****, sorry ntn and village, that's a better role than me.

Good grief. I guess the no role reveal was not a good sign.

On the bright side it was not a major role and actually one that had more of a chance to hurt us than help us.

i dont get it... thatsa not such a powerful role....

+1

Ah my mistake, I was thinking that was the version of the bodyguard, but I see it's not. Well, that voting record might still prove useful.

It basically serves as a back-up to the bodyguard though.

Well, hopefully there was a wolf near the top of the votes today rather than just a bunch of churning.

body guard wont block a seer scan....

Even if there was, what would that tell us?

i was gonna say the same thing... but I got lazy :D

My only thoughts at this point is that I hope either myself or one of the other ntn voters is the recipient of a scan.

1.) A wolf near the top of the votes is more likely to be selected for a scan tonight
2.) If there was a wolf in the top three players at the end then the wolves likely would have had to exert some energy to save him

I'm still very keen on the idea of seeing EF as the scan for tonight. But since I don't get to call that shot it probably doesn't matter all that much.

Right. I guess I was looking for something more specific about #2, and what that means for us. I'm not sure if anything's there right now, but maybe I'll be able to take a better look tomorrow.

ugh - i forgot that deadline was 8 and didn't realize what time it was

at least it was just d1

Good thing the deadline hadn't stayed at 6 ;-)

Hmmph.

Hi.

I'm lonesome.

Creepy quiet.

d1 - not sure how much analysis there can be at this point

I just posted more than I did in the last game.

What would you like to discuss?

In games where there's a split between the lynch deadline and night deadline I feel like not a lot of talking gets done, both because of wolves plotting and because it's usually late at night and most people are on their way to bed.

I think I'm on my way to bed on that note.

I was noticing that in the Office Space game and the last couple games it has jumped out at me.

I like running a split deadline but I think the next game I run will only have an hour in between. That way by the time the write up is done those with night actions still have time to submit and the initial wave of reaction to the day results has died down just in time for the night result.

I'm not sure how much there is to discuss at this point. Can't talk about a role if it is not one of the public ones. Don't want to give away any kind of meaningful information about a private role.

I put down who I would like to see the seer scan (EF). I'm guessing the BG would stay home tonight, although I'm not sure that is an option from the description. I'm guessing that the Duke is a daytime role. And I think that covers the public roles.

I'm not sure how to put today's vote into context at the moment. I'm hopeful that we'll have an opportunity later in the game to do so.

Agreed

I just keep waiting to hear that a train is getting close, or see someone dragged away in handcuffs every time I see Abe has posted in the thread... )

You get used to it ;)

I would have given Abe the role of "Bull Moose Special."

12 minutes until night deadline

I am beginning to process night results.

In time for the night results.

Sucks about ntn. I am hoping we get a good scan tonight, not that I recommend the seer come out this soon, though. I am not sure even a wolf scan at this point has as much value so early. I am greedy, and would like to see the seer attempt to scan for another wolf or two, or get some information on the wolf with the wolf not knowing he's outed.

Incidentally, with respect to my theory before, ntn turning out to be a villager validates a portion of one of the theory's basic tenets (both ntn and EF would have to be villagers).

At least one person is here for the results.

Interesting. I hope that's a good thing.

well that was quick

OK, so no kill.

Does that mean maybe the criticize every other night and kill every other night or was there something else in play?

I don't see anything about conversions in the rules, and I doubt a BG is going to reveal unless they caught something, so I donno.

Since I am not Abe, the criticize is a listed wolf ability of a specific wolf. It does not have anything to do with the night kill.

So someone criticized EF, odd choice. Worried about where he'd put his vote? Could be a move to gain trust for a wolf, so it doesn't really elevate him into any trust category for me.

ok, so maybe we were lucky enough to get a block. nice.

Danny, can the wolves criticize their own?

Those wolf roles are independent of one another, right? So the Emphathizer (or whatever, the wolf Sympathizer seeker) can do his thing, while another wolf kills?

Just trying to determine if a no kill is a BG block, or an indication the wolves didn't try to use a kill tonight. Also, if they find the Sympathizer, does that result in a conversion? I don't recall if the first page said.

The wolves choose to send someone in for the kill. The roles listed are specific wolf roles and does not have any bearing on a night kill or not. There may or may not be other mechanics in play though since there are many unlisted roles.