All I meant was that as I read things I found myself agreeing with saldana's pov. Then some people were saying he was suspicious. Since I know I'm good, I am willing to say that his day 1 play was NOT suspicious.

Well, I'm on pg. 15, but not all the way down. Seems like we need 2 votes to vote for Chief (if I added correctly):

VOTE CHIEF RUM

I absolutely do not like early no-lynches. I voted for him more because we need a majority, not really because I feel he is on the dark side. I feel bad he's not here to defend himself though.

Oh you voted for swaggs. ok my bad. I'll fix that. I didnt read clearly. sorry am trying to get the place cleaned up too

Because you kept insisting the day 1 vote record means something. It doesn't. This is pretty much a vote against that idea.

Kk, here is updated list. my apologies:

(11) Chief Rum - Saldana (482), Alan (504), Schmidty (552), Lathum (555), Jonathan Ezarik (577), Thomkal (585), Grammaticus (593), Spleen (625), Lonestargirl (700), Mr. Wednesday (708) Izulde (738)
(7) Lathum - St.Cronin (557), Swaggs (594), Ntndeacon (595), Kwhit (607), Sublime (616), BrianD (707), Daddytorgo (712)
(1) Saldana - Chief Rum (446)
(1) St.cronin - Sndvls (532)
(1) Alan - Blade (611)
(1) Swaggs - Tyrith (704)

That's 12 votes for CR.

It will mean something in conjunction with the other votes.

Unvote Lathum

Vote Chief Rum

FYI: My vote change was to try to help make sure we get a majority.

Not really, because they could be fairly certain he was going to die early on and they could use it as a chance to get some "good" votes in. Or, more likely, they didn't know who he was. But this is a situation where there could easily be bad guys that have good records.

I really don't understand this logic, at all. If you think it's a bad lynch, DON'T VOTE FOR HIM!

Lynching a villager is worse for the village than not lynching anybody.

As of post 759:

(13) Chief Rum - Saldana (482), Alan (504), Schmidty (552), Lathum (555), Jonathan Ezarik (577), Thomkal (585), Grammaticus (593), Spleen (625), Lonestargirl (700), Mr. Wednesday (708) Izulde (738), Dodgerchick (752), Kwhit (758)
(6) Lathum - St.Cronin (557), Swaggs (594), Ntndeacon (595), Sublime (616), BrianD (707), Daddytorgo (712)
(1) Saldana - Chief Rum (446)
(1) St.cronin - Sndvls (532)
(1) Alan - Blade (611)
(1) Swaggs - Tyrith (704)

I strongly disagree with thos

You're right. You just helped me make my decision. I don't really think CR is bad, so I'm switching back.

Sorry if this is a f*** up.

Unvote Chief Rum
Vote Lathum

How can you strongly disagree with something you are doing?

Tyriths votes are very suspiscous to me. He unvotes me because he says he is sure I am not gonna be lynched, then moves to a Swaggs who has no heat on him at all. It seems to me he is trying to cover his tracks...

Heh. Good point.

Lynching a villager is only good for us when finding out his affiliation will really tell us something about the other players. With Chief being gone we pretty much have the first three or four voters with any sort of argument at all, and a bunch of followers. Alan's argument was not liking chief defending someone so easily. Lathum and saldana are just saying that they've seen him play like this before and be bad. These arguments wouldn't tell me much about them if he was lynched, because they had to make some weak argument today to put a vote in. In this case I think if we lynch a villager we're mostly just down a villager -- the information won't be worth a dead body.

Of course, there's the chance he's bad you also have to weigh in, meaning I can't completely object to this.

I feel that there is atleast a small case to vote Lathum at this point, st. cronin pointed this out around post 705 or so, but I'm missing why we should be voting CR.

Well its deadline.. guess good or bad, we find out something maybe.

(12) Chief Rum - Saldana (482), Alan (504), Schmidty (552), Lathum (555), Jonathan Ezarik (577), Thomkal (585), Grammaticus (593), Spleen (625), Lonestargirl (700), Mr. Wednesday (708) Izulde (738), Dodgerchick (752)
(7) Lathum - St.Cronin (557), Swaggs (594), Ntndeacon (595), Sublime (616), BrianD (707), Daddytorgo (712), Kwhit (765)
(1) Saldana - Chief Rum (446)
(1) St.cronin - Sndvls (532)
(1) Alan - Blade (611)
(1) Swaggs - Tyrith (704)

That is time. For today's vote, we need 12 out of 23 players. Let me go check.

because we have a chance of hitting a bad guy instead of sitting on our hands and letting the forces of darkness pick us off one at a time at night. look how lucky we got yesterday...nothing to say we couldnt get that lucky again.

Ok, I think i missed these points before, atleast Lathum and saldana's.

Im voting you for the sole reason of getting you and cronin to shut up. My original action was to vote chief and be make sure the lynch happened. You both threw a big fit over it becuase i feel he is good, so to stop you two from whining incessantly i swapped to you. I am voting you becuase your my top suspect and you nagged me enough about how my original choice was such a terrible decision. :rolleyes:

Then you better be damn well suspicious of Blade, too. I won't let you get away with just pointing it at me.

Stop putting words in my mouth. The only fit I had was you saying that I made you vote a certain way. I don't care honestly how you vote.

blades actions early in the game lead me to believe he is of no harm to us.

Should we never vote to lynch anyone again unless we are absolutely sure that he's not a villager? Instead we should just wait until we get picked off one by one?

I have 12 for Chief Rum. Is that confirmed?

Ive got my own problems to deal with tyrith...when you get on my level of heat, EVERY GAME, then come talk to me. The amount of heat you have on you is like childs play compared to what ive had to put up with so far.

Furthermore, I was right about you not going to be getting lynched; even with everyone that had voted for you it would have been, what, 10 votes? With the remaining outstanding votes being highly unlikely to move towards you instead of the candidate with the higher count.

I wasn't trying to point him at you as to point out that his logic had holes in it. I've told you repeatedly today that I'm on your side in this war against people killing you for bad reasons, remember? :)

That's what I've got too, Abe.

I think that's what alan has too

I also have 12 for chief.

The evening brings an end to the sunshine that penetrated the fog and another day of deliberations. Fresh from success the previous day and a reminder of why you are embarking on this task last night, resolve hardens your veins and tendons.

Tonight you vote another of your own for lynching. Righteousness boils through the assembly. You have voted for Chief Rum. When the final vote is tallied, he cries out in fright and scurries underneath the tale, but you pull his three foot two inch frame out from under the table easily enough.

One of you carries him to the central gallows you had set up but with which you do not administer justice the previous evening, since Scoobz forced you to cut him down. This will be the first lynch of the freshly cut and assembled gallows.

Right away you notice a problem. Your gallows are man height, and not designed for a hobbit. You discuss the situation and decide to have someone hold him up while the rope is tied around his neck, then release him.

You begin to prepare the rope, and Chief Rum looks at you with wide eyed horror. He knows that death has marked him, and fate will off him this evening. His tears of sorrow glisten in the twilight, but your resolve is set. Although a few of you begin to have doubts, the assembly has spoken.

The sight of the hobbit, openly weeping in torment, is ultimately too much for you, and you have to cover his head. You cast lots to see who will have to hold him up, and once that is decided, the task begins. His hobbit frame squirms under the weight of the hanging, and it takes him a lot longer to die than a human would have taken, because he weighs less. After a half hour of horror, he still twitches occasionally. You decide to leave him alone for now and investigate his place.

Nob was a hobbit servant at the Prancing Pony Inn, and he kept a small room there, underneath the Inn. You enter it as best as you can, but find nothing to verify your suspicions. As far as you can tell, he was just a normal hobbit who served you all just as he did Mr. Underhill’s party.

Realizing your mistake, you hurry back to the gallows, but it is too late, and the hobbit lies dead. The sheer terror on his face as he realized that his friends and associates were about to kill him are everywhere you turn, and shutting your eyes does not blank the shame.


Day Two has ended. Night Two has begun. It ends at 3:30 am EST Wednesday morning.


-Anxiety

See, what's different about this game is that we need a majority (50% +1), so that means we either kill someone and learn something based on voting records or trails people leave, or we keep our finger up our butt and let the dark side kill us off one by one, or multiple times a night.

Who knows, Chief just MIGHT be evil, we'll have to see, but I just don't want an early no-lynch.

No, of course not. But voting INSERT RANDOM PLAYER simply because you think you HAVE to lynch somebody is really pathetic. Show some stones, find a reason to vote for somebody.

I'm not saying I didn't enjoy the bit yesterday, but don't you think you kind of brought some of the heat on you in the beginning of this? Like i said i didn't mind like some did, but it certainly raises an eyebrow or two.

so if you were so sure I wasn't gonna be lynched why switch?

ah well

I am right again.

dammit!!!

Watch the language.

Wow... that was a powerful write up. :(

Ugh. That sucks.

Beautiful writeup though, Anxiety.

Because I could use the vote to rally against a point of contention in the game. Although, to be fair, I should have explained the vote better at the time, but I was not happy.

errr sorry

"Dagnabbit!" or "darnit!"

do you want me to edit it?

My arguement was you were my top suspect. I said becuase you werent going to get lynched, id take your supporter as my second best suspect. I never said you compelled me to vote a certain way, so stop putting words into my mouth...

By the way, i love these two posts
You actually recognize my acutal argument in the first half, then digress...I love how that one ends and this one follows shortly...nice contrast :p

sucks big time

wish CR could have been here to defend himself

I thought we needed 13 for the 50%+1?