To put this in more sensible terms: what is the line and how did it move? I don't really care much about girlie pics or mod decisions but it seems as if something has changed and it'd be nice if we could know about it.

Otherwise, this is just going to escalate further. Someone's going to get banned, more people are going to get ticked and all over something silly and miniscule. It all could be avoided with some transparency and clarity.

SI

You really don't get the point. The problem is with inconsistent modding for no apparent reason. No one is complaining that we can't post naked women.

Anyone have any anti sandy vagina cleanser for Suicane?

of course, the 10 year old who had his lunch money stolen can also stand up the bully to end it. we of course, get no explanation by people on an ego trip

There's never been a defined line (aside from the obvious no pornography rule, which has been around forever). It's been made very clear there never WILL be a defined line (which I actually concur with Ben on that point).

Last couple of days, it's just been entirely random and inexplicable, with things being mysteriously deleted that aren't even close to borderline. And the predictable uproar occurs.

Like I said, if they violate the terms of service, I have no problems with them getting deleted. If they are violating someones internal morals, they can go suck a dick while flying a kite in an electrical storm.

CW, That's definitely an excellent point (about the defined line). I'm not even looking for that, really- do I care what gets girlie pics deleted? No. But if we're going to be more stringent about it, just let people know.

I just want to avoid the inevitable boxing, banning, hurt feelings, and people leaving FOFC that could be easily avoided.

SI

Meh, we haven't had a good boxing in awhile. These things need to happen every so often to get rid of the bad blood. Someone takes a long vacation, nobody knows where, and we deal with the heat.

Is this picture acceptable?



How about this one?

This. It is the thread for cool images, not "hawt chix." And it's not up for debate.

Two suspensions: KSyrup for the kiddie feces post, and Dangarion for continual douchebaggery in posting over and over and over and over.

So, will you be stopping by every other thread to tell us what they’re for too?

WTF? There are many posters who post nothing but shit all day long and they don't get put in the box... :D

Now I can't PM Ksyrup about softball. This place sucks.

Still don't know if they violate the terms of service.

Off Topic threads are to stay on the specific off topic!

So, it's official...This Thread Has Jumped the Shark...Lego Style!

I'm still hoping this thread can return to it's former glory. I look forward to it every day, but the past week has made me a sad panda. :(

I think that event would not have the same meaning if the Fonz, like lego-Fonz, was not wearing pants.

All of this will only make sense if they delete all of the spider pictures.

So you're boxing yourself as well?

My question is, WTF caused all of this BS to happen? This thread has been fine for a long time and then a mod decides to start deleting shit without any explanation like a flaming asshole.

What gives?

mods on a power trip

Weren't many of the things deleted not even pictures of women, but things like, I don't know, landscapes?

Someone needs to take the gigantic sharpened stick out of their ass.

If so, then it's apparent that whatever mod is deleting the pictures, is wielding his/her delete button like how the Greatest American Hero lost the manual on how to properly use his suit.

I thought I remember someone saying something like that earlier.

If true, there's more jackassery in the deleting mod than an entire Moroccan donkey parking lot.

Well I thought Ksyrup at least had a large amount of non-lady pictures deleted, I could have been mistaken.

way easier to delete Posts than pictures i´d wager ...

Look at that, a rational thought.

It's all her fault!!

Well, somebody is being a cowardly little bitch.

I see you are still the one who refuses to take the high road

That is being lazy

Google this:

2 sqrt(-abs(abs(x)-1)*abs(3-abs(x))/((abs(x)-1)*(3-abs(x))))(1+abs(abs(x)-3)/(abs(x)-3))sqrt(1-(x/7)^2)+(5+0.97(abs(x-.5)+abs(x+.5))-3(abs(x-.75)+abs(x+.75)))(1+abs(1-abs(x))/(1-abs(x))),-3sqrt(1-(x/7)^2)sqrt(abs(abs(x)-4)/(abs(x)-4)),abs(x/2)-0.0913722(x^2)-3+sqrt(1-(abs(abs(x)-2)-1)^2),(2.71052+(1.5-.5abs(x))-1.35526sqrt(4-(abs(x)-1)^2))sqrt(abs(abs(x)-1)/(abs(x)-1))+0.9

One day everything is fine and your walking down the street doing what you have always done the next minute someone trips you. You get up and complain about it, and are promptly arrested for causing problems. Thats pretty fucked up.

No, everyday you walk down the street flicking everyone who walks by in the ear, but it's just a little flick so you think it's ok, then one day someone gets tired of it and punches you in the face and you piss yourself and sit on the sidewalk throwing a temper tantrum.

:cool:

Deleting 30 legit pictures to remove 2 questionable ones is not rational.

Have you not been laid lately or something, Suicane? You're one of the last dudes I thought would be acting like a frigid schoolmarm about this ish.

I'm not frigid. I love vaginas and buttholes and things being put into them, all sorts of things. I also have a sense of decorum and respect for other people. I know there aren't a lot of women on here, I know there are a lot less than there used to be. At some point this place became overrun with dick waving and general vulgarity that doesn't offend my senses in the slightest, but does seem like it doesn't take posters who may not wanna be bombarded with that shit into consideration.

But more than all that, I hate when people bitch about shit but don't do a fucking thing about it.

And maybe I just have sand in my vagina.

Next time I'll just piss on you so I can kill two birds with one stone.

You all are reading way more into this than is really there. But I guess that is why tinfoil hats exist.

1. Most of the mods rarely visit this thread. One of the times we do is when a post is reported. We may take action on that post. If we are randomly viewing the thread, and we see something that catches our eyes, we may take action.

2. The Board has long had a general standard of not behaving like an asshat. Pretty easy judgment to make of when an asshat alarm goes off.

3. If this leads to inconsistent modding, oh well. Sometimes you get a speeding ticket for going 8 mph over the limit and sometimes you don't for going 95 in a 55. We're mostly adults here (maybe all), and if you can't behave yourself on your own, you're probably not going to get much sympathy from any of the mods.

4 Finally, we're talking about pictures grabbed from other sites on the internet. Hard for me (speaking personally and not for other mods) to grasp the emotional attachment some seem to have in defending their "right" to post those.

5. What Suicane said.

You know why tinhats exist? Because mods act like asshats, offer no explanation, and generally hide behind Ben.

The asshat alarm went off for everybody on whatever mod deleted a lot of innocent pics but let's not focus on that right?

Well now you're just being rude.

I've grown weary of the mod wars over the years and have tried to sit them out for a long time.

But this quote is silly. So it's not the images that are in question, but rather that the photos do not fit with someone's definition of the thread's theme.

You are saying that the photos you deleted would be OK in a Hot or Not poll, but are not OK in the Cool Images thread. Correct? That is a brand new rule that we have not been made aware.

This makes it sound like one of two things happened: (1) someone got busted for perusing the thread at work or at home and complained to a mod for their troubles; or (2) the person that got busted was a mod and they decided to exorcise the demons by blaming the crowd.

This forum ceased long ago being being a FOF board and became a general interest board. It's merely for fun. There's really no use in complaining because without the arbitrary, whimsical and oversensitive moderation, there's probably no board at all.

Why are you still posting Chubby? If this rubs your ass wrong, then go to another forum.

10-4.

With Suicane here. Perhaps this is unfair and what not, but it sounds like many people in this thread are whining just to whine.

This is not a big deal, get over it.

Top of page fail.

Entire posts were deleted because it was easier than going through one by one and deleting the pics of tits hanging out, but you already know that. Why should they have to work harder to take them out than someone else did to put them in?

One post to ruin it all

More like Natalie Bulbous, amirite?

This. Someone is pissed that he got busted at work for not working.

Or maybe someone pm'd a mod and asked for the pic thread to be divided into two threads so he wouldn't have to sift thru asscracks and nipples when trying to see some cool pics. And maybe a mod said "man, how bad are the pics in there?" And then maybe when he saw them, he deleted them.

It's not always pitchforks and cannonballs.

Survey says!

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Here's how it should have went (you know, the adult thing that keeps getting mentioned):

Mod to Offending Poster via PM - "Hey, got to delete pic X. Had some complaints"
Offending Poster to Mod via PM - "WTF? Which one?"
M - "The cheerleader one"
OP - "What are you talking about? There's nothing wrong with it."
M - "I know, but, there's been some complaints and it would just be best to remove it and keep the peace. You can do it or I can go in there and delete if you want."
OP - "Not cool, but, thanks for the explanation."
M - "If you want, just start another HoN thread about cheerleaders, there's been no complaints about the pics in the HoN threads."
OP - "No problem, I'll do that."

I'm not a mod, so maybe doing something like the example I gave threatens their imaginary power they wield. Again, I don't care if pics get deleted. Just have the spine to explain yourself when called out. You'd be surprised at how quickly things die down with something as simple as an explanation.

Or maybe it went like this,

Poster: I'm a magical fairy and I'm going to sprinkle pixie dust on this thread and magically delete all the naughty pictures.

Mod: What?

I mean, since we're just making up scenarios now and all.

My take: Jesus came, he saw, he got offended.

I don't really give a shit about what was deleted or not, I know ya'll are making the right calls here. But not everybody is going to agree with you all the time. Especially if they don't even know what your intentions were. Were you just being an asshat? Where you just being a douchebag? From the above post, obviously not.

My advice to the mods is that if people ask why, you need to just tell them. Or else you end up with Pitchforks and cannonballs and perceptions of elitism when there obviously isn't any of that. You want to be a mod of a large community, don't just do your job, do it, but enjoy doing it. A little communication with "your community" goes a long way. Just my .02.

The most offensive thing in this thread is when somebody comes in and starts calling everybody fags.

I wonder why HFP left?

So you asked for the thread to be split, eh?
lol


I really, really hope the mods on this board never manage people or parent their children the way they moderate this board.

Why do you feel like the little shrimp on the playground hiding behind the bully who doesn't even like you talking shit about your "friend" beating everyone up if they aren't nice to you.

Everyone in the playground wants to tell you off, and that you are really a dork and not liked by the bully. Over half aren't even scared of the bully. But in the end, it just isnt worth the effort so they roll their eyes and carry on.

No. And I'm not a mod. I'm just imagining possible scenarios that aren't all about being big meanies.



Yeah, I hope so too, since they're two INSANELY DIFFERENT THINGS.

Can we get some Baltimore fans in here to repeat their chant from Sunday Night Football.

This thread needs it!

I really don't understand what you're going for, but OK.

Whining about people whining. Rich.

Had no tuna license, and it was out of season. Had to let it go.

Would have fetched $500,000-ish.

Sir, I don't understand what this has to do with pictures of females or mod decisions

SI

lol, I know right. Trying to start a crazy trend, where people post pictures ! haha

I f'ed you over, and I'm still sorry about that. I apologize.

Now get over it and stop ruining this thread.

I always thought QS was the stodgiest one....turns out it's Ben Lewis.

VOTE QS '12

Did he ever get "found"? I know for a while he dropped off the face of everything internet related and people were worried about him.

I've never even been boxed in 12 or whatever years, but it's going to happen now, isn't it. :(

I just can't believe that grown men get boxed on a message board. It's like getting tossed out of an adult coed softball game. I can't imagine how it feels to be put in the penalty box. (And no I am not daring anyone to try and get me :) )

Why did Blade leave?

Schmidty told me to post it! I swear!

I sincerely have no idea to what you're referring.

I love you Bug.

I'll take the bullet for you.

Long layover in the A-T-L, so I had some time to read through some of the stuff posted here. A few comments...

• Modding of any board this size by volunteers will always be inconsistent. As has been said, part of the reason for that is that some posts simply are never seen by *any* moderator. We have jobs and wives and kids.
• That said, one thing that I don't think has changed since I set up the ability to post pics here nearly a decade ago is the standard that I generally use: if someone is sitting at work and someone else walked by and saw the pic, would it be "questionable?" But again, if I don't see it, that standard may not be applied. Every mod has his own standard, not all posts are seen, and even if they do see them, I'm not asking them to mod by thinking "What would Ben do?" (Oh, and no, I don't know of anyone getting in trouble recently for pics. I did most of the deleting, and I work from home.)
• No, I'm not bothering to go into an explanation every time I delete a post that falls under something I've said repeatedly in the past. (See bullet point two.)
• There's zero chance that I'm going into a multi-PM back and forth with anyone over a silly deleted pic when it falls under an oft-repeated long-time policy. (Again, see bullet point #2.)
• If there's a questionable pic in a long post of pics, I'm just deleting the post. It's much easier.
• I'll dig up the "general guidelines" sticky from a few years ago and re-sticky it.

Oh, and Render is getting a little vacation for the pubic pic.


ADDENDUM TO SECOND BULLET POINT: Yup, that standard has been in place dating back to at least 2003, and probably longer than that.

So bare nude male ass = acceptable at work. Got it.

Honestly, I figure it depends.

If you feel like you totally got hosed unfairly, then you're pissed.

If you feel like you can understand how/why even if you don't agree, then you're sort of mixed with jumbled emotions.

If you feel like it doesn't matter and/or was totally worth it, then you're a specific mix of mildly annoyed and something between amused/satisfied.

I'm no master interpreter, but I think you've missed it. What I read was .... "some posts aren't seen by any moderator".

Which, should signal... a nude male ass (or insert any picture) may or may not be acceptable. It not being deleted is not an indication of anything at all.

I take back my apology.

Why did we let you back?

Unless that wasn't the scenario.

In that case, I'm still sorry.

We need more pics, and less talking.

I'm not helping.

Or maybe I was on a plane, given that I am "in a layover." ;) (I deleted that pic before I made the post, fwiw...)

Sounds good.

I was just trying to point out to Chubby that a picture not being deleted in this thread isn't necessarily an indication of it being "acceptable".

...

ive done that... not boxed though :)

this thread makes FOFC

Stingray photobomb

My God this is perfect.

I think what people are upset about isn't that something was deleted, it's that this thread and the pictures posted in it have been acceptable for literally years, and now all of a sudden they aren't and start getting deleted without warning. I think we all get that not every post can be seen, but you can't tell me that every mod doesn't know there have been pictures in here for years that are NSFW, it's why I don't open this thread at work.

FWIW I am glad the pics are gone, I hate what this thread has turned into. It used to be a must see for me every day and turned into something a 12 year old has wet dreams over. It wasn't worth sifting through anymore.

Hmm, only thing i care about is being so lazy you can't delete the specific pic in a post full of pics.

Everything else, could care less. We'll never have a standard of what exactly constitutes too much skin on a half naked chick, I'm fine with that. But christ, does it happen so often you can't take the extra 20 seconds to delete the offending pic and not them all?