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Narcizo 02-18-2015 01:43 PM
God I'd forgotten how hard work it is trying to follow this on a tablet. Stupid technology.

JAG 02-18-2015 01:49 PM
So it's clear to everyone, the choices today are:

A. Fix Schmidty (only medical folks should pick this)
B. Finish making biodome (probably only Saldana and two other engineering type folks should be here, no more than 3)
C. Vote for one of the following for everyone else's project:
1. Gather supplies (otherwise possible food shortage D1+2)
2. Choose next major project (govt / research / medical)
3. Fix communicator.

Sorry if it's redundant, for folks that aren't able to check the thread a lot, I think it's helpful for a summary.

EagleFan 02-18-2015 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3001484)
So it's clear to everyone, the choices today are:

A. Fix Schmidty (only medical folks should pick this)
B. Finish making biodome (probably only Saldana and two other engineering type folks should be here, no more than 3)
C. Vote for one of the following for everyone else's project:
1. Gather supplies (otherwise possible food shortage D1+2)
2. Choose next major project (govt / research / medical)
3. Fix communicator.

Sorry if it's redundant, for folks that aren't able to check the thread a lot, I think it's helpful for a summary.

C should be vote for the next project (fix communicator, build government, build research center, build medical center)
D would be gather supplies or put all not on A and B into creating whatever it is that you select in C. If you choose supplies, then what you vote for in C will be worked on tomorrow. If you choose to work on that project it will most likely be completed today and tomorrow you can move on to the next options.

Narcizo 02-18-2015 01:52 PM
I'm still not really sure what we're supposed to be voting on or who's supposed to be deciding what stuff. If we try to mend the comm system, what are the negative results? Do we gather less supplies? I've got no overview of the cost-benefits of whatever actions we have.

We have 21 people able to do stuff - 3 to fix the biodome, say 2 to help Schmidty. 16 people left. Do all of those have to commit to collecting supplies or building the next facility?

EagleFan 02-18-2015 01:53 PM
Think of D as a choice that you may get in a Civ game when you stumble upon a pod that can allow you to complete your current research or use it for supplies.

Sharkn20 02-18-2015 01:53 PM
Vote:Gather food

Narcizo 02-18-2015 01:54 PM
Oh yeah I suspect Schmidty might have been punished for not voting. So I suggest everyone votes.

EagleFan 02-18-2015 01:55 PM
You have two definite votes.

What will you work on next (fix communicator, create government, create research facility, create medical facility).

Will you gather supplies or work on what you choose from above?

The other two things depend upon your leader. You either need to decide who will work on completing the biodome and helping Schmidty OR your leader will make that call and you won't have to worry about that decision.

EagleFan 02-18-2015 01:57 PM
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Mars as you know it (rudimentary)...

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 01:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3001481)
God I'd forgotten how hard work it is trying to follow this on a tablet. Stupid technology.

i can't even see this subforum on my phone.

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 01:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3001484)
So it's clear to everyone, the choices today are:

A. Fix Schmidty (only medical folks should pick this)
B. Finish making biodome (probably only Saldana and two other engineering type folks should be here, no more than 3)
C. Vote for one of the following for everyone else's project:
1. Gather supplies (otherwise possible food shortage D1+2)
2. Choose next major project (govt / research / medical)
3. Fix communicator.

Sorry if it's redundant, for folks that aren't able to check the thread a lot, I think it's helpful for a summary.

ah that's right. Those ARE the vote choices.

vote Gather supplies

Narcizo 02-18-2015 02:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3001485)
C should be vote for the next project (fix communicator, build government, build research center, build medical center).

Ah-ha that's much clearer.

So in effect we can see the options as build government, research, medical or communicator.

I'm all in for the rearch center then.

D Vote hurry next project

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:02 PM
in case this is needed:
rebuilding schmidty -> vote autumn, chief rum, ntndeacon
biodome -> vote grover, saldana, raven

The Jackal 02-18-2015 02:06 PM
vote gather supplies

Narcizo 02-18-2015 02:06 PM
Someone not on a tablet might want to get a vote count up and running.

My thoughts are that we have the biodome as a buffer. If we get the science facility up and running we can start researching stuff to get us an edge on the situation. Seems that a medical facility is reactive while research is proactive. Dunno what the government facility will actually do. Obviously I'm biased towards science but I still think its the way forward.

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:17 PM
focus on next building: grover(773), narcizo (812)
Gather supplies/food: sharknado (806), crimsonfox (811), jackal (814)

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:19 PM
As of post 815

Project
Research Center 5 - Narcizo (674), Grover (729), The Jackal (736), Sharkn20 (768), CrimsonFox (770)
Medical Center 2 - timmae (725), Autumn (763)
Government 2 - Thomkal (758), JAG (765)
Fix Communications 0

Effort
Next Build 3 - Autumn (763), Grover (773), Narcizo (812)
Gather Supplies 2 - Sharkn20 (806), CrimsonFox (811), The Jackal (814)
No Vote 3 - timmae (725), Thomkal (758), JAG (765)

Biodome Workers
Grover 1 - Crimsonfox (813)
saldana 1 - CrimsonFox (813)
Raven 1 - CrimsonFox (813)

Medics for Schmidty
Chief Rum (appointed by fontisian)
Autumn (appointed by fontisian)


Yet to Vote
Chief Rum, britrock88, Suicane75, Schmidty, fontisian, ntndeacon, saldana, GoldenEagle, DanGarion, Raven, Danny, Shoveler, Zinto

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:20 PM
Sorry for all the confusion. Hopefully that will ease as the game continues.

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:21 PM
oh goody, EF is letting us be lazy! :) thanks bud

JAG 02-18-2015 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3001490)
You have two definite votes.

What will you work on next (fix communicator, create government, create research facility, create medical facility).

Will you gather supplies or work on what you choose from above?

The other two things depend upon your leader. You either need to decide who will work on completing the biodome and helping Schmidty OR your leader will make that call and you won't have to worry about that decision.

Thanks EF.

Biodome - Saldana, Grover, Jackal
Schmidty - Autumn, Chief Rum, ntndeacon

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:22 PM
you got one thing wrong. i said raven for biodome, not ntndeacon. i voted for deacon to work on the six million dollar schmidty

JAG 02-18-2015 02:24 PM
CF, ntndeacon is a medical person, don't think he should be on the biodome. I think it's going to be engineering needed there.

JAG 02-18-2015 02:25 PM
Oh, well never mind.

JAG 02-18-2015 02:25 PM
Effort - next build
Create Government

Grover 02-18-2015 02:29 PM
Biodome: Grover, saldana, Danny

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3001510)
you got one thing wrong. i said raven for biodome, not ntndeacon. i voted for deacon to work on the six million dollar schmidty

It says Raven... :D

saldana 02-18-2015 02:30 PM
EF, can we volunteer for a job...if i say i want to work on the biodome, does it really need to be voted on?

Narcizo 02-18-2015 02:32 PM
Biodome - Saldana, Grover, Jackal
Schmidty - Autumn, Chief Rum

I think 2 is enough for Schmidty and I doubt its not going to help if he doesn't show up anyway. A meteorite will probably fall on his head.

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:33 PM
As of post 828

Project
Research Center 5 - Narcizo (674), Grover (729), The Jackal (736), Sharkn20 (768), CrimsonFox (770)
Medical Center 2 - timmae (725), Autumn (763)
Government 2 - Thomkal (758), JAG (765)
Fix Communications 0

Effort
Next Build 4 - Autumn (763), Grover (773), Narcizo (812), JAG (824)
Gather Supplies 2 - Sharkn20 (806), CrimsonFox (811), The Jackal (814)
No Vote 3 - timmae (725), Thomkal (758)

Biodome Workers
Grover 4 - Crimsonfox (813), JAG (820), Grover (825), Narcizo (828)
saldana 4 - CrimsonFox (813), JAG (820), Grover (825), Narcizo (828)
The Jackal 2 - JAG (820), Narcizo (828)
Raven 1 - CrimsonFox (813)
Danny 1 - Grover (825)

Medics for Schmidty
Chief Rum (appointed by fontisian)
Autumn (appointed by fontisian)


Yet to Vote
Chief Rum, britrock88, Suicane75, Schmidty, fontisian, ntndeacon, saldana, GoldenEagle, DanGarion, Raven, Danny, Shoveler, Zinto

JAG 02-18-2015 02:33 PM
Fixed version:

You must vote for all of the following (though font, at some unknown disadvantage, can do the first two if needed):

A. Choose who, if anyone, tries to heal Schmidty.Schmidty (preferably medical folks). No limit but more may hinder our efforts elsewhere.

B. Choose three players to finish making the biodome (probably engineerimg types preferred)

C. Vote to put effort towards one of the following for everyone else's project:
1. Gather Supplies
2. Other project.

D. If we vote for another project, what project should be worked on?
1. Create next major project (govt / research / medical)
2. Fix communicator.

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saldana (Post 3001518)
EF, can we volunteer for a job...if i say i want to work on the biodome, does it really need to be voted on?

Either voted, or you can volunteer and fontisian can appoint you. That way someone doesn't volunteer that everyone thinks shouldn't be working on it.

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3001521)
As of post 826

Project
Research Center 5 - Narcizo (674), Grover (729), The Jackal (736), Sharkn20 (768), CrimsonFox (770)
Medical Center 2 - timmae (725), Autumn (763)
Government 2 - Thomkal (758), JAG (765)
Fix Communications 0

Effort
Next Build 4 - Autumn (763), Grover (773), Narcizo (812), JAG (824)
Gather Supplies 2 - Sharkn20 (806), CrimsonFox (811), The Jackal (814)
No Vote 3 - timmae (725), Thomkal (758)

Biodome Workers
Grover 3 - Crimsonfox (813), JAG (820), Grover (825)
saldana 3 - CrimsonFox (813), JAG (820), saldana (825)
Raven 1 - CrimsonFox (813)
The Jackal 1 - JAG (820)
Danny 1 - Grover (825)

Medics for Schmidty
Chief Rum (appointed by fontisian)
Autumn (appointed by fontisian)


Yet to Vote
Chief Rum, britrock88, Suicane75, Schmidty, fontisian, ntndeacon, saldana, GoldenEagle, DanGarion, Raven, Danny, Shoveler, Zinto

the boldfaced name should be grover.

JAG 02-18-2015 02:35 PM
I guess unless font withdraws her appointment (if possible), the doctors for Schmidty vote does not matter.

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3001522)
Fixed version:

D. If we vote for another project, what project should be worked on?
1. Create next major project (govt / research / medical)
2. Fix communicator.

it's more
D.
1. gov
2. research
3. medical
4. comminicator

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3001525)
I guess unless font withdraws her appointment (if possible), the doctors for Schmidty vote does not matter.

Correct. If she does that I will be scrambling to count those votes up. :)

EagleFan 02-18-2015 02:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonFox (Post 3001527)
it's more
D.
1. gov
2. research
3. medical
4. comminicator

You just have your red pen out today don't you? ;)

CrimsonFox 02-18-2015 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 3001529)
You just have your red pen out today don't you? ;)

I'm running for Head of Bureau of Bureaucracy :)

britrock88 02-18-2015 02:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grover (Post 3001361)
How do we know this wasn't an offer than fontisian got to cement her status as leader and knock out the communications? I don't think DG would openly complain when it's clear he noticed one of the votes for him didn't count.

That's too obvious to me.

Your and Shoveler's points are well-taken. It stuck out that this situation could have arisen from a proposal similar to mine, but it certainly doesn't have to have been that way.

britrock88 02-18-2015 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinto (Post 3001386)
Hey Brit were you able to pick who lost a vote or was it set by EF?

I would have lost my own voting strength for the Sheriff position (the one I had aspirations for).

britrock88 02-18-2015 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3001392)
Thank you for reporting this britrock, makes me feel safer about you. I would like to invite yourself, Shoveler, and JAG to become part of the security staff. Not an official game title or anything, just people that I can count on to help keep us safe. Anyone else with law enforcemen/military skills are welcome to "apply" as well.

I wonder britrock if you have any leads on who our troublemaker might be? And if any of you three have any items and/or abilities that I should know about? Alas I do not. Finally I have not gained any ability or order I can give you via my sheriff role (yet), so you might check with the GM to see if there's anything you can do along those lines.

No leads, no special items or abilities. Sigh. But I'd be happy to help out inasmuch as you need people to do so.

britrock88 02-18-2015 02:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narcizo (Post 3001489)
Oh yeah I suspect Schmidty might have been punished for not voting. So I suggest everyone votes.

Maybe Danny, too? Just going by memory.

britrock88 02-18-2015 02:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG (Post 3001522)
Fixed version:

You must vote for all of the following (though font, at some unknown disadvantage, can do the first two if needed):

A. Choose who, if anyone, tries to heal Schmidty.Schmidty (preferably medical folks). No limit but more may hinder our efforts elsewhere.

B. Choose three players to finish making the biodome (probably engineerimg types preferred)

C. Vote to put effort towards one of the following for everyone else's project:
1. Gather Supplies
2. Other project.

D. If we vote for another project, what project should be worked on?
1. Create next major project (govt / research / medical)
2. Fix communicator.

Project: Government
Effort: Gather Supplies
Biodome Workers: Grover, saldana, Raven

Grover 02-18-2015 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 3001537)
Maybe Danny, too? Just going by memory.

Danny voted at 9:58 PM

Autumn 02-18-2015 03:08 PM
Heal Schmidty
Vote for Focus on Next Project
Vote Communications for Next Project

fontisian 02-18-2015 03:11 PM
EagleFan: I haven't appointed anyone to anything yet?

saldana 02-18-2015 03:11 PM
volunteer to build biodome
vote build research center
vote gather supplies

timmae 02-18-2015 03:14 PM
project
Unvote Medical Center
Vote Research Facility

Effort
Next Build

The Jackal 02-18-2015 03:17 PM
biodome: jackal, saldana, grover

Raven 02-18-2015 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by timmae (Post 3001418)
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GOOD) city planner
Danny ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BAD), SOCIAL (BAD)

I'd suggest we pick our 3 BioDome workers from this group.
I think we've agreed that the skills most likely required would be Engineering and Physical strength.
If we want to go heavy on Engineering (Danny & Jackal?) but both come at the cost of physical strength.
If we want to go heavy on Strength (bitrock & JAG?), but comes at the cost of Engineering.

JAG 02-18-2015 03:24 PM
Just throwing this out there, is it overkill to use all our best engineers on the project that's almost done? If we're working on another project, do we need more engineering muscle there?


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