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dervack 06-19-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Izulde

I got the XBox version because on the XBox website, they specifically say on there that their plan is to eventually have *all* XB games be BC on the 360.


FYI, they have been saying that for a while now, and have very little EA Sports games BC.

Northwood_DK 06-19-2006 10:45 AM

Bill Cowher talk to Mike and Mike about the game this morning. EA must have paid a few dollars to get ESPN run that infomercial.

spleen1015 06-19-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Northwood_DK
Bill Cowher talk to Mike and Mike about the game this morning. EA must have paid a few dollars to get ESPN run that infomercial.



ESPN is part of the game.

Surtt 06-19-2006 10:47 AM

Has anyone preordered from EA before?
Do they ship it early, so it arrives on the release day?
Or do they wait until release day to ship it?

CraigSca 06-19-2006 11:00 AM

In the past I've seen that people that pre-order from the site directly are usually the last to receive it. YMMV.

Izulde 06-19-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dervack
FYI, they have been saying that for a while now, and have very little EA Sports games BC.


Fair enough, but you'd think with this particular version they'd eventually make it BC since there's no 360 incarnation of it.

Eaglesfan27 06-19-2006 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JimboJ
Sorry if this has been answered already... but how much of the coaches job can be deligated to assistants/handled by the CPU. I am interested in drafting, signing free agents, designing plays, and calling the plays in the game. Can I let the CPU handle all the other stuff (practices, motivational speeches, etc)?


You can sim through practices and therefore have the assistant coaches handle it, I'm 99% sure. Of course, they might not be as effective as you would be at running practice. As far as the motivational speeches, they are given during the game, and I think you have to do them or they don't get done.

Pumpy Tudors 06-19-2006 11:51 AM

The guys at GameStop were stunned when I asked to preorder the PC version of this game. It was like they'd never heard of preordering a PC game before. :) Anyway, I don't know whether to expect it on Tuesday or Wednesday, but I'm looking forward to bringing the Broncos to glory! Ron Dayne will have his day!!!

Pumpy Tudors 06-19-2006 11:58 AM

Dola

About backwards compatibility, who's actually responsible for creating the BC software emulator for each game? Is it Microsoft or the game's developer?

spleen1015 06-19-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors
Dola

About backwards compatibility, who's actually responsible for creating the BC software emulator for each game? Is it Microsoft or the game's developer?


My understanding is that Microsoft is and they have to have permission from the developer in order to do it.

jbmagic 06-19-2006 12:14 PM

My Best Buy ad that came out on Sundays shows this game will be in on Wednesday at 5:00PM.


Usually Fry's has a special on the first week of a game release.

And Best Buy usually has a sale on there EA sports release like a week or 2 after the game comes out.

Passacaglia 06-19-2006 12:49 PM

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Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 7 (4 members and 3 guests)
Passacaglia, bgrubby9191, JimboJ, Joe Stallings

Hey Joe....where you goin', with that gun in your hand?

Terps 06-19-2006 01:49 PM

I'm disappointed that you can only play 5 minute quarters.

jbmagic 06-19-2006 02:15 PM

Is no one concern how the sim stats will be like?

Especially if you coach out the games and you want to compare your stats with the sim stats.

spleen1015 06-19-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Terps
I'm disappointed that you can only play 5 minute quarters.


Has anyone confirmed that the quarters will be 5 minutes in the final version?

KWhit 06-19-2006 03:05 PM

There is so much that concerns me about this game. I have very low expectations of it and I'm amazed that so many people are preordering it.

dervack 06-19-2006 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde
Fair enough, but you'd think with this particular version they'd eventually make it BC since there's no 360 incarnation of it.

Hmm, what about MVP College Baseball or Arena Football?

Emiliano 06-19-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Terps
I'm disappointed that you can only play 5 minute quarters.

Me too, very disappointed. In fact, if this is true, it's a HUGE game-killer to me. I am still very interested in how this game plays out, but I won't pre-order anymore. I'll wait for some impressions from you guys, and then make my decision.

Greyroofoo 06-19-2006 03:51 PM

Gah! Worst interface ever

Eaglesfan27 06-19-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Terps
I'm disappointed that you can only play 5 minute quarters.


Where has it been confirmed that you can only play 5 minute quarters? I've scoured websites and haven't seen that confirmed anywhere.

spleen1015 06-19-2006 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27
Where has it been confirmed that you can only play 5 minute quarters? I've scoured websites and haven't seen that confirmed anywhere.


I haven't been able to find it either.

I hope that one of you guys that have pre-ordered confirms this ASAP, so that I can go get it ASAP. :)

Eaglesfan27 06-19-2006 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015
I haven't been able to find it either.

I hope that one of you guys that have pre-ordered confirms this ASAP, so that I can go get it ASAP. :)


I hope to be commenting on this issue tomorrow, assuming my copy arrives at the store ok. Since I'm on vacation, I'm planning on a marathon session with plenty of impressions tomorrow.

Vince 06-19-2006 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic
Is no one concern how the sim stats will be like?

Especially if you coach out the games and you want to compare your stats with the sim stats.


I think I'm more concerned with the AI.

No, seriously. It sounds like running the practices yourself is the best idea to get the most out of your players, but I see it as something akin to time management in TCY -- once you figure it out, it's just a routine exercise. Seems to me like as players, we'll probably be able to 'ace' it after a while, while the AI won't, because of 'realism.' So our options will be to A) have the coaches handle it, not get as much as possible out of our team, but not gain an edge on the computer AI, or B) Do it ourselves and get a leg up on the AI for doing the best we can.

Kuroth 06-19-2006 04:26 PM

OMG Someone has just played it..
 
This does not sound good..

Go here

http://forums.ea.com/mboards/thread....79843&tstart=0

DaddyTorgo 06-19-2006 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuroth


yeahhh...that's making me go "whoa i'm waiting until i can see if the 5 minute quarters work or there's a patch/mod"

too bad EA, almost had me there

cartman 06-19-2006 04:50 PM

Jeebus we are a bunch of whiny biatches. First we have a 100 page thread about a football game that's too customizable, and now we are slamming another game for not being customizable enough. ;)

That being said, I haven't been inspired to write a parody song about NFL Head Coach. (yet :D )

CraigSca 06-19-2006 04:58 PM

Wow. Completely cheezy.

Buccaneer 06-19-2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Greyroofoo
Gah! Worst interface ever


Someone says that of every single game that has ever been released.

Riggins44 06-19-2006 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuroth


I think expectations are WAY too high. Madden is not realistic statistically and this game is based on the Madden engine. All we can realistically hope for is a fun game that rewards you for your football savy... or something.

Surtt 06-19-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit
There is so much that concerns me about this game. I have very low expectations of it and I'm amazed that so many people are preordering it.



I am disappointed in myself too,
It was a moment of weakness.

I read a few pages back,that, there will be no draft busts.
Right there it tells me this game is not meant for us but the madden crowd.

Logan 06-19-2006 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuroth


I only read the first page of that thread (I think it's at 10 pages as of when I'm reading it), so maybe someone brought this up later...but that person's complaint is that you can kill a 5 minute quarter in 7 running plays. My question is...how is that different than Madden? Why is that an issue now?

Passacaglia 06-19-2006 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan
I only read the first page of that thread (I think it's at 10 pages as of when I'm reading it), so maybe someone brought this up later...but that person's complaint is that you can kill a 5 minute quarter in 7 running plays. My question is...how is that different than Madden? Why is that an issue now?


I think this game is supposed to appeal to those who want realism more.

TroyF 06-19-2006 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan
I only read the first page of that thread (I think it's at 10 pages as of when I'm reading it), so maybe someone brought this up later...but that person's complaint is that you can kill a 5 minute quarter in 7 running plays. My question is...how is that different than Madden? Why is that an issue now?



In Madden you can change the quarter length to compensate for play style. Five minute quarters are a big warning bell for me.

For starters, it butchers the 2 minute drill. (I made this point above) Beyond that, it's going to be really tough to get the amount of plays correct. And if the computer coaches aren't set to identify the changes, we are going to see them start to use their timeouts in a close game at the BEGINNING of the fourth quarter.

Why they couldn't have had 15 minutes with an accelerated clock or have made it an option is insanity.

SirFozzie 06-19-2006 05:37 PM

Lovely. They just told me that since I bought it from the EA store, I can't use the EA downloader.

Which makes NO fucking sense what so ever when you think about it.

Blade6119 06-19-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia
I think this game is supposed to appeal to those who want realism more.

Nay, this game is supposed to appeal to buyers, whoever it may be.

Logan 06-19-2006 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TroyF
In Madden you can change the quarter length to compensate for play style. Five minute quarters are a big warning bell for me.

For starters, it butchers the 2 minute drill. (I made this point above) Beyond that, it's going to be really tough to get the amount of plays correct. And if the computer coaches aren't set to identify the changes, we are going to see them start to use their timeouts in a close game at the BEGINNING of the fourth quarter.

Why they couldn't have had 15 minutes with an accelerated clock or have made it an option is insanity.


I guess it just depends on how you play. I've always played Madden on 5 min quarters and never had issues with getting off enough plays to be realistic. Of course, I don't wind the clock down, and don't spend a large portion of the clock picking the play since usually I'll know exactly what I want to run. But I understand the concern of others.

AgustusM 06-19-2006 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan
I only read the first page of that thread (I think it's at 10 pages as of when I'm reading it), so maybe someone brought this up later...but that person's complaint is that you can kill a 5 minute quarter in 7 running plays. My question is...how is that different than Madden? Why is that an issue now?


It HAS been an issue in Madden and one only partially solved by accel clock.

It drives me crazy that NONE of the game developers can get this straight - make a 15 minute game with accel clock that averages the # of plays that is averaged in the NFL - What is so fucking hard to understand about that???? allow the 10 year old A.D.D. joystick jockeys who only care about TD dances to reduce the time because they are incapable of concentration on one thing for that long, but for the love of god at least have the option to play a realistic amount of plays in there.

(anger and frustration directed at game designers, not the quoted post or anyone else)

AgustusM 06-19-2006 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119
Nay, this game is supposed to appeal to buyers, whoever it may be.


that is absurd - every product has a target market. Makers of organic tofu cubes don't spend a lot of time advertising on NASCAR.

This game was made for the target market of people who want a realistic NFL sim - if they try to make this Madden with the added feature that you can't control the players this will be a one trick pony.

The average Madden Joystick Jockey doesn't even understand why this game is being read (I have read their posts on other forums) this game MUST appeal and appease the type of people that buy FOF and OOTP and the like or it will not make it.

Galaril 06-19-2006 07:03 PM

Wow, WTF 5 minute quarters?! Well, that just solved my problem of whether to buy this EA "poser" or the real deal FM 2006. FM it is.

DaddyTorgo 06-19-2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril
Wow, WTF 5 minute quarters?! Well, that just solved my prblem of whether to buy this EA "poser" or the real deal FM 2006. FM it is.


i feel like this has to be a huge deal-breaker. personally i know i could spend almost the whole 30 second clock talking to players, selecting a play, etc.

Eaglesfan27 06-19-2006 07:06 PM

Well, that is very disappointing about the 5 minute quarters. Hopefully, it can be modded to make the time of possession more realistic. I'm still (probably foolishly) looking forward to picking this up tomorrow.

jbmagic 06-19-2006 07:09 PM

I wonder how many minutes per quarter the sim games going to be?

DaddyTorgo 06-19-2006 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27
Well, that is very disappointing about the 5 minute quarters. Hopefully, it can be modded to make the time of possession more realistic. I'm still (probably foolishly) looking forward to picking this up tomorrow.


i'll be holding off to see if the quarter length can be successfully modded or if (for some reason) this isn't as much of a deal breaker for me as it seems to be from initial reports.

Eaglesfan27 06-19-2006 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo
i'll be holding off to see if the quarter length can be successfully modded or if (for some reason) this isn't as much of a deal breaker for me as it seems to be from initial reports.


I'll be posting stats of my first few games. I'm hoping the guy from Maddennation is right, and that I can still get off a decent number of plays while talking to my guys..

MacroGuru 06-19-2006 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27
I'll be posting stats of my first few games. I'm hoping the guy from Maddennation is right, and that I can still get off a decent number of plays while talking to my guys..


Right now Wal-mart is touting a release of the 22nd, I stopped by a rhino to see if they had it, and they are saying the 23rd, I hope the download version is out before then.

SegRat 06-19-2006 07:16 PM

Another new video up on gametrailers.com.
At the end of the video they show the number 1 coach of all time.



Don Schula

jbmagic 06-19-2006 07:19 PM

I think some of you guys are too anxious for the game. Its hard to back down now after reading about it for so long. Its human nature to feel like that.

Its probably best to wait for first game impressions before buying the game.

CraigSca 06-19-2006 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SegRat
Another new video up on gametrailers.com.
At the end of the video they show the number 1 coach of all time.



Don Schula


Man, Don Shula was robbed!

jbmagic 06-19-2006 09:48 PM

First game Impressions by Madden Nation

http://maddennation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58191

jbmagic 06-19-2006 10:22 PM

dola

Check out this blog.

http://blog.myspace.com/maddennation


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