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PurdueBrad 05-13-2009 07:18 PM

****, sorry ntn and village, that's a better role than me.

Autumn 05-13-2009 07:19 PM

Good grief. I guess the no role reveal was not a good sign.

EagleFan 05-13-2009 07:19 PM

On the bright side it was not a major role and actually one that had more of a chance to hurt us than help us.

claphamsa 05-13-2009 07:20 PM

i dont get it... thatsa not such a powerful role....

claphamsa 05-13-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EagleFan (Post 2021175)
On the bright side it was not a major role and actually one that had more of a chance to hurt us than help us.

+1

Autumn 05-13-2009 07:20 PM

Ah my mistake, I was thinking that was the version of the bodyguard, but I see it's not. Well, that voting record might still prove useful.

PurdueBrad 05-13-2009 07:22 PM

It basically serves as a back-up to the bodyguard though.

hoopsguy 05-13-2009 07:22 PM

Well, hopefully there was a wolf near the top of the votes today rather than just a bunch of churning.

claphamsa 05-13-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurdueBrad (Post 2021180)
It basically serves as a back-up to the bodyguard though.

body guard wont block a seer scan....

Danny 05-13-2009 07:26 PM

I found it funny that Mr. Quiet NTN got the Talker :)

Passacaglia 05-13-2009 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2021181)
Well, hopefully there was a wolf near the top of the votes today rather than just a bunch of churning.


Even if there was, what would that tell us?

claphamsa 05-13-2009 07:27 PM

i was gonna say the same thing... but I got lazy :D


Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2021188)
I found it funny that Mr. Quiet NTN got the Talker :)


Danny 05-13-2009 07:27 PM

Oh and there was definite risk/reward with that role. I envisioned it being more useful late in the game, such as when some other roles are gone already.

Danny 05-13-2009 07:29 PM

Night Deadline is 1am eastern.

PurdueBrad 05-13-2009 07:41 PM

My only thoughts at this point is that I hope either myself or one of the other ntn voters is the recipient of a scan.

hoopsguy 05-13-2009 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2021189)
Even if there was, what would that tell us?


1.) A wolf near the top of the votes is more likely to be selected for a scan tonight
2.) If there was a wolf in the top three players at the end then the wolves likely would have had to exert some energy to save him

I'm still very keen on the idea of seeing EF as the scan for tonight. But since I don't get to call that shot it probably doesn't matter all that much.

Passacaglia 05-13-2009 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 2021216)
1.) A wolf near the top of the votes is more likely to be selected for a scan tonight
2.) If there was a wolf in the top three players at the end then the wolves likely would have had to exert some energy to save him

I'm still very keen on the idea of seeing EF as the scan for tonight. But since I don't get to call that shot it probably doesn't matter all that much.


Right. I guess I was looking for something more specific about #2, and what that means for us. I'm not sure if anything's there right now, but maybe I'll be able to take a better look tomorrow.

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 07:58 PM

ugh - i forgot that deadline was 8 and didn't realize what time it was

at least it was just d1

Autumn 05-13-2009 08:22 PM

Good thing the deadline hadn't stayed at 6 ;-)

Poli 05-13-2009 08:45 PM

Hmmph.

Schmidty 05-13-2009 09:21 PM

Hi.

Schmidty 05-13-2009 09:21 PM

I'm lonesome.

Poli 05-13-2009 09:24 PM

Creepy quiet.

DaddyTorgo 05-13-2009 09:24 PM

d1 - not sure how much analysis there can be at this point

Schmidty 05-13-2009 09:25 PM

I just posted more than I did in the last game.

The Jackal 05-13-2009 09:44 PM

What would you like to discuss?

The Jackal 05-13-2009 09:45 PM

In games where there's a split between the lynch deadline and night deadline I feel like not a lot of talking gets done, both because of wolves plotting and because it's usually late at night and most people are on their way to bed.

Poli 05-13-2009 09:53 PM

I think I'm on my way to bed on that note.

EagleFan 05-13-2009 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Jackal (Post 2021284)
In games where there's a split between the lynch deadline and night deadline I feel like not a lot of talking gets done, both because of wolves plotting and because it's usually late at night and most people are on their way to bed.


I was noticing that in the Office Space game and the last couple games it has jumped out at me.

I like running a split deadline but I think the next game I run will only have an hour in between. That way by the time the write up is done those with night actions still have time to submit and the initial wave of reaction to the day results has died down just in time for the night result.

hoopsguy 05-13-2009 09:53 PM

I'm not sure how much there is to discuss at this point. Can't talk about a role if it is not one of the public ones. Don't want to give away any kind of meaningful information about a private role.

I put down who I would like to see the seer scan (EF). I'm guessing the BG would stay home tonight, although I'm not sure that is an option from the description. I'm guessing that the Duke is a daytime role. And I think that covers the public roles.

I'm not sure how to put today's vote into context at the moment. I'm hopeful that we'll have an opportunity later in the game to do so.

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 09:55 PM

Agreed

EagleFan 05-13-2009 09:57 PM

I just keep waiting to hear that a train is getting close, or see someone dragged away in handcuffs every time I see Abe has posted in the thread... )

Abe Sargent 05-13-2009 11:04 PM

You get used to it ;)

dubb93 05-13-2009 11:25 PM

I would have given Abe the role of "Bull Moose Special."

Quote:

You hear the train coming and fear what will happen when it gets here.

Danny 05-13-2009 11:48 PM

12 minutes until night deadline

Danny 05-14-2009 12:01 AM

I am beginning to process night results.

Chief Rum 05-14-2009 12:11 AM

In time for the night results.

Sucks about ntn. I am hoping we get a good scan tonight, not that I recommend the seer come out this soon, though. I am not sure even a wolf scan at this point has as much value so early. I am greedy, and would like to see the seer attempt to scan for another wolf or two, or get some information on the wolf with the wolf not knowing he's outed.

Incidentally, with respect to my theory before, ntn turning out to be a villager validates a portion of one of the theory's basic tenets (both ntn and EF would have to be villagers).

Danny 05-14-2009 12:14 AM

As you all look around after the night time, no one is missing except.....
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Danny the therapist who then comes out of the bathroom in a clown costume after Poli earlier confessed he is scared of clowns. After a good laugh and changed underwear, everyone is here.

Still, with no one dead, the eerie feeling is still there. You think there are those out to get you, but so far have no proof. Are your fears acute paranoia? Or is it only a matter of time before those out to get you, really do!

During the night, EagleFan was criticized and does not feel confident enough to vote today. He was so hurt he did not notice who insulted him. EF can still post in thread.

Danny 05-14-2009 12:15 AM

At least one person is here for the results.

Lathum 05-14-2009 12:16 AM

Vote PB

The Jackal 05-14-2009 12:16 AM

Interesting. I hope that's a good thing.

The Jackal 05-14-2009 12:16 AM

well that was quick

Lathum 05-14-2009 12:17 AM

OK, so no kill.

Does that mean maybe the criticize every other night and kill every other night or was there something else in play?

The Jackal 05-14-2009 12:18 AM

I don't see anything about conversions in the rules, and I doubt a BG is going to reveal unless they caught something, so I donno.

Danny 05-14-2009 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 2021370)
OK, so no kill.

Does that mean maybe the criticize every other night and kill every other night or was there something else in play?


Since I am not Abe, the criticize is a listed wolf ability of a specific wolf. It does not have anything to do with the night kill.

The Jackal 05-14-2009 12:19 AM

So someone criticized EF, odd choice. Worried about where he'd put his vote? Could be a move to gain trust for a wolf, so it doesn't really elevate him into any trust category for me.

Lathum 05-14-2009 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny (Post 2021373)
Since I am not Abe, the criticize is a listed wolf ability of a specific wolf. It does not have anything to do with the night kill.


ok, so maybe we were lucky enough to get a block. nice.

Lathum 05-14-2009 12:20 AM

Danny, can the wolves criticize their own?

Chief Rum 05-14-2009 12:20 AM

Those wolf roles are independent of one another, right? So the Emphathizer (or whatever, the wolf Sympathizer seeker) can do his thing, while another wolf kills?

Just trying to determine if a no kill is a BG block, or an indication the wolves didn't try to use a kill tonight. Also, if they find the Sympathizer, does that result in a conversion? I don't recall if the first page said.

Danny 05-14-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 2021378)
Those wolf roles are independent of one another, right? So the Emphathizer (or whatever, the wolf Sympathizer seeker) can do his thing, while another wolf kills?

Just trying to determine if a no kill is a BG block, or an indication the wolves didn't try to use a kill tonight. Also, if they find the Sympathizer, does that result in a conversion? I don't recall if the first page said.


The wolves choose to send someone in for the kill. The roles listed are specific wolf roles and does not have any bearing on a night kill or not. There may or may not be other mechanics in play though since there are many unlisted roles.


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