I think we've all aged so much that we don't remember being 20-something. I used to listen to political talk radio, sports shit talk shows, and argue online about really, really stupid stuff when I was younger, until I woke up one day and realized it wasn't worth it.

I don't know if it was becoming more mature or just getting tired as I aged, frankly. Or maybe having a family and career by the time I was late-20s into my 30s that I spent most of my energy on left me unable to muster a single fuck to give about "Who's better, LeBron or MJ?," or "Should Barry Bonds be in the HoF?," or "If Romo goes on vacation during the season, does he want to win?"-type bullshit. I'm sure the topics are even more ridiculous in the social media era. But I can totally see 20-something males eating that shit up, because what else is there to do?

Wow. No wonder they were OK shoving MLB to the curb to double-down on the NFL.

ESPN Could Spend As Much As $2 Billion To Buy The NFL Network, NFL RedZone, & NFL+

Sigh.

I like NFL+

I sort of hate the current model of "Create something good that people enjoy so that you can sell it to one of six mega corporations that will make it shitty."

I mean, the NFL certainly will make more money this way, so I get it. Just sucks from the consumer perspective.

I feel there was a point in my lifetime where a switch flipped from companies, in general, trying to make better products all the time, to companies, in general, trying to make products that were just good enough but, crucially, had better profit margins, but I can't pinpoint exactly when that happened.

This post brought to you by using, yesterday, a Craftsman circular saw inherited from my FIL that I'm sure he bought in the 80s.

I can't wait to have red zone ruined by Pat Mcafee doing dude bro schtick non stop...

And were created/improved just enough to create value so they could be flipped to someone else to ruin.

Note to all media but especially sports media.

I will never EVER need to receive an breaking news alert from your media company about the Shannon Sharpe allegations!

I really like NFL+, too. It's really been a great app/service. The ability to watch games and the RedZone from my phone or iPad anywhere is huge.

I totally agree. There is only one local sports talk show that I like and it's really just one guy, who I enjoy. If he's on vacation or something, I won't listen. Even when I do, I only ever listen through the app and only to segments that sound interesting.

Anyone else ever log in for the first time in ~5 years and be shocked to see a thread you started 13 years ago still be on the front page???

Just scrolling and seeing some names really brings me back. Great to see so many still active.

Hope you all have been well :).

Hi Logan :)


The best part is when someone doesn't see it was started 10 years ago and acting like it was new :D

Good to see you, Logan!

I used to watch it Around The Horn on a regular basis when we moved to South Dakota and my wife would join me ever so often and enjoyed the show even as a non sports fan.

Fast forward 23 years later, I tuned into for the final episode even though I haven't watched in ten plus years. My wife saw it was on my office TV, was shocked it was on and then proceeded to name all of the old timers on the panel only missing on Frank Isola. She is now in tears at how old Tony Reali has gotten.

What a run.

Not sure he qualified as "famous" so I'll put it here... just saw that John Brenkus died. It's been "a hot minute" as the kids say, since I watched ESPN for anything other than live sports, but there was a time when his Sports Science short videos were all over ESPN.

The announcement I read said that he lost his battle with depression, so I assume that means he killed himself.

I stopped listening to talk radio shows years ago, but apparently Stephen A. Smith has decided he isn't loud enough just on ESPN or General Hospital or whatever else he yells on, so now he's taking his talent for engagement (I guess that's the best way to describe it) to SXM, and some show co-hosted by Michelle Beadle got axed. She went scorched earth on air for a couple of days, and her and her co-host (don't recall the name but I had never heard of him before) got canned.

Probably the most entertaining kind of sports talk show is when the hosts go on the air not long after being blindsided with news they are being replaced. Kinda wish I knew about it as it happened!

I always liked Beadle. Going to have to find out what happened Steven A is actually pretty mellow on general hospital as one of Sunny’s henchmen.

That's true, but just seeing him on screen makes my ears bleed.

looks like the now-unemployed co-host is former Padres outfield Cody Decker. Probably best known as Jenn Sterger's ex-husband.

After watching the Favre documentary, that's the second time I've heard that name in a week after not hearing it for a very long time before that.