Cloutier, being a crappy goalie, was pulled in the 1st.
his replacement Johan Hedberg DID try to fight with Aebischer - when all the players squared off after the Moore hit, Hedberg skated to center ice. Aebischer just pointed at the scoreboard.

I wonder how many times Florida is going to sign Bure, trade him, then sign him again. Pretty good racket. I was in South Florida over the weekend, and they discussed trading him at this deadline and signing him again next year (whenever next year comes...).

I watched the Avs game last night. I didn't know the history there, but the fighting was intense, early and often. I loved Peter Worrell from his Panthers days. Mo-fo just looks like he was born to kick someone's ass.

I wondered if he (Morris) was going to go - you're right, he really isn't the guy they thought they were going to be getting. and now that Liles has blossomed into a good point guy on the power play, and they've brought in guys like Suaer and Boughner, Morris was expendable.

damn, I wish we had Drury back instead though.

it was a little amusing to watch - after his first goal, he hit Aebischer, and probably should have received a minor penalty for that. a couple minutes later, he scored again, and again skated right over to Aebischer. that time, he got a 10 minute misconduct - I can only imagine what penalty he would have drawn for himself if he'd pulled off the hat trick. :D

damn - TSN.CA is getting hammered it seems. is there another good site with trade stuff as it's happening?

yeah, I've liked Worrell from the beginning. But it's funny - for all his size and toughness I don't really think he's a great fighter; I think his height and clumsiness (on skates) works against him a bit and he ends up being a being a decent fighter, but not a great one.

I just pulled up the tsn.ca trade tracker, and it's showing Tommy Salo to Colorado, but TBA on who they gave up.

damn, TSN, nice server...

I can live with Salo. I'm assuming Lacroix didn't give up the farm to get him.

Salo and 6th rounder in 2004 for Tom Gilbert.

I'd assume the Avs are mostly done now...
they've got their goalie and their size and toughness up front.
now they just need their Forsberg.

Oh crap.

Val Bure? The most un-Stars type player in the league. Crap.

I raised an eyebrow at that as well.

Cummins? As in Jim Cummins? Don't tell me that punching bag is still in the league?

Barnaby has to be one of the most over-rated players in the league. He's a sideshow. And I give him credit for being willing to drop the gloves, but the guy loses every fight he's in, and usually loses badly. You have to wonder if he doesn't actually hurt his team by going out there and getting pummeled all the time.

Haven't seen the Bertuzzi hit yes, but it sounds awful. My guess is 16 games, which would be the rest of the season plus three playoff games. That would be enough to cost him a fortune and seriously damage the Canucks playoff chances without completely derailing them.

it also might galvanize them into playing a bit better. but unless they are getting a goalie today and maybe some more scoring, none of it matters.

I was as shocked as you were to learn this. He hoped on board during training camp (when Worrell was injured) and just sort of stuck. I think he's still with the team as far as I know. I can't stand him. He is in a very special circle of hockey players "Players H_B hates even when playing for the Wings." There haven't been that many (thank god), but there are a few...

Crazy Bob's Latest Trading Flurry:

-Got D Vladimir Malakhov from the Rangers for prospect Rick Kozak and a 2005 2nd rounder.

-Traded D Chris Therien to Dallas for a 2004 8th rounder and a 2005 3rd rounder.

-Planning to acquire D Greg de Vries from NYR this afternoon.

-No immediate truth to the rumor that he was going to send St. Louis' 5th round pick back to them for Eric Weinrich. This was actually, SERIOUSLY, a rumor yesterday.

Cummins is indeed still with the Avs...and gets a great seat (press box) for every game.

Well, crap. Who am I going to rag on now while watching the Oiler games?

Rumor in Pittsburgh is Alexi Morozov to Vancouver for former 1st round pick RJ Umberger (a Pittsburgh native) who is basically holding out.

Todd

Might I suggest... Cummins? Or if you want to rag on an Oil... How about Eric Brewer? Make him the new Poti.

is Morozov a goalie now? :D

damn TSN...

I like Brewer. That won't do. I think I'll stick McTavish and Lowe as my new scapegoats.

Worrell could not skate backwards until midway through juniors.

I can't skate backwards now.
or forwards for that matter.

You should try. Once you get the hang of it it's like riding a bike or driving a car and you never even think about it. Seriously, you should give it a shot sometime.

Sad. When I was young, I had to skate to school in the morning, and backwards just to get home. ;)

it's a goal. I've kicked myself repeatedly for not learning when I was younger living in Canada. Had a friend who played and was willing to teach me to skate - just didn't have the patience.

finally can get to TSN. the Avs gave up Keith Ballard along with Morris in the Gratton/Vaananen which makes it seem like way too steep a price...

oh well.

If anyone is wondering, this isn't a joke. Worrell really couldn't skate in junior (he played in Hull, which is just outside of Ottawa).

Full credit to the guy, he worked hard and turned himself into enough of a player that he's made a living in the NHL.

I've always liked Morris.. I think this is too steep a price too.

Apparently the 6th round pick is in 2005, not 2004 as originally reported.

Please, somebody tell me this Gilbert kid is an upcoming phenom. I mean, I know Salo hasn't been on the top of his game, but considering we couldn't get the kid for him straight up and had to toss in a draft pick to get the deal done, I'm really hoping Lowe is seeing something here.

former 5th round pick.

http://www.hersheypa.com/events/hers...s/gilbert.html

Canucks looking at Ron Francis?
that would be a great fit, IMO.

Leafs too...

First the Leafs get Calle Johnansson, now they're looking at Ron Francis?

I guess someone gave Ferguson a copy of NHL 95 for his birthday.

you forgot Brian Leetch

The Leafs sign.......Calle Johansson...AHAHAHAH...that is funny....purely a depth move...he may not even get into a game.

Bertuzzi will be suspended for at least the remainder of the season...if not longer.

What's the story on Morris.....Why did the Avs give up on him?

Old players are the way forward. 37+ are the key. That way, when you actually sign or trade for a player who is say, 33, you feel like you're getting a young kid, just ready to enter his prime. You're all like "33? Damn, he's still got another good 8-10 years left. What a steal!"

What is this Bertuzzi thing? I haven't seen it.. or even heard about it.. :(

Rob Ray STILL can't skate backwards.....or forwards for that matter:)

Click here for footage of his attack on Colorado's Steve Moore.

we need a trade thread .this one takes too long to load

omg... did Moore do anything to Bertuzzi before that? If he didn't, Bertuzzi should definitely be suspended for the rest of the season and part of the playoffs too.

If Moore did something to Bertuzzi, Todd should still be suspended.. but maybe just the regular season. Must suck for Moore to glide his face on the ice like that too... :(

Actually, I bet the next time he sees Brashear coming Ray will be skating backwards very quickly.

all stems back to moores hit on naslund 2 weeks ago that gave him a concussion.

bertuzzi should be suspended until well into the playoffs. that was awful, and embarassing for the sport.

I heard Marc Crawford yelling about that hit. Moore didn't get punished much for it, did he?

Leafs claim Chad Kilger off waivers

Hah! Kilger! One of the men involved in the Selanne trade with the Jets... I remember putting Kilger on my 1st line in NHL 97 (or maybe 98?), trying to make him something special... it didn't work. :(

no, moore was never punished.

well, until yesterday...