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RainMaker 01-05-2021 09:10 PM

With the remaining votes this looks to be over. Doubt it is even in the recount range after late mail in ballots are counted.

Where will Loeffler and Perdue get their stock picks from now?

lungs 01-05-2021 09:13 PM

If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

Galaril 01-05-2021 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3321165)
If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.


Yeah he’s ares me as the swing vote. I could see him voting with the Rs at times. But Biden will likely be able to keep him on board with the Dems side.

Thomkal 01-05-2021 09:17 PM

The data analyst for The Economist magazine calling both races for the Dems

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3321165)
If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.

I started hating him long before that.

kingfc22 01-05-2021 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3321168)
The data analyst for The Economist magazine calling both races for the Dems


I wish we had a live cam of the Turtle.

Atocep 01-05-2021 09:20 PM

Kelly Loeffler is apparently going to speak soon. Prepare for the shenanigans.

lungs 01-05-2021 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3321167)
Yeah he’s ares me as the swing vote. I could see him voting with the Rs at times. But Biden will likely be able to keep him on board with the Dems side.


He won't defect, but he'll use his newfound power.

Any other Dem Senators that might be a bit wobbly?

Thomkal 01-05-2021 09:20 PM

DeKalb County expecting to release large vote count before 11pm

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3321175)
Kelly Loeffler is apparently going to speak soon. Prepare for the shenanigans.


Lol, probably right before DeKalb drops its votes

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 09:24 PM


molson 01-05-2021 09:24 PM

Stating the obvious, but this is such an important result if it holds, even aside from Senate control, especially if these Dems outperformed Biden. It's at least some evidence that the Republicans have gone to far and that they'll face push back from real voters. It's just hard for me to fathom how decent people aren't jumping ship in bigger numbers. I'll never understand it. But maybe at least a few are.

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 09:27 PM


GrantDawg 01-05-2021 09:30 PM

Crazy numbers:

bronconick 01-05-2021 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3321176)
He won't defect, but he'll use his newfound power.

Any other Dem Senators that might be a bit wobbly?


Arizona's 2 are pretty conservative by Democratic standards.

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 09:34 PM

Georgia people: Monica Kaufman is doing election coverage on WSB radio. Never knew how much I'd miss her.

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 09:39 PM

171k votes from DeKalb to be uploaded soon.

Butter 01-05-2021 09:39 PM

Offshore odds have Warnock at -5000 and Ossoff at -2000 to win. Both huge favorites

BishopMVP 01-05-2021 09:42 PM

If Ossoff does make it 50, this was an interesting article from 2012 about how Joe Manchin & McConnell hate each other. politico.com/story/2012/02/football-feud-mcconnell-vs-manchin-072591 Hopefully their relationship hasn't improved since then! :)

miami_fan 01-05-2021 09:47 PM

So ummm anybody else switching over to Fox News to see if they called the election yet?;)

Lathum 01-05-2021 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 3321194)
So ummm anybody else switching over to Fox News to see if they called the election yet?;)


Literally just watching. It’s that horrible blond woman and they weren’t even covering the election. They had a law professor on to talk about Pences options tomorrow.

Butter 01-05-2021 09:50 PM

Ossoff odds drop to -450

Galaril 01-05-2021 09:52 PM

Gee I hope all these predictions are true and the D take them both but man the Ossoff one is going to be super close. They just said there is only 130k votes left for Dekalb county and not the 200k originally reported. Ossoff is down 113k . I am not seeing how he can catch up.

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Galaril (Post 3321198)
Gee I hope all these predictions are true and the D take them both but man the Ossoff one is going to be super close. They just said there is only 130k votes left for Dekalb county and not the 200k originally reported. Ossoff is down 113k . I am not seeing how he can catch up.

Then the SOS restated that it is definitely 171k+

Swaggs 01-05-2021 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lungs (Post 3321165)
If this holds, I imagine we hate Joe Manchin by the end of the year.


He and Biden are both Catholic. I think they’ll have a good working relationship. He’s always going to vote pro-coal and pro-energy, but he’s fallen in line on most all of the important votes. He voted for Kavanaugh, but most people in the state think he may have lost his re-election if he had not. For A WV Democrat, he’s as good as it is going to get.


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Originally Posted by BishopMVP (Post 3321193)
If Ossoff does make it 50, this was an interesting article from 2012 about how Joe Manchin & McConnell hate each other. politico.com/story/2012/02/football-feud-mcconnell-vs-manchin-072591 Hopefully their relationship hasn't improved since then! :)


There is a great poster/drawing of Manchin vs McConnell facing off in one of the bars near WVU’s stadium. There was a lot of ill will. The sad thing is that Louisville lost that battle, but won the war by getting into the ACC, which is a much better fit for WVU (with the geography and almost all their traditional rivals) than the Big 12.

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 09:59 PM

So the NYT needle has it right now at 95%+ for Warnock and 89% for Ossoff

kingfc22 01-05-2021 09:59 PM

Now you have the orange clown and the Twitter trolls claiming De Kalb is waiting to see how many votes are needed before they release their count.

And the sheeple just eat it up.

Butter 01-05-2021 10:05 PM

Ossoff is down 113k. If he wins the DeKalb vote by the expected margin, he'll pick up 120k votes

JPhillips 01-05-2021 10:06 PM

If both Dems win, don't expect much in the way of legislation, but appointments will go through and the GOP won't be able to flood the media with bullshit investigations.

Jas_lov 01-05-2021 10:06 PM

Chatham county has gone to bed with 20k votes left to count. Nothing important going on.

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 3321208)
Chatham county has gone to bed with 20k votes left to count. Nothing important going on.

They live a more relax lifestyle down in Savannah.

Jas_lov 01-05-2021 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3321207)
If both Dems win, don't expect much in the way of legislation, but appointments will go through and the GOP won't be able to flood the media with bullshit investigations.


Justice Breyer can retire. And could they do another round of stimulus if they offset it with tax increases on corps/rich? Maybe that could get 60 votes anyway but at least they'll be able to bring things like that up for a vote.

GrantDawg 01-05-2021 10:11 PM


Swaggs 01-05-2021 10:13 PM

Cohn has been really good about explaining the needle. Looks good for the democrats.


Swaggs 01-05-2021 10:14 PM

Doh. Looks like GD beat me to punch.

kingfc22 01-05-2021 10:20 PM

De Kalb just came in. Warlock is up by a big margin and Ossoff is in striking distance.

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 10:20 PM

Big chunk from DeKalb. Warnock pulls ahead, Ossoff 2k back. Still got more to go in DeKalb

Bartow also came in. Warnock up by 20k and Ossoff down by 20k

sterlingice 01-05-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kingfc22 (Post 3321173)
I wish we had a live cam of the Turtle.


He got to win no matter what. That die was cast on Election Day when it was close enough that the Dems will spend the next 2 years screwing things up. They can point to having a "majority", he gets to play resistance fighter for 2 years, and then they clean up in the midterms

SI

Atocep 01-05-2021 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 3321218)
He got to win no matter what. That die was cast on Election Day when it was close enough that the Dems will spend the next 2 years screwing things up. They can point to having a "majority", he gets to play resistance fighter for 2 years, and then they clean up in the midterms

SI


What will absolutely kill him, if this holds, is Dems will be able to get judges through.

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 10:31 PM

https://twitter.com/nate_cohn/status...514970112?s=21

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 10:34 PM

A few mail Fulton votes and Ossoff is behind by only 3k now. Warnock up by 30k.

Mail in votes in Atlanta metro is started to come in

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 10:38 PM

Ossoff now only 500 votes back

Butter 01-05-2021 10:39 PM

Warnock projected winner by Decision Desk HQ.

Ossoff within 1000 votes.

Democrats waiting to see how many votes they need has really paid off

Danny 01-05-2021 10:41 PM

So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?

Atocep 01-05-2021 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3321226)
So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?


I would say most likely.

Lathum 01-05-2021 10:45 PM

https://twitter.com/thedailyshow/sta...533137408?s=21

ISiddiqui 01-05-2021 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 3321229)


Awesome!

Young Drachma 01-05-2021 10:50 PM

Welp.

Radii 01-05-2021 10:50 PM

The racist history of Georgia's runoff election system

Since we have a lot of history lovers here, I didn't know until today that runoff elections in the south primarily exist explicitly as a form of white supremacy and to suppress the black vote. This article suggests that in states like Georgia it can't really do that successfully anymore, but that it can in places like Alabama and Mississippi.

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A segregationist state congressman, Denmark Groover, fought for Georgia to subscribe to the system because of personal affliction after he’d previously lost an election due to what he called the “Negro bloc,” where the theory was Black voters could pool all their votes to one favored candidate, while white votes would be split among various candidates. Runoffs would ensure white candidates could beat the minority vote in a head-to-head majority contest, rather than a plurality contest with more candidates. Two decades later, Groover plainly admitted his reasoning for the system: “If you want to establish if I was racially prejudiced, I was,” he said. “If you want to establish that some of my political activity was racially motivated, it was.”

rjolley 01-05-2021 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Danny (Post 3321226)
So if trump had conceded and thrown his support behind these two candidates they likely win right?


Even without his support, I'm shocked they seriously might lose.


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