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nfg22 07-08-2009 11:58 AM
Seriously Clap...from what I know your an experienced player. Your replies have been very emotional and seem to have only pushed more suspicionyour way. If you want to disgree with DT that is fine but to make him out to be part of the conspiracy is ludacris. I know you never said that out right but you have done nothing but poke at him. Instead of saying why he is wrong, tell us why you are right. Give us a reason to follow you.

kingfc22 07-08-2009 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2067039)
I think I need to find a way to reformat this that is easier for me to follow, but this is potentially valuable.

We had three decent runs on people yesterday: ntn, Purdue and KWhit. What interests me are those who jumped on more than one of those. Especially anyone who jumped on all three.

For instance, BrianD was the third vote on The Jackal. He then jumped to be the third vote on Purdue Brad, and finally jumped again to the KWhit train.

It was also interesting to see that double run on ntn, up to 9 votes then down to five and back up to 8. If anything that makes me feel better about him, for it's hard to imagine wolves letting two runs go on a fellow baddie. (with the caveat that day 1 anything is possible).

Thanks for putting that together, king.

Like I mentioned, I thought somebody looked suspicious and now that path has brought it up I will go and throw it out there that BrianD looks the worst to me.

Path - I can work on re-formatting it. What would you like me to adjust.

claphamsa 07-08-2009 12:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2067390)
Seriously Clap...from what I know your an experienced player. Your replies have been very emotional and seem to have only pushed more suspicionyour way. If you want to disgree with DT that is fine but to make him out to be part of the conspiracy is ludacris. I know you never said that out right but you have done nothing but poke at him. Instead of saying why he is wrong, tell us why you are right. Give us a reason to follow you.
im not questioning DT and im not saying hes part of the conspiracy! im saying he needs to not present his opinions in a way that will lead to silly runaways (last night) since we dont learn anything from that.

BrianD 07-08-2009 12:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2067392)
Like I mentioned, I thought somebody looked suspicious and now that path has brought it up I will go and throw it out there that BrianD looks the worst to me.

Path - I can work on re-formatting it. What would you like me to adjust.

I've already explained my votes, but you can suspect me if you'd like.

Passacaglia 07-08-2009 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2067220)
Fair enough, I guess. Clap, do you have a problem with revealing your role?

clap, not sure if you missed this question from earlier this morning (post 774 I think)

claphamsa 07-08-2009 12:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2067396)
clap, not sure if you missed this question from earlier this morning (post 774 I think)
if i thought there was a reason i wouldn't. its one of those roles that could be useful... but the stars have to align.

so no pass you dont need to go out of our way to night kill me.

BrianD 07-08-2009 12:13 PM
I think Clap wins the paranoid award. :)

nfg22 07-08-2009 12:15 PM
Or the wolf award??

JAG 07-08-2009 12:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2067388)
As a note: I am currently in contact with DT, but he's having problems accessing the site for unknown reasons.

Quite the nefarious Conspirator ability!

*goes back to his grave*

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:18 PM
hmmph - one ipconfig /renew and i'm back apparently. albeit running slowly.

let me catch up...i see i have a couple PM's too.

path12 07-08-2009 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 2067392)
Like I mentioned, I thought somebody looked suspicious and now that path has brought it up I will go and throw it out there that BrianD looks the worst to me.

Path - I can work on re-formatting it. What would you like me to adjust.

I guess what I'm looking for is what the overall picture looked like at a given time.

For example, path votes ntn (4). Jackal & ntn 4, clap 3, pass 2, brian 1. (no offense anyone!)

For me, I get a better picture that way of who might be being protected/tossed under the bus.

If you can do that it would be awesome. I'm going to try for something like that if I can get my boss off my ass for an hour or so.

kingfc22 07-08-2009 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 2067394)
I've already explained my votes, but you can suspect me if you'd like.

Just caught up with the rest of the thread now. I like your post about how nobody defended those targeted yesterday.

For now, you are back down off of my suspicion list.

kingfc22 07-08-2009 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2067405)
I guess what I'm looking for is what the overall picture looked like at a given time.

For example, path votes ntn (4). Jackal & ntn 4, clap 3, pass 2, brian 1. (no offense anyone!)

For me, I get a better picture that way of who might be being protected/tossed under the bus.

If you can do that it would be awesome. I'm going to try for something like that if I can get my boss off my ass for an hour or so.

That should be easy enough.

path12 07-08-2009 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2067400)
Or the wolf award??

Not as much in my mind, not with coming out so directly. Wouldn't mind him being scanned at some point, but for now I'm looking in other directions.

Poli 07-08-2009 12:24 PM
Beep, beep, beep...

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2067278)
Especially given he's the only one who doesn't have a chance with Kim Bauer.

damnit - i don't??? :rant:

BrianD 07-08-2009 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2067400)
Or the wolf award??

I don't know...he is jumping on DT awfully hard. Seems like bad wolf behavior if he really is one. I'm not saying he isn't, but he is just painting such a big target on his back.

nfg22 07-08-2009 12:28 PM
DT. I just recieved a PM from someone...I assume you know about it. Should I comply or not?

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:29 PM
i've had my suspiscions of brian this morning based on the voting from yesterday somewhat, but his statements in-thread have done a lot to mitigate that.

and i think i've been pretty clear about wanting to encourage villager discussion and putting good disclaimers on everything i've said.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:31 PM
let's see if i can do some responding to specific points in PM in-thread -- does anybody think that's a bad idea, if i keep the answers very vague like "re: your first point - no" or "re: line #8 - yes" ?

Does anybody see a way that that might be a negative?

claphamsa 07-08-2009 12:33 PM
i personally like it, it will give us an idea of whats going on, withotu names....

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2067416)
DT. I just recieved a PM from someone...I assume you know about it. Should I comply or not?

I have no knowledge of this PM you received as of yet.

path12 07-08-2009 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2067413)
damnit - i don't??? :rant:

She was just OK.

Oops. Sorry, Jack.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:35 PM
are the mods okay with that? it's not circumventing the spirit of the game?

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2067429)
She was just OK.

Oops. Sorry, Jack.

did u hit it from behind and wear a hockey helmet? i hear she likes that :p

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:40 PM
FYI - for those who want some idea of what's going on - i've received since the game started, 40 PM's

Barkeep49 07-08-2009 12:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2067435)
FYI - for those who want some idea of what's going on - i've received since the game started, 40 PM's
Amateur.

hoopsguy 07-08-2009 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2067430)
are the mods okay with that? it's not circumventing the spirit of the game?

That is acceptable, even if it might not make for the most interesting reading for everyone without context :p

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 2067444)
Amateur.

yeah yeah. i can only imagine what your inbox is like

path12 07-08-2009 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2067433)
did u hit it from behind and wear a hockey helmet? i hear she likes that :p

It was a goalie mask rather than a helmet, but that's just how I roll.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2067448)
It was a goalie mask rather than a helmet, but that's just how I roll.

:eek:

HELLZ YEAH!!!!! :D

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 12:53 PM
okay - not sure if everyone saves their sent PM's like i do so i will address my answers to specific people

ntndeacon 07-08-2009 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2067268)
Anyway, that's a really surprising night result. It seems they do get a "night kill", I'm not sure how the timing worked out with our lynch vote, maybe we can figure that out.

What do we make of two kills? Was one a wolf kill and one a villager/neutral kill? I wouldn't be surprised to know there was a villager who can make a kill. Maybe they knew JAG's role and assumed he was bad since he was a foreigner?

Well since the brutal villager was taken out, isn't it likely that JAG himself took out Tyrith?

Autumn 07-08-2009 12:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2067448)
It was a goalie mask rather than a helmet, but that's just how I roll.

Take it to the Penthouse Forum, please. ;-)

path12 07-08-2009 12:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2067455)
Well since the brutal villager was taken out, isn't it likely that JAG himself took out Tyrith?

If I read it right the brutal only applied in case of a lynch.

path12 07-08-2009 12:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 2067456)
Take it to the Penthouse Forum, please. ;-)

Dear Sirs,

I never believed the letters in your magazine, but I had an experience recently that I just have to share.......

ntndeacon 07-08-2009 01:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2067459)
If I read it right the brutal only applied in case of a lynch.

oops
Never Mind!

BrianD 07-08-2009 01:02 PM
Quote:
UNVOTE PB 7 – BrianD (579)
KWhit 3 – BrianD (579)
UNVOTE PB 6 – autumn (581)
KWhit 4 – autumn (581)
KWhit 5 – Daddy Torgo (596)
UNVOTE PB 5 – Telle (598)
KWhit 6 – Telle (598)
UNVOTE PB 4 - ISiddiqui (599)
KWhit 7 – Isiddiqui (599)
KWhit 8 – Alan (600)
UNVOTE ntn 7 – PB (602)
KWhit 9 – PB (602)

Grasping at straws here, but the list above is the tail-end of the voting run yesterday. Does anybody think it strange that for everyone that ran on KWhit, almost all of the movers moved off of PB and the only person to move off of ntn was PB himself? Shouldn't we expect people from all over to move to the DT-endorsed KWhit vote? Is there something we should be looking at here?

nfg22 07-08-2009 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2067425)
I have no knowledge of this PM you received as of yet.

I have one more hour till I can send you a PM about it. I will wait till then or maybe later so I can send multiple replies.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 01:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2067463)
I have one more hour till I can send you a PM about it. I will wait till then or maybe later so I can send multiple replies.


aaaah okay

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 01:14 PM
PM's from after-lynch last night & today:

@henry: *waves*
@Autumn: yes *nods*
@CR: *waves*
@Tyrith: *sad face*
@BrianD: interesting...thinking
@nfg: interesting
@Alan: re: line 11 - ?, - (1.5 days) , +
@path: perhaps
@EF: re: line 7 - ?, +, +
@ISiddiqui: *waves* time for coffee? Interesting. Will think on that.

ISiddiqui 07-08-2009 01:19 PM
It's almost time for coffee ;).

Passacaglia 07-08-2009 01:21 PM
DT, I can't believe you told the wolves all that stuff. Clap was right, you suck!!

Autumn 07-08-2009 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianD (Post 2067462)
Grasping at straws here, but the list above is the tail-end of the voting run yesterday. Does anybody think it strange that for everyone that ran on KWhit, almost all of the movers moved off of PB and the only person to move off of ntn was PB himself? Shouldn't we expect people from all over to move to the DT-endorsed KWhit vote? Is there something we should be looking at here?

That is odd. I'm guessing it's an anomaly though as I can't seehow it would make sense otherwise. It suggests that people were glad to either have NTN or Kwhit be the lynch, but not PB. But if so why would they have all voted PB in the first place, instead of piling on NTN or going elsewhere?

I would guess it just had to do with the NTN voters having been earlier in the day and the PB voters the ones who were on later. That was my impression at least, that PB gained momentum as NTN seemed a runaway.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2067479)
DT, I can't believe you told the wolves all that stuff. Clap was right, you suck!!

:lol:

In all seriousness though - I tried very hard to be very nondescript in those responses.

If I knew that everyone was saving copies of their outgoing messages I would not even have referred to the senders at all but simply to the times.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 01:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 2067477)
It's almost time for coffee ;).

yes indeed. t-minus 40 minutes and counting!

ISiddiqui 07-08-2009 01:27 PM
I do love that everyone on my Twitter/Facebook friends list (which includes a bevy of FOFC posters) know my coffee schedule by heart :D. I've trained y'all well ;).

Autumn 07-08-2009 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2067472)
PM's from after-lynch last night & today:

@henry: *waves*
@Autumn: yes *nods*
@CR: *waves*
@Tyrith: *sad face*
@BrianD: interesting...thinking
@nfg: interesting
@Alan: re: line 11 - ?, - (1.5 days) , +
@path: perhaps
@EF: re: line 7 - ?, +, +
@ISiddiqui: *waves* time for coffee? Interesting. Will think on that.

This is cracking me up.

DaddyTorgo 07-08-2009 01:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ISiddiqui (Post 2067491)
I do love that everyone on my Twitter/Facebook friends list (which includes a bevy of FOFC posters) know my coffee schedule by heart :D. I've trained y'all well ;).


lol - it helps that it's the same as mine

ntndeacon 07-08-2009 01:34 PM
coffee is over rated


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