jillette on why he is no longer a Libertarian and his view of Trump.
https://www.cracked.com/amp/article_...t-all-out.html

Atocep 01-30-2024 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 3425215)
Interesting interview from Penn Jillette on why he is no longer a Libertarian and his view of Trump.
https://www.cracked.com/amp/article_...t-all-out.html


His observation that Trump has never made or laughed at a joke and tying a sense of humor to empathy is interesting.

GrantDawg 01-30-2024 04:08 PM

Thought so as well. It is believable.

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Lathum 01-31-2024 10:16 AM


Kodos 01-31-2024 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3425006)
After seeing Trump on the campaign trail the past couple weeks I'm 100% with Joe Scarborough that Trump's team is keeping him away from the debate stage to hide his decline. He's lost a few steps from 2015-16.

Confusing Haley with Pelosi is the most obvious case and one that's not easy to explain away like they have with the Obama/Biden mixups. He's definitely slurring his words more often and sometimes struggles to speak. He's not as bad as they make Biden out to be, but he's definitely not the same guy that entered the white house.


At least Trump isn't having Mitch McConnell-level freeze-ups yet.

molson 01-31-2024 10:34 AM

If we get debates in the general election they're going to be bonkers.

GrantDawg 01-31-2024 10:36 AM

I can't stand Cowherd, but this time he is dead on. Unfortunately I don't believe that is his real opinion. I don't think he has real opinions. He just puts out whatver will piss people off the most to drive clicks/gain attention. Cowherd, Skip Bayless, Stephen A Smith, I would rather listen to static than any of those morons.

RainMaker 01-31-2024 12:39 PM


albionmoonlight 01-31-2024 02:23 PM

You should go to predictit, bet on Trump, and double your money: PredictIt

Thomkal 01-31-2024 03:55 PM

i'll see your polls and raise you Rainmaker;


https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/1752800977587929236


in other words too close to tell if there's a trend or not

molson 01-31-2024 04:04 PM

Get your bets in before Taylor Swift makes her endorsement.

Lathum 01-31-2024 04:24 PM

I think as it becomes a more binary choice between the two, people are just going to find the constant crazy of a Trump presidency too exhausting.

GrantDawg 01-31-2024 04:35 PM

It isn't going to be binary. I don't think Robert Kennedy is going to pull 20%+ like he is in some polls, but he is going to hit close to 5%. Maybe a little more. With these margins, it will be significant.

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RainMaker 01-31-2024 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3425303)
i'll see your polls and raise you Rainmaker;

https://twitter.com/SimonWDC/status/1752800977587929236

in other words too close to tell if there's a trend or not


I've seen some stats folks talk about how Trump winning the popular vote and Biden winning the EC is a distinct possibility. Honestly, that would be the funniest outcome.

RainMaker 01-31-2024 04:41 PM

I'm very curious to see where RFK ends up. He's been pretty quiet and running a baffling campaign. But polls have shown he hurts Trump more than Biden.

Lathum 01-31-2024 04:49 PM

Fair point on RFK but I feel like he would get a lot of never trumper types. I think very few Ds or Is vote him.

NobodyHere 01-31-2024 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3425304)
Get your bets in before Taylor Swift makes her endorsement.


If Taylor Swift were to enter the race i bet she would get more than a few electoral votes.

BTW she turns 35 this year.

Kodos 01-31-2024 05:17 PM

Erm...

GrantDawg 01-31-2024 05:46 PM

"Fair point on RFK but I feel like he would get a lot of never trumper types. I think very few Ds or Is vote him."
It seems like the polls agree, but the Trump financial supporters don't. Tim Mellon, who has given $20 million to Trump's Super Pac just gave $15 million to RFK Jr. Super Pac. All of his money is coming from the Right.

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RainMaker 01-31-2024 06:13 PM

Mellon is a moron trust fund baby. A lot of those folks just throw away money on garbage candidates because they are inherently dumb.

Thomkal 01-31-2024 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3425307)
I've seen some stats folks talk about how Trump winning the popular vote and Biden winning the EC is a distinct possibility. Honestly, that would be the funniest outcome.



That would be damn scary for this country if after everything Trump has put it through since leaving office, more people would vote for him.

JonInMiddleGA 01-31-2024 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3425319)
That would be damn scary for this country if after everything Trump has put it through since leaving office, more people would vote for him.


There's actually another path to the "winning the popular vote": his vote total could be lower than 4 yrs ago BUT Biden's could be even more lower.

I'm not predicting that outcome mind you (I'm convinced he has no chance of winning, due to the "Hillary effect"), just tossing as a possible path

GrantDawg 02-01-2024 02:40 PM

This is some cynical but probably good political strategy right here. Adam Schiff is running ads claiming that Steve Garvey, a far-right Republican, is a "leading candidate" in attempt to boost him in the race. He is actually fighting for second with Katie Porter, and Schiff doesn't want to face Porter in a run-off. He would kill Garvey head-to-head. Personally I was disappointed Schiff ran. I was hoping Katie would breeze into the Senate. Heck, I would love to make her and her white-board President and Vice President.

JonInMiddleGA 02-01-2024 03:00 PM

Holy crap, that IS "that" Steve Garvey.

I'd completely forgotten he was in politics now.

GrantDawg 02-01-2024 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3425360)
Holy crap, that IS "that" Steve Garvey.

I'd completely forgotten he was in politics now.

No kidding. I was surprised as well.

JPhillips 02-01-2024 04:27 PM

Sure seems like the GOP is moving to an agreement that states have a right to secede.

RainMaker 02-01-2024 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3425320)
There's actually another path to the "winning the popular vote": his vote total could be lower than 4 yrs ago BUT Biden's could be even more lower.

I'm not predicting that outcome mind you (I'm convinced he has no chance of winning, due to the "Hillary effect"), just tossing as a possible path


This seems to be the analysis I've seen. That both Trump and Biden would receive less votes and voter turnout will be down considerably. Biden would see his margins in blue states like California, New York, and Illinois shrink significantly. It's not enough to put any of those states remotely in play, but even a couple percentage point shift in a high-population state is a lot toward the popular vote tally.

There's also a belief that he'll lose Nevada due to demographic shifts. And Michigan is in deep trouble due to its high Arab population.

GrantDawg 02-02-2024 07:45 AM

January gets another job report way above what was expected, nearly twice as high as projections. Wages are up 4.5% over last year as well. With consumer confidence also getting higher and higher, it is no surprise that polls are trending back toward Biden.

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Lathum 02-02-2024 08:01 AM

I think the GOP has realized going after Hunter is a losing proposition. I haven't heard a peep about him lately. It's all about the border now.

kingfc22 02-02-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3425425)
I think the GOP has realized going after Hunter is a losing proposition. I haven't heard a peep about him lately. It's all about the border now.


Yep. Brown people bad. It’s the standard GOP boogeyman ploy

Thomkal 02-02-2024 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3425425)
I think the GOP has realized going after Hunter is a losing proposition. I haven't heard a peep about him lately. It's all about the border now.



They have so few things to campaign on now that the economy is good, abortion rights are more important to women voters than they expected, and they can't find one real impeachable thing on hunter and joe. So its down to the border and making up stuff about how horrible it is. i even saw recent chatter on putting a wall on our northern border too so those dangerous Canadians can't get in.

molson 02-02-2024 11:20 AM

Gas has been collapsing in price around me. Things seem a lot better at the grocery store too. Those kinds of things are probably the most important factors in this election if they continue.

NobodyHere 02-02-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by molson (Post 3425436)
Gas has been collapsing in price around me. Things seem a lot better at the grocery store too. Those kinds of things are probably the most important factors in this election if they continue.


I wish I could say the same. Gas was around the $2.70 range and now it's back over $3 bucks.


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