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FrogMan 05-03-2007 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by path12 (Post 1457039)
I have to say, even though it doesn't show current form or morale unless full screen, that this FMC skin is really really cool.

Just sayin'.


sadly, it's a deal breaker to me... but it does look very good. I'm using Inverno right now.

FM

Fighter of Foo 05-04-2007 08:55 AM

Seconded. Not sure how anyone plays w/o that information readily available.

I'd also like to use this post to bitch about my Christmas sched in 2008 with 3 strikers and 8 total first team players out.

A Liverpool
A Newcastle
A Chelsea
H Man Utd
A Tottenham (FA Cup)

That is all.

moriarty 05-04-2007 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FrogMan (Post 1457972)
sadly, it's a deal breaker to me... but it does look very good. I'm using Inverno right now.

FM


Agreed. I'm using Hellenic and it does what I need to do. I'm about ready for a change though.

Pumpy Tudors 05-04-2007 09:12 AM

I'd really like to jump back into this game, but I'm unemployed. Exeter sacked me, and I've had all kinds of trouble trying to find another job. I know that I could start over or create another manager, but I'd rather have "myself" find work. I want to carry over my stats and reputation (poor as they may be) from Exeter to my new club.

Ah, well. I'll just keep applying for jobs, and maybe somebody will take a shot on an American who could barely keep a promotion contender out of the relegation zone. :)

Fighter of Foo 05-04-2007 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by moriarty (Post 1458248)
Agreed. I'm using Hellenic and it does what I need to do. I'm about ready for a change though.


Evolution is also very good and will give you a different look.

SunDevil 05-04-2007 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fighter of Foo (Post 1458321)
Evolution is also very good and will give you a different look.


I can not find that skin anywhere, do you have a link.

Also I plan on managing the Wycombe Wanderers in English League 2. I also set my database to large. If I select France, Germany, Spain, Italy, and some other European nations and set them to view only what are the differences compared to not including them at all and just having the English leagues? Thanks.

st.cronin 05-05-2007 05:11 PM

Is there a mirror site for the try and buy wwsm? I'm not getting anywhere with the SI link.

Young Drachma 05-05-2007 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by highfiveoh (Post 1448084)
Does anyone play as a manager in the MLS? If so, are you having a good experience? I did some last minute research as I prepared to buy the game and ran into some deflating information. Someone mentioned that the number of Adidas Generation players dropped dramatically in the near future and that youth players were too short in general. After reading that I decided to pass as I'm only interested in playing in the MLS. It makes me wonder if similar issues exist in any of the other leagues. Sometimes it just seems like SI games try to do too much and not focus on doing certain things right all of the time.


I've tried. It's entirely too painful an experience.

DaddyTorgo 05-05-2007 07:25 PM

I'm at a point where I'm stuck. And it's good-stuck, but it's stuck. I have a core of players in their 30's who have brought me to the top (mostly 30-33 right now) and can still perform. But then I have a group of 20-25 year olds (the future) who are amazing and will be the future of my club. But I don't want to shunt the older guys aside for the kids. Hell, I just resigned 3/4 of the old guys to 7+ million dollar per year deals because I want them around.

But I suppose that's the dilemma of real managers. I just...don't know what I should do. Guess I should devise some sort of "playing time schedule" or something so everyone stays happy.

st.cronin 05-05-2007 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1459054)
Is there a mirror site for the try and buy wwsm? I'm not getting anywhere with the SI link.


2.5 hours later, up to 28%, 10 kbs/sec is my rate.

DaddyTorgo 05-05-2007 07:54 PM

ugh. There must be a mirror.

http://www.thedugout.net ?

dacman 05-05-2007 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1459054)
Is there a mirror site for the try and buy wwsm? I'm not getting anywhere with the SI link.


http://www.americansportsgamer.com/d...07elicense.exe

st.cronin 05-08-2007 06:56 PM

Thanks dacman, got it installed, fooling around now.

st.cronin 05-08-2007 11:25 PM

The demo is not patched, correct?

DaddyTorgo 05-08-2007 11:27 PM

aaah st. Cronin...we hardly knew ye. Guess we'll talk to you again in a few months when you come up for air.

finkenst 05-08-2007 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1452365)
okay...i have one complaint/suggestion

if i'm bidding for a guy with a minimum fee release clause, shouldn't the club be forced to accept it? As it is right now, the club will only accept it if you don't monkey with the transfer date or the decision deadline.

and since those two things don't alter the $$ it shouldn't matter. Basically...i ought to be able to put in a bid now that meets someone's minimum fee release clause, with a decision deadline of today and a transfer date of "end of season" and it should still be accepted. Since it meets the "minimum fee"


my recollection is that in wwsm2005, it had to be all money upfront... no payment schedule or anything... that's how i lost my star d/sw rlc for 54m pounds to arsenal.

oh yeah... i still hate MV. :)

DaddyTorgo 05-08-2007 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by finkenst (Post 1460866)
my recollection is that in wwsm2005, it had to be all money upfront... no payment schedule or anything... that's how i lost my star d/sw rlc for 54m pounds to arsenal.

oh yeah... i still hate MV. :)


I understand the "all the money up front" part. I have no issues with that. Where I have issues is the transfer date. To say I can't put in a bid that meets a clause but then not want to take that player till the end of the year, you'd think his club would actully be happy to do that. Instead it is rejected, even though it meets the minimum fee.

st.cronin 05-08-2007 11:59 PM

For TOP SECRET REASONS, I am thinking about playing in Belgium.

DaddyTorgo 05-09-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1460874)
For TOP SECRET REASONS, I am thinking about playing in Belgium.


LOL:D

FrogMan 05-09-2007 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1460861)
The demo is not patched, correct?


iirc, the demo is the try and buy and should be fully patched, especially now that the patch has been out for a little while.

Check under game status somewhere, it should read 7.0.2.

FM

st.cronin 05-09-2007 08:35 AM

mine says 7.0

FrogMan 05-09-2007 08:43 AM

weird, might be because you downloaded from a non official source. Or they simply do it that way now. Beats me...

FM

st.cronin 05-09-2007 09:05 AM

Not that its a big deal as I'm going to buy the game, but now I have to try and download something from SI again, which is always a dicey proposition.

Passacaglia 05-09-2007 12:52 PM

I'm with you. I just downloaded 6.0.3 yesterday from SI (for WSM 2006), taking several hours.

st.cronin 05-09-2007 11:26 PM

Ok, wow. 07 is a HUGE improvement.

MrBug708 05-09-2007 11:56 PM

I simmed open ended with no applying for job offers when I left my house about 10 hours ago. Im hoping for some history in theleague and starting it up. Very vanilla setup with just English league from L2 and up.

Neon_Chaos 05-10-2007 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1461545)
Ok, wow. 07 is a HUGE improvement.


We'll be seeing ya st. cronin. Holler back if you need air. Or a fresh pair of undies. :)

MrBug708 05-10-2007 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Neon_Chaos (Post 1461553)
We'll be seeing ya st. cronin. Holler back if you need air. Or a fresh pair of undies. :)


You can turn them inside out to save on washing

st.cronin 05-10-2007 03:12 PM

Ok, I never really tried this in 06, but I want to give it a go in 07, so I'm looking for advice on: SET PIECES

How should I go about setting these up?

st.cronin 05-12-2007 03:01 PM

"Try through balls"

What sort of player should be attempting this?

henry296 05-12-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1463177)
"Try through balls"

What sort of player should be attempting this?


Good passing, decisions, creativity.

st.cronin 05-12-2007 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by henry296 (Post 1463180)
Good passing, decisions, creativity.


I'm just guessing that it makes more sense to give this to somebody on your back line, right? For example a fullback?

henry296 05-12-2007 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1463187)
I'm just guessing that it makes more sense to give this to somebody on your back line, right? For example a fullback?


I tend to give it to my center mids so send through balls that spring the forwards on goal with breakaways. I good defensive midfielder would also work well.

I'm not so sure about a full-back, unless you have the play offensively.

Marc Vaughan 05-12-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1463187)
I'm just guessing that it makes more sense to give this to somebody on your back line, right? For example a fullback?


Most teams build chances from midfield - a few of the best have started building from right at the back, however to truly do this requires a really exceptional defender who is comfortable with the ball at his feet and has the vision to pick out passes as well..... these are few and far between.

For me I tend to play a 4-1-3-2 (ie. 442 with a DMC as a screen in front of the defense), my DMC is the play-maker and does the through balls etc. for me.

Why? - its safer than a defender doing it (if he's tackled there are men behind him), its easier on him than a normal midfielder (he's further back from their midfield so they're unlikely to press him as much as it he was in midfield) ... finally there are more quality defensive midfielders available in the world than any other position at this moment in time (thus they're also a little 'cheaper' than attacking midfielders transfer and wage wise) ...

Passacaglia 05-12-2007 09:23 PM

So...is there a way to be able to tell whether a player will sign for my team, before going the trouble of getting a transfer offer accepted first? I'm coaching Almansa, and no one will play for me, even players on U18 teams at my level.

Blade6119 05-12-2007 09:26 PM

When you do player search, ask your assistant to filter out unreasonable targets. That should do the trick

st.cronin 05-12-2007 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Blade6119 (Post 1463264)
When you do player search, ask your assistant to filter out unreasonable targets. That should do the trick


That doesn't always work for lower level teams. Depending on the status of your team and league, you may have to search only for players who are out of contract.

henry296 05-12-2007 10:14 PM

The scout report will also indicate how likely the player is to sign.

MJ4H 05-12-2007 10:49 PM

Only semi-on-topic but:

What do I do if I purchased FM2006 online and the only copy I have of it and my order information are both on a laptop I may not ever be able to use again?

st.cronin 05-12-2007 10:57 PM

I'm having an issue with training.

Every single player attribute is going down. I am playing in League 2, as Grimsby. According to my coach screen, I have 3 stars for aerobics and strength, 2 stars for everything else but GK (1 star). Every player is training hard in at least two areas, and every arrow is going down, even young players who aren't hurt.

What am I missing?

DaddyTorgo 05-12-2007 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1463314)
I'm having an issue with training.

Every single player attribute is going down. I am playing in League 2, as Grimsby. According to my coach screen, I have 3 stars for aerobics and strength, 2 stars for everything else but GK (1 star). Every player is training hard in at least two areas, and every arrow is going down, even young players who aren't hurt.

What am I missing?


training them too hard?

do you have any coaches?

honestly at this point, I rarely even mess with training, and I find that it tends to do a decent job if you just leave it alone, so I might not be too much help. I don't necessarily do that because I think it's "broken" or whatever, just seems...easier that way.

SirFozzie 05-12-2007 11:32 PM

Also, your training facilities might be awful

Celeval 05-13-2007 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by st.cronin (Post 1463314)
I'm having an issue with training.

Every single player attribute is going down. I am playing in League 2, as Grimsby. According to my coach screen, I have 3 stars for aerobics and strength, 2 stars for everything else but GK (1 star). Every player is training hard in at least two areas, and every arrow is going down, even young players who aren't hurt.

What am I missing?


Is that the case consistantly? Or just now?

Bear in mind that the up or down arrow is just recent movement... if you had a guy who started at 12 in an attribute, through training got to 14, then you had a run of a 2-3 games in a week, he's tired, you haven't trained as much and it drops to a 13, then you'll have a down arrow even though the training is going well overall.

Oilers9911 05-13-2007 10:27 AM

Ok, so I am managing Rushden and Diamonds and Canada. When I took over Canada we had a match scheduled against SOuth Korea on the same day as our Rushden and Diamonds home date with Northampton. So I had decided to manage Canada and leave my assistant take care of Rushden. However, somehow I managed to be in Seoul and in Irthlingborough, UK on the same day. Is this a bug? Or is it meant to let me manage both? I think in situations like that you should have to choose one or the other.

Easy Mac 05-13-2007 11:25 AM

Perhaps its my imagination, but does anyone know why my schedule is always front loaded with home games? I'm playing as Colorado, and 10 of my first 12 games are at home, which seems a bit excessive.

Marc Vaughan 05-13-2007 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Oilers9911 (Post 1463391)
Ok, so I am managing Rushden and Diamonds and Canada. When I took over Canada we had a match scheduled against SOuth Korea on the same day as our Rushden and Diamonds home date with Northampton. So I had decided to manage Canada and leave my assistant take care of Rushden. However, somehow I managed to be in Seoul and in Irthlingborough, UK on the same day. Is this a bug? Or is it meant to let me manage both? I think in situations like that you should have to choose one or the other.


Its meant to let you manage both - its not wholly 'realistic' but is a gameplay concession .... might change in the future (if enough people request it) but it doesn't affect many people and those that have had it happen in the past have generally appeared to prefer it this way.

MrBug708 05-14-2007 01:37 AM

2024 and the Euro Champs groups are:
A)
Germany
France
Italy
Spain

B)
England
Bulgaria
Portugal
Turkey

C)
Holland
Denmark
Serbia
Ireland

D)
Greece
Czech
Russia
Sweden

How Brutal is the group A? Oh man, two coaches in that group are as good as fired.

DaddyTorgo 05-14-2007 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 1463602)
Its meant to let you manage both - its not wholly 'realistic' but is a gameplay concession .... might change in the future (if enough people request it) but it doesn't affect many people and those that have had it happen in the past have generally appeared to prefer it this way.



works for me. i always think of it like "i'm there at the national team game at one time, and i have a cell phone to call my team's assistant manager who i have left in charge of the squad, and i can watch it on tv from the dressing room"

Oilers9911 05-14-2007 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Vaughan (Post 1463602)
Its meant to let you manage both - its not wholly 'realistic' but is a gameplay concession .... might change in the future (if enough people request it) but it doesn't affect many people and those that have had it happen in the past have generally appeared to prefer it this way.


Thanks Marc, that makes sense. I didn't mind managing both games but it wasn't what I expected.

DaddyTorgo 05-14-2007 09:11 AM

speaking of MV and FM...Marc...how are things going with '08? Anything you can tease us with? We're what...about 5-6 months out at this point? *drools*


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