You're right let's kill 'em.

A Scanner Darkly, one in every seven people is watching the other six...

We need all four just to deal with you.

How else am I supposed to set up a police state?

I think I'd be perfect for the government building if social skill is important. I don't think mine can be topped in this game. Plus I'm pretty good physically. If you think JAG would be better somewhere else.

Just say the word Dictator...er Leader Fontisian :)

If I remember correctly, wasn't one of the law enforcement types mentioned that they were a bit more physical in their police activities than was condoned? I can't remember which one.

britrock

Crimson, you've been quiet today. What's up with that!?

Thoughts on replacing JAG or Jackal with Suicane?

Well, I know Jackal is an excellent engineer, but has poor physical skills. JAG is decent in physical if I remember right.

What exactly does Suicane's high social skill do with building the government would be my question? If it helps to have someone who is potentially charismatic or could be a good politician, it's a good move.

Do we have an engineer other than Jackal free? He was the professor, might not have a lot else to offer besides that for the construction.

Looks like not really.

I don't know, it's still a building, should still require similar skills to build it I would think, even if the building's function is different.

Keep in mind that the medical center is also a building.

May as well throw 3 idle people to attend to Danny. Even if they have low medical scores, it has got better than none.

I have below avg medical skills which may be higher than most of our non-medical staff. DanG seems to have similar.

But that takes those people away from the medical facility.

Yeah, I don't have any idea what the skills required for governmet building are. But If someone is going on there with a combo of social and physical skills, I feel like I might be best man in that regard.

Sorry... I wasn't clear. How big is the other spaceship compared to our landing craft?

:D

From a distance it looked like it might have been a similar size.

True, and that would make sense to have medical people working on it. I'm ok if you change your mind, I don't feel that strongly either way I guess.

What do we know about the passenger manifest? Anyone?

I'm intrigued by the fact that the government building has been completed and yet it hasn't affected me in any way. Font, did you have options given to you regarding it's use and/or staffing last night.

Then it probably should have been me...

Eagle pretty much said that it prevents bad things happening, not that it gave any additional bonuses. that's how I read it anyway.

All seems to be going swimmingly at the moment. Apart from people dying and stuff. Have a good weekend.

I can review things in more detail later this weekend but is it odd that both kills so far have been colonists who have not been active at all? If it is the work of our stowaway then he/she is most interested in the gameplay aspect. Why kill those that are not active while other more aware targets are out there. It may also mean we are not affecting their status within the colony at all since they are sitting back and cherry picking the weakest. If they were pressured the actions may be more drastic. We need that communications up and going.

Food for thought: I'm not 100% sure we have had night kills.

I had a similar thought..

Just following up on that.

Schmidty was found a good 12 hours after the Day One deadline. Danny was found about 2 hours after the Day Three deadline.

I get the sense these deaths weren't night kill options by our stowaway, but an ability he has, given certain conditions or perhaps a certain number of times. Or it is even possible it is not the stowaway, but another among us, with a secret ability (although I would have to see much more evidence for that before I would accept that).

I don't think it is coincidence that the two that died were in poor health.

Am behind in this game but I'm at a loss for what's going on. It makes no sense to me. If those two were killed just because they were inactive then why wasn't it announced that way. And the Danny one was extra weird. WHy didn't it happen at lynchtime.
But I can't see a wolf or whatever targetting an inactive player. Except for the fact that they were already injured. That is the only thing I can think.

It did seem like they had accidents BECAUSE they were inactive. Frick I don't know.

If they were mod kills, they would've been in red. EF's blue text is a result of colonist action. So someone killed them, other than their health, it's hard to understand why.

Just an FYI, I have two interviews Monday, so it's going to be a little while before I can look into things too deeply.

so is chief better yet? is he even stabilized?
Maybe the EMT should patch him up some more.

I think getting Chief back to top health is a priority. Maybe he can find out more about his interrogation.

Update for Day 4 decisions..

Fontisian (LEADER) – SOCIAL (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), MEDICAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD), college history professor
DanGarion – SOCIAL (GREAT) PHYSICAL (GOOD) MEDICAL (BELOW AVERAGE), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), SCIENTIFIC (AWFUL) lead large group of succ. people. "well liked", Democratic
Zinto - CEO
Suicane - PHYSICAL (GOOD), retired politician with history of public service
Crimsonfox – SOCIAL (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD?) , SCIENTIFIC (BELOW AVERAGE) , automechanic,
timmae (PRIMARY SCIENTIST) – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GOOD), PHYSICAL (AWFUL) studied science his whole life, "engineering type"
Raven – SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (GOOD) farmer. strong science background.
Narcizo – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (OK), MEDICAL (OK) PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE) chemist. bit of experience running small scale facility
SharkN20, SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD) ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), PHYSICAL (AWFUL), professional gamer that used my life to develop your skills
GoldenEagle – SCIENTIFIC (GREAT), ENGINEERING (GREAT)computer programmer, proposes deep analysis for scientific purposes
Autumn – MEDICAL (GREAT) doctor and chief of staff at Boston general
Chief Rum (PRIMARY DOCTOR) – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (AWFUL) worked in ER
ntndeacon – MEDICAL (GREAT), ENGINEERING (BAD) EMT, but not a doctor
bitrock – PHYSICAL (GREAT) SOCIAL (GOOD), (MEDICAL) ENGINEERING (AWFUL) police officer. record isn't perfect, and physical capability can sometimes cloud higher-order processes.
thomkal (SHERRIFF) – SOCIAL (GREAT), PHYSICAL (GREAT), MEDICAL (LOW), ENGINEERING (BELOW AVERAGE), SCIENTIFIC (BELOW AVERAGE)retired Army general. primary concerns safety
shoveler - Private investigator
JAG – PHYSICAL (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), highschool football coach. experience leading and training
Jackal – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SCIENTIFIC (GOOD), PHYSICAL (BELOW AVERAGE) MIT Prof of Engineering
Grover (PRIMARY ENGINEER) – ENGINEERING (GOOD), SCIENTIFIC(GOOD), PHYSICAL (AVERAGE) 2 yrs as engineer on ISS. prof. astronaut, enginer and scientist by trade. leader of ISS mission. has lived in space
saldana – ENGINEERING (GREAT), SOCIAL (GOOD), pHYSICAL (AVERAGE), MEDICAL (BAD), SCIENTIFIC (BAD) city planner

Decisions for the research teams is to be among the following items:

Scientific Team
- Decide Research (offensive, new technology, agricultural improvements for the biodome)

Looking for input from the group. My thoughts:

Offensive - If we start research now, then engineering can complete work in a few days. We'd be able to explore the other craft then.

New technology - Not sure what to think... this could help any of a hundred different ways. Less focused and therefore more risky.

Agricultural improvement - Between supplies and the biodome do we need additional food improvements right now?

We need to get Chief better... he needs to be at 100%.

Does it make sense that the medical facility was not finished? I am not quite sure who was working on that... is it just we didn't have enough people on it?

I couldn't find anything on who was working on the project. It may have just been a dice roll.

Grover: The researchers spent time on defense so that we could have protection for the colony. Why the focus on tools? I'd like to know more regarding your position.

Because I believe that improving tools could improve a wide range of options for the colony along all assets. From the Biodome, to the Research Center to the Medical Center. It could even include weaponry, telemetry, anything that can help us on the surface.

But if the group thinks we would be better served improving the defensive designs, I am certainly willing to listen and consider any proposals.

In the voting result... (doesn't mean who was working on it but who was assigned to it; which by default for the voted action it will be anyone not specified to another project)

If anyone has actions of their own it will not show up in the results and will only be revealed if discovered or if the person(s) tell the group.

I vote for offensive research and start to look around.

First of all I have to say that I found the manifest, somebody hyde it and I will give it to Fontisian, I think that in the hands that this information has to be is in our leader´s. The gun also should be in our leader´s belt.

Vote Action: Gather the remain of supplies.

Okay then, I'm waiting for a response before commenting on what options the creation of the government have given me and the like. I also am waiting for shoveler to comment definitively on whether he is our interrogator or not before assigning deputies. Both JAG and Britrock have said they are not.

As for healing Chief Rum, I'd like to see him stay sidelined until fully healed but that's not my decision.

-my suggestion for the scientific team is offensive research, though the new technology is intriguing.

-my suggestion for Grover would be to design defenses for the colony

-my choice for action would be repair communications or explore flatlands but haven't made my mind up yet which one to vote for.

I may (or not) have more info later, so stay tuned and don't ask me questions unless they are about whatever projects you may be working on, until I comment more about what I know.

Sharkn, is there anything about the manifest you can reveal that will help us narrow down the candidates for our stowaway?

You have the manifest? Can you tell us what is on it? This could be extremely important? Is it a passenger log?

Why are you so willing to say that fontisian should have the gun? I know we need to know more about who harshly interrogated Chief Rum, but shouldn't the sheriff ideally have the gun? Giving it to the leader could give her too much power.

Shark... Thanks for taking the list to font for review. Appreciate your openness and honesty. The same cannot be said for many of our group.

Yeah we have to be together in order to survive in Mars, maybe this is the begginig of the group cohesion, who nows...

I had the possibility to have three secrets with no names attached, or three names with no secrets attached... So maybe our leader can figure it out better who to use this information...

We selected the leader for a reason Grover, so we have (In theory) to believe in her...

Thinking about different mechanics within the game... anyone think we have a seer who can interrogate the answer out? Maybe one of the law enforcement types? Makes sense on Chief but maybe not on Danny.

Nevermind that last post... figuring this thing out on the fly.

Well, I didn't vote for her, but that's beside the point. Do we want to be giving all authority, physical and otherwise to one singular person? Are we going to be a democracy or a dictatorship? What kind of world do you want to live in?

In Falling Skyes worked fine... hahaha :popcorn:

The Government building gave me a onetime Duke ability to control the vote.

That actually helps illustrate a larger point: if I wasn't thoroughly on the town's side, I could have done a lot damage by now. Instead, we have three buildings built, the beginnings of scientific research and a security force, and we've only lost the two inactive. It may not be perfect, but it could be much worse.

Just reading the Mine Wars - Battle of Blair Mountain. Bull Moose Special on post #2389. Now I get it... that must've sucked hard Poli!

Sorry, I didn't realize you had asked for verification on this topic. Interrogating an individual under duress via beating them up badly is not a technique employed by private investigators.

Why exactly are we assuming one of the sheriff candidates is responsible? Didn't we already come to the conclusion that we have at least one person that is probably holding themselves out to be something they are not? It just seems to obvious to narrow this down to the four or five (I forget off hand) people that ran for Sheriff. I guess it makes sense from the evidence presented, but it just seems to easy.

I was crying with laughter after reading post #3387 and the next 10 or so posts.

Oscar time!

how do we see number of posts by individuals in a certain thread?

you go here: Werewolf Games - Front Office Football Central

then click on the number 1576 to the right of the thread. A popup appears.

10-4... thanks CF.

timmaaaaaaaaaaaae!

Change Engineering Project from Tools to Improved Defenses

I have a feeling that this is what everybody is going to gravitate to, so I will make it my design priority.

I won't be around much today so I'll get these out now so I don't get punished

vote gather supplies

I think researching offence is the way to go today. If we ever want to explore we'll need something to protect the scouts with. if the other scientists want to go a different way then that's fine.

research offense

We 3 are in for O# this time :)

Love it when we are on the same page! Interested to hear what others think also.

Where is everybody!?

Engineering...I believe we should Improve the Defenses (sorry, Grover)
Science...I kinda leave that in the hands of the scientists

If there was someone to heal besides myself, I would choose to work (and heal slower). But since I am the only one hurt right now, it seems better to convalesce and not do anything and let Autumn/ntn/whoever do their work.

FWIW, the level of healing I received, if I received it again, would be more than enough to get me to full health, presuming there aren't other factors that are changed today from Day Three.

No need to apologize. I have changed my plans to Defense. I should have thought of it first anyway, especially since timmae's crew worked hard to get that part done.

On the matter of my interrogator, I do not believe that person is the stowaway. He/she may even regret the action, as I believe it was only made in an effort to find the stowaway.

In my mind, it is all good, and I would rather we focused our efforts on finding the stowaway rather than the interrogator.

I actually like Improving Tools, as I think we can build projects faster with those. It's definitely something to consider for future votes.

Obviously, I think Defense will be necessary sooner than later.

I still feel we need to get more supplies in case something bad happens and we can't rely on our buildings.

Fairly quiet weekend, but that's okay, given that it makes for a three-day "day."

For us normal folk, looks like the only thing for us to vote on today is our action. I'll break them out from EF's post just for aesthetics' sake.

Actions:
- extra effort on repairing communications
- finish gathering supplies
- search the flatlands
- (very risky) search the heat source in the NE
- (risky) search the 1st mission landing site in the SE

And for context...

Attachment 5462

Why the focus on gathering supplies versus getting communications back up? The more we know about the colonists the better chance we have of finding the stowaway, right? Or is that too "easy" of a direction to proceed?