Danny?

Lathum - Yes, it's in the rules.

from rules

ok, thanks

It doesn't look like the sympathizer gets converted if found by the desperate for attention, or if he finds any of the needies.

So that leads me to believe we lucked out with a BG block.

Read my vote like this if you want - I stand by my reasoning for the vote. I'm not saying that I have any particular suspicions about PB (because I don't at this point in the game), just that of the options available at the time (as I saw them), I thought that this was the best use of my vote.

Or it's something activated by an unlisted role, in which case.. at least we didn't lose anyone.

why such a quick vote, lathum?

I saw some stuff in his play yesterday that stuck out to me

Little late, you think?

I think I may see what is going on here. I'm going to wait until morning to atleast see if anyone comes out claiming anything. My theories at the moment:

Lathum is the seer and viewed PB last night

Lathum and PB were involved in the night kill some way some how. Possibly Lathum saw PB, or Lathum is a wolf and knows PB saw him.

There is some unlisted role mechanic at work here

Lathum is just being Lathum

I'm not willing to jump onboard yet like DT, I think I will wait to see what happens in the morning.

Yeah, I'm certainly not casting any votes tonight.

Not a huge fan of the hit and run vote from DT, either. Not like you don't have time to explain it..

Or we've a case of known unknowns by certain players. And I think I'm going to bed now.

Could have swore I said I wouldn't play in another Abe game.


;)

well its possible there is another roll out there liek the talker....

I'm already down 0-2 in the voting. I'm pretty sure I laid everything out I possibly could last night so at this point my only defense is I'm good. I'll just go back into my corner and sit quietly.

I'll throw out conversion as an equally likely possibility as BG block.

I guess not being able to vote is not a completely bad thing. My voting has sucked these last three games anyway.

On the plus side I guess we either got a BG block or some other game mechanic came into play.

I don't think we should immediately say the BG should not reveal. Unless the BG had a hunch, or picked up on something, the block was probably a self protect. If that is the case and he (or she) saw the attacker there should definitely be a reveal as the wolves would most likely already know it. If the BG is certain that he (or she) wasn't seen or didn't identify the attacker then there is no reason to reveal.

I've got a few games under my belt with Lathum. I don't think he auto-votes someone with no explanation to start Day 2 without a very good reason.

I'll move it if given a very compelling reason, but none have emerged so far.

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

maybe hes the one who can feel bad feelings? anf he cant reveal?

vote pb

Changed your line by a word but I will bet you a beer that he certainly did just that.

ok, i see no roll like that, apparently ive been in polis qrack

if you are a villager... then lathum gets axed tommroow, unless he explians a ton :)

Wow, 0-4. Just know that I really don't like being the center of attention, I'm kind of quiet. I'll go back to sweeping, take no notice of me.

EVERY single voter, I want you to guarantee me this. WHEN I am revealed as good, Lathum goes next. I have no problem with being a sacrifice for the village but that vote is out and out odd, as is DT's. So if you guys guarantee me that, I don't care if you lynch me 20-0, as that is how it looks. DON'T GET SPUN after I come up good.

EF, thanks for rooting for my Penguins last night.

:rant:

:D

Gotta head to a meeting and work.

The only thing I can say with 100 percent certainty is that I will not be voting for PB today. ;)

well if he does not KNOW you are good, im sure hell say something long befre 8 pm!

Something is not sitting right with me about this morning. I can't quite put my finger on it. I know no one likes my gut feelings, but the crazy thought in my head right now is Lathum is just being Lathum and voting on his gut without much other reason. Others seem to be trying to build this up into a PB vs Lathum thing when I'm not sure that was what he was hinting at based on his short post after his vote.

I'm wondering if the end result of this will be a PB death followed by a Lathum death where both turned up good. Meaning three days lost and very little vote record from days 2 and 3 (due to the current run on PB and what I am guessing would be a run on Lathum tomorrow).

I honestly don't see any reason for a wolf to singularly out himself on day 2 by putting a he or me type vote out there, so only really two options seem legit to me: 1) PB is indeed bad, which would suprise me since I'm not usually that off on my read of people and based on his reactions, I just don't get that feeling.. 2) PB is good, and the wolves are more than happy letting Lathum put his neck out there.

I'm with Alan. To me Lathum can make the move he does as a vanilla villager. Of course in this game it might be something else.

Danny: Might want to update the thread title.

Done

ALan and BK... If its just a gut call im sure he will say, this was just a gut call what are you all doing....

i was on my way to bed actually. turned in a lil early last night.

and my line of thinking was that lathum wouldn't drop a quick vote like that without reason, and if he does he should know that we'll come after him next, so it'd be a suicidal wolf-move.

wondering if we'll hear more from him today

Wondering if well here from him? Lathum is one of those talk to hear his own voice types :D

Was this a question or statement? Just trying to see if you are looking for a response :)

Morning all

He's asleep. He's a west coaster.

wow.. I just reread that.. and I have no idea what I was trying to say :P

im sure he will explain when he wakes up :)

I was making fun of DT :P I know he lives in seattle

From what I understand of this game, there is no such thing in this one. Now there may be roles that are a little less special than others, but I don't think Danny has any plain-jane villagers with no conditions, options, etc.

Also, based on the rules of the game Lathum may not be able to fully explain his vote if it is role-based. Which could be a convenient excuse for a wolf, but a very legitimate reason for a villager to not provide more details on his vote.

Like I said earlier, if something compelling comes up I'll change my vote. But nothing about Day 2 seems all that suspect to me at this point.

I don't like PB's answer today(I honestly expected them to point the finger at each other. I was thinking there was a BG block on the kill last night and those two saw each other at the scene). Makes me feel like the options have narrowed down to two at this point. Either Lathum is the seer or Lathum is just going on a gut reaction. I don't actually expect Lathum to reveal if he is indeed the seer so I will go ahead and:

Vote PB

I understand not being able to explain votes and such, but those votes came so quick before the morning even really started...they just seem kinda fishy...

YAY, Lathum is here.

LOL...awesome.