At what point can we start throwing out our theories, because I have plenty, but work will probably preclude me from sharing.

Wow...what an ending.

Ok now what's the point of the commercial? I went to the website out of curiosity but I quickly closed it out because I don't want even the slightest hint as to what will happen in the last three episodes.

And in a completely unrelated note, ABC is now showing a new episode of Lost online the day after it airs on TV.

wow

Did you see Sawyer in Lucia flashback?

Uhhhh wow

Now I hate Michael even more. I'm going to go with the he is an "other" now theory.

This was a big shocker at the end.

I guess because of the DUI charges in real life.



Who do you think is Jack's sister?

I'd say yes to the DUI and I have no clue who Jack's sister is. Hurley better go ape shit on Michael, but from the preview it didn't look that way.

It connected Sawyer's flashback from Season 1 where he talked to Jack's dad in a bar.

DUI stuff killed the Hurley/freaky chick storyline. They could've at least finished it off...unless they're gonna bring her back for some flashbacks. I liked the promo of Michael being the puppet master. Hopefully this will payoff in the season finale.

my guess? Michael was captured by the others and released to do a task for them in exchange for getting Walt back. maybe that task was just releasing Henry, but I think there's more to it.

Jack's sister is on the island. No point for that flashback otherwise. I would assume Claire, making Jack now a protective uncle (or half-uncle). dark horse candidate would be Libby, but if she's dead, that might be tough to reveal.

I didn't see the preview for next week. AL is dead for sure, I assume. She's been rumored to be getting the axe since day one. But is Libby dead for sure? Seems like a ginormous loose end for her to die now, although I guess they could work her story into a Hurley flashback. Maybe all the cans of food she was holding stopped the bullets? The title of the episode, though, would lead me to think that two people died.

I also think that Libby is alive, but will be in coma or some other type of incapacitated state. The preview for next week, they say, "she's dead", not they're dead. Hurley seemed more relieved in the preview that Michael was not killed, rather than totally distraught that Libby died, which lends me to believe she is alive.

I beleive my sense of purpose for watching the show is clear now. Michael must die!!! ;)

I don't think they will kill off Libby, but (and without revealing anything more concrete) there was something in the previews for the next few episodes that might make me a little mad if it really happens.

I don't think they will kill Libby just yet, they have to show that she has some kind of resolution over what ever happened in her past before shee dies.

Cynthia Watros is in a new pilot (a Tom Cavanaugh vehicle) for next season. Now the casting announcement listed her as a recurring guest star, but some people think that was to avoid spoiling her character's demise.

Upcoming in the next TV Guide apparently is an in depth interview with the creators of the show. Not really a spoiler so i didn't invisotext or spoiler alert, but this is an excerpt from that interview about Michael.

"...The May 17 episode fills in the blanks on where Michael's been and what he's been doing. "He has gone through an ordeal that significantly changed the way he's acting and what motivates him," Lidelof says. "...is there anything a parent won't do to get their child back?"

Agree with you there. I think the whole "I'm sorry" before he shot Fight Chick proved that he's not one of the others.

While Libby may not be dead, she's at the minimum incapacitated, otherwise she'd rat out that Michael shot Fight Chick in the next episode.

Actually she has been signed up for a full time gig on another show next season.

Michael wishes he were Augustus Hill still.

Didn't Henry say to Ana-Lucia "You killed 2 of us..." ?
Goodwin was one, who was the second? Or am I remembering that conversation wrong?

Or did he mean "you" as all the Losties? In which case, he is probably talking about Goodwin and Ethan. That would infer that all the other people who were killed were not part of Henry's group but some third (or more) group.

Mr. Ecko killed one (or two?) as well. That would make three or four of the others they've killed.

Shannon

She killed the girl when the Others came back.

Well that kinda sucks if they killed those two off due to the DUI stuff. Especially because it spoils the Hurley subplot. Like the others (no not THOSE Others), I think Michael was coerced into freeing "Henry" and he would have killed anybody to do that. Ana Lucia and potentially Libby were the unlucky two. I also am beginning to think "Henry" has some mind control powers. Got AL to not kill him, Locke to think he was coming to get (save) him, maybe even Michael shooting himself. In any case those last couple minutes were quite shocking.

Claire seems the obvious choice for Jack's sister, since the woman was Australian.

Don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but I'll preface it with that and then space down since it was in the previews for next week...







Am I the only one who thought it looked like Michael was locked in the safe room in the preview? I agree with the others who posted that it's somewhat telling the line from the preview is "She's dead" and not "They're dead."

I would think it's at least possible that Libby is fine and gave up Michael as the killer. Him shooting himself was to make it look like Henry tried to escape, I'm guessing.

I wonder why Henry told Locke he was coming for him.

what was that all about?

man, I thought last night's episode was another repeat so i didn't bother watching! Is it coming on again?

There have been plenty of people killed. That's why I found it interesting that he said "two of us". Can anyone confim that he did say that? If he did say "two of us", then that would imply that Henry does not consider the other people killed to be part of his group.

Yea. Ana-Lucia killed Goodwin and Shannon. But I thought Henry said, "two of us". Why would he include Shannon in "us"? Or maybe I am remembering the quote wrong.

Second time I'm posting this, Ana killed a girl at the first camp they were at.

Ahhh. I thought you were referring to Shannon but after rereading your post, I see that was not the case. Thanks.

Who was Goodwin again? Someone please remind me.

Basically he was the Ethan with the Tailies.

He was the "Other" in the tail end section. I think Ana-Lucia impaled him, if I remember correctly.

Finally, a moment that completely shocked me. The show had been getting too predictable as of late.

I agree. I was expecting Rose and Bernard to be the fuckbunnies.

Damnit, I can't read this thread anymore, I am so confused!

Uh, I can hook you up with the online version. I can either send you the torrent or if you've got AIM I can send it to you through that (I think - I've had problems sending stuff to people before).

or he can just watch it at abc.com

Oh? That's nifty.

or she can

gracias.

That's what she said.

Ooops. Wrong show.

Purgatory theme or some such theme resurfaces. A-L decides against killing him, and is shortly thereafter killed. Hm.

Ah yes, I remember now, thanks. Goodwin was the guy that Ana-Lucia suspected of being an Other so she locked him up in their little pit before eventually killing him.

The guy she put in the pit is different from the guy who she eventually killed.

Yep. The guy she put in the pit was on the flight but she was certain he was an other. Goodwin pulled him out of the pit at night and killed him.

Ana later realized that Goodwin was the real "other" and she impaled him with a wooden spear.

I was wondering when/how AL and Libby would get the ax. It was a bullet instead. Still, it was a shocker when it happened, even if I chuckled moments later.

As to NotTheHenry telling Locke he was coming to take him away (ha-ha, hee-hee, etc.) because Locke is one of the good ones, why didn't he come for Rose, too? I suspect NotTheHenry is lying once more.

Given the way the writers tease us with false info in the teasers, I doubt the fellow who appears to go over a cliff will actually do so. Hurley didn't, either.

NotTheHenry was very upset about AL killing Goodwin in particular. He mentions what a great man Goodwin was, doesn't he? That made me think of Michael as brainwashed, not as someone who is doing so to get Walt back.

NotTheHenry seemed sincere in his fear that he would be killed for getting captured, however. That should be an interesting revelation. Will we see NotTheHenry again soon?

Do people really think a DUI had anything to do with yesterday's events?

They won't admit to it.

http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/en...679812005.html

I think it's very likely that Michelle Rodriguez's character was originally intended to only be a one season thing and the DUI had nothing to do with it. Libby dying is kind of strange because of the Hurley storyline, but I wouldn't be surprised if she hangs on for a couple more episodes so that she can have a flashback and Hurley can remember her before she dies.

They've already said it had nothing to do with the DUI and that Michelle signed up for a part role from the begining.

Perhaps the two women got the news they were being written out of a hit series, and then went out and got drunk. Filmed the episode later.

since the incident, I've assumed they were at a cast party together or something (I know they all like to get together to watch the shows).

i actually assumed the opposite. i thought libby was dead, and ana lucia is the one that will linger for a little while longer.

i also thought the woman that jacks dad went to see was WAY too young to have a daughter anywhere near jacks age. if jack does have a half sister, shed be pretty young (aka, not claire, shannon, or kate).

i think this episode goes a long way towards proving that jacks dad is behind everything. and i mean everything.

Could Libby be Jack Sister?

I think it's possible.

I think people are assuming that the woman he was talking to was the mother of Jack's sister and that Jack's sister lives in Australia. But that doesn't have to be the case at all. That woman could have been a friend of a friend, an ex-nanny, the girls aunt...all kinds of possibilities.

Remember the manuscript Sawyer was reading, well it looks like the Lost people have released it as a book. I wonder what it's link to the show is other then Sawyer was reading it...

http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/05/06/lo...g-hits-stores/

How so?

Nice, after 500 straight weeks of re-runs, seeing no advertisements for a new episode (maybe I don't watch ABC shows), I figured this week was another re-run. :rolleyes: so I missed it.

Maybe I'll catch it on another re-run night.

Or you could watch it online:

http://dynamic.abc.go.com/streaming/landing

Just got caught up. Interesting ending... I'm kind of on board with the "Libby isn't dead, at least not yet" thoughts.

Clearly Michael staged the incident to look like Henry did it... I've got to assume he's on some sort of mission from the Others in exchange for Walt, or that he's just been "turned" by the Others.

Sweet, thanks!!!!

Libby is dead. Eko and Locke will see Eko's brother in the next week and find another hatch.

i like how both girls busted for DUI were killed off and the name of the episode was "Two for the Road".

You might want to remove that chinaski, plenty of people get upset about "spoilers" from the previews of the next episode

EDITED Chinaskis post to be vague and made mine more vague. I think that is spoil free, just assumptions.

Definitely not happening. Not that I know, but I am used to the previews for next week being false. I bet you the person trips over a branch and falls about 1 foot into a small ditch, and they made it look like they fell off a cliff.

Has anyone been to the hansofoundation.org website? No spoilers on the site, but alot of background on the corporation. If that is a fan site, I'd like to get in touch with those people to see if they can help do some of that stuff for the NAFL.

After they showed a preview where Jin spoke perfect English and in the actual episode it was part of a dream sequence by Michael, I don't believe anything I see in the previews anymore.

since what i was saying was pretty meaningless, i removed it. its a teaser, highly unlikely they would ever give away a big surprise.

Its http://thehansofoundation.org/
here are the other ones....
http://www.widmorelaboratories.com/
http://www.rottenralf.com/

paikheavyindustry.com was another - but it seems to be down now. Paik is the last name of Jin! :eek:

These are all spoiler free, just websites created by the show to add a little more flavor. more shows need to do this.

thehansofoundation.org is interesting.
hansofoundation.org seems to be a user site made up of people who make jbmagic seem like Tolstoy.

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is why Michael was describing The Others the way he did. i.e. living in tents, primitive savages, "We can take them!", etc. From the one episode where Claire went back to the other bunker it seemed that they were actually normal, sophisticated people. I can't tell if Michael (if it really is Michael and not a "look-alike" as the Others do have theater makeup, costumes etc.) is trying to spark a revolution or trying to draw everyone into a trap?

I'll take option B.

Obviously, he deceiving them for some reason.

I still think there are more than one group of "Others."

Remember when Michael and Jin were hiding under some brush and a bunch of them walked by? Based on their clothes and lack of shoes, those could be a group that are living in tents.

The guys from Claire's flashback seemed more organized, well dressed, and educated (at least medically).

I wonder if he's really on a mission from the Others or if he's only hoping that they'll trade Henry for Walt, like why Danielle stole Claire's baby. Because if Henry can be believed (which is not likely, I admit) there's no way the Others would make that trade.

I'm up for some lesbian lover flashbacks myself :)

But it's likely they'd make Michael think they'd make that trade.

Unless Henry is the leader of The Others...

Eko made Locke his bitch because Locke was being difficult. I'm going to be very angry if they ever kill Eko off

What was the wxw.subLYMONAL.com commercial and website all about? Did anyone here catch that during the show?

I was playing with the dog and didn't catch on that it had something to do with Lost until the very end.

Yeah, I caught it when FF with Tivo. It was brief and wasn't very informative - something like a "science of tomorrow" advertisement. But it did give that website link.

Of course, I'm not sure exactly what the spinning tv's on the website are supposed to be telling me either.

I think I'll just stick to watching the show.

Me too.

I clicked a bunch on the spinning TVs and eventually they all lit up yellow and a "code" was revealed in the middle of them. Not sure what people are supposed to do with the code though.

At least he didn't go "Adibese" on him, if you know what I mean. That would have been a real shocker.

How did they originall capture Gale?

You click the TV's in order and it unsurprisingly it takes this many clicks for each one (in order) to unlock the tv... 4 - 8 - 15 - 16 - 23 - 42. I wont go on as what else happens once you unlock the tv's.

Awesome episode last night. Ecko is the shit.

one thing really bugged me, theyre all trecking thru the jungle to go back to the hatch and its pitch dark. It was the middle of the day when they were on their way back when we left off. Hurley just sat around for 6 hours while Libby was off getting blankets?

Then i got too thinking, wtf happened to the man beast and the smoke snake thing? No one mentions it anymore, no ones afraid of the jungle anymore, its like that whole plot has been erased.

The HansoCorp commercial was really great addition.

Hopefully the writers realized what lame plot devices they were.

Expanding on what you said though - it is disappointing that the palpable terror you felt when the tailies were trekking through the jungle with Sawyer and Jin and Michael isn't there any more. It seems like the writers only make the jungle foreboding when it suits them. MORE TERROR!

and what about the black rock? and the poar bears? and the people buried in the cave?

Wow. I thought about that too when they were opening the hatch. The only explanation I could come up with was that Ecko scared it away.

You go to TheHansoFoundation.org and click the Newsletter signup button. Then you put the code into the screenname box.

WTF happened to Desmond? We saw him the first couple episodes this season, then nothing. I like the show, but it could be so much better if things weren't left out for so long.

He commented on Salma Hayek the other day.

ooh nice catch. I got the message, but dont know the password. I never saw a phone number for customer service in the hanso commercial, did i miss that?

ok i found it, had to scan the episode with the tivo...
1-877-HANSORG (426-7674)

Ive called it, ive yet to find the password.

I hadn't gone back to get the number yet. I will give it a call.

I got the password. You just have to press 1 for general information, and it is among the proceeding messages.

The code on sublymonal was "Heir Apparent" I'm not sure of capitalization.

All I got was blinking ????

weird, the first time i listened to it, the message from her didnt play. i just got the full address of the company. I still cant make it out, could you pm it too me?

PM sent.

nm, i got it from Dan

Poor Libby.

Her whole backstory with Hurley is for nothing now.

Also from May 1 to June 30 you can watch episodes free at www.abc.com

a friend of mine heard talk somewhere that the dude in the orientation videos was missing an arm in the earlier video, but had both in the latest one.

I went back and watched the older video (thanks tivo), and sure enough, something is up with his arm. it's not clear if he's missing it, it's broken under his labcoat, or it's just hanging at his side, but it definitely looked "odd".

Yeah, my friends and I were all very big on the 1-arm theory on the original video... things are clearly different in this video. One of the better episodes of the year.