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The beauty of the Center Ice Package is threefold:
1. I get to watch pretty much all Wings games. 2. I get to watch Hockey Night in Canada again 3. I get to watch all the other games. I watched HNiC tonight. Such a joy. The music. The production values. Coaches Corner. Leo Racicot and Lighting Boutique commercials. I have noticed in the first few days that both HNiC games and TSN games do a much better job than all other broadcasts at getting a good balance on the sound. Both TSN and HNiC have mikes that capture the crowd noise and rink-level noise. The announcers fit nicely into the background. The rest of the broadcasts, however, barely pipe in any crowd/rink noise, so you're left with listening only to a couple of announcers with the sounds of the game off in the far, far distance. Grapes was great tonight. Back in mid-season form already. Great suit. Great tie. Bitching about how Wellwood got sent to the AHL while the Leafs kept a bunch of young Europeans up. He also mentions how the Leafs have drafted only one Canadian in the last two years. That was just the start of it. A great segment. |
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Though despite my initial response, you have to be happy with how well Bondra is playing. If he's going like that and you have Hossa and Kovalchuck... Atlanta could have one of the most potent offensese in the league. Not too many teams anymore can boast three pure goal scorers like that. Many don't even have one. |
yeah, production values for HNIC are just amazing. lots of subtle things that you didn't see on ESPN. and, of course, the best theme music of all time. my favorite day of the year is when they start at like noon and spend the entire day doing stories about hockey, capped off by a couple of games between canadian teams.
fun Avs game tonight. Stars tie the game with about 8 minutes left. not long after that, Hinote checks Arnott into the glass. it's clean, but Arnott catches the metal and gets cut pretty badly. Bill "Longneck" Guerin comes after Hinote, as does Arnott. Laperriere comes to Hinote's rescue, cancelling Guerin's penalty. Arnott gets the only fighting major (Hinote didn't fight back) and an instigator to boot. Avs get a 7 minute power play with 6:30 to play and capitalize on it. Even without Arnott's gift, the Avs looked much better tonight. I really like Marek Svatos. Peter Budaj looked pretty good for the Avs tonight. |
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Caps do suck, but I do think Atlanta is going to the playoffs this year. |
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It's called, what, Hockey Day In Canada, I think? It's a great thing. Treats hockey like it should be treated. |
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and, at least in the past, Center Ice has carried the whole day. |
Oilers undefeated! 82-0 baby! (Wait. Are they still playing 82 games?)
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I am about tired of Ulanov. I don't think he is going to make it all season, or at least he should not if he doesn't get it together quickly. |
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I was tired of Ulanov about 40 years ago. He did score some clutch goals down the stretch last season, but they still didn't make the playoffs, so I don't know how clutch they could be considered. He doesn't really bring anything to the table execpt "big" hits and a moderate shot from the point and IMO, he makes too many defensive blunders to overlook for the occasional bone crunching hit. He's always the second to go when I play the Oilers in EHM (Conklin being the first). |
I thought Ulanov had a valuable role last season. Now he seems to be having a tough time dealing with the "new NHL."
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Well, according to MacTavish, he can substitue any player on his other 3 lines into the 1st without missing a beat. :rolleyes: I guess we'll see with Smyth out for a couple of games at least. Ulanov is what, 68 years old now? I think he was drafted by the Jets for crying out loud. That's friggin old, time to let the kids play. Oh, wait. We traded them all for Pronger. |
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Initially, I was unhappy about Chris Pronger because I hated the way he used to play. He was a guy who bent the rules every chance he had. He is still just as solid playing a clean game so far. He has made a believer out of me at this point. |
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Hmm... my Center Ice showed that as starting at 4:00pm. |
Nice. 2-0 already for the Wings.
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Wings shoulda had another PP too.
Holmer got mugged. |
Wow. The Wings just outshot Calgary 22-4 in the first period.
It's 3-0. The Wings have gone 3/7 on the powerplay. |
And all those penalities were legit. Two double minors for high sticks.
Don't blame em on the rules. |
Brutal.
You hear that creaking noise? It's the bandwagon starting to collapse. |
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You know, as much as I like to see the Wings win 6-3, and I love it, Kipper is my fantasy goalie. If only they had scored 6 on someone else. Oh well... I am really enjoying watching this team play. It's taking some getting used to, all the new names, but I must say I like watching guys like Franzen, Cleary, Samuelsson, and the like, more than I did Brett Hull and Steve Thomas. Lilja has been playing very well along side Lidstrom. I like that pairing a lot. Franzen seems to be a very good fit with Draper and Maltby. Datsyuk and Zetterberg are playing as advertised. Shanahan is playing his best hockey in a few years. And the most forgotten man on the Wings roster, Robert Lang, has been stellar. It's only three games in and there is a ton of hockey yet to be played (a ton), but so far, so good for the Wings. |
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I watched the game Saturday, but skipped Coach's Corner... I'm still greatly annoyed at his antics from the last season of Coach's Corner. Grapes is great when he sticks to hockey... when he gets all political and pissy about French Canadians & Europeans he's an idiot I'm ashamed is the figure head for such a great broadcast. |
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I've loved Don Cherry since I was a wee lad. While I agree wholeheartedly, that he comes off as a major idiot when starts wandering down that political and pissy path about French Canadaians and Europeans, I'm usually just much more amused than angry or irritated. Perhaps it's because I'm not Canadian, but I just can't take the guy seriously. Just look how he dresses. I think of his rants like something you'd hear on pro wrestling. Just a bunch of piss and wind there to be enjoyed. |
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The way he dresses is cool. It just goes to show that people do have a problem with people who go out of the mainstream. People look for any reason to discard you, even your choice of clothing.
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I thought he had a point. They keep big guys who don't score instead of giving a chance to Kyle Wellwood, who scores goals. In today's NHL, Kyle Wellwood may be much more valuable than big guys who will be pylons. |
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That's how I used to take him... I think the turning point came when he did his French Canadian thing last season, and then Cuthbert got fired. As much as I once enjoyed Coach's Corner, if I had to pick where CBC should spend their money from a strictly hockey POV it would be on Cuthbert. But Cherry is a ratings bonanza so what do I know. The other problem I have with what hes says is that he says it on a public broadcast station, not on a private one. Personally I think his prejudice crap shouldn't be allowed on the CBC... he he stuck with hockey fine, but he tends to sprinkle his amazing knowledge of the game with stupidity. As well the whole Quebec wanting to seperate thing, and at the same time you have the CBC employing a guy who thinks they are all babies. It's inappropriate, IMO. And don't even get me started on him being a Top 10 canidate of the Greatest Canadian... if any of you American guys come apon a Canadian calling Americans idiots... just point that little tidbit out, it should shut them up. I'm curious did he say anthing about what Avery said a few weeks ago? Quote:
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OH MY GOD! The Leafs freakin' suck!!! They have no defence!!! Berg is an idiot!!! Kaberle refuses to shoot the puck!!! Pat Quinn attracts pucks to his head!!! Allison & Lindros should NEVER be allowed to be in the shoot-out because they CAN'T SKATE!!! Wellwood is the only player on the team who deserves to be there, and what did they do at the start of the season? Put him in the AHL!!!! Arghhhhh!!!!
Quinn for god's sake throw Domi in the shoot-out next time, at least he can skate... and it might throw the goali off or something... otherwise besides Wellwood you have no viable options!!! Arghhhh!!!!! I'm really sorry Belfour, you deserve so much more!!!! ---- End rant... I will now drink my sorrows away, see you all later! |
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Hey, at least you get to watch hockey tonight. Some of us are in markets that got blacked out :(
Not that I would have been watching the game intently all night with playoff baseball on, but it would be nice to have something to flip back and forth between or PIP. SI |
Good thing the Flames have the best D in the league and the best player in the world.
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There is a team up north you could start cheering for. 82-0 baby!!! :) |
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well that was kind of fun. nice to see Darren McCarty again, even if it was just for a millisecond as he was getting tossed. so, what do the Flames have against Laaksonen? |
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I'm pretty encouraged by the last 2 Avs games. The young guys are looking good - Svatos, Liles and Woljski especially. Turgeon, someone I've always liked, has done pretty well, especially on the power play. Brisebois, someone I've always disliked, has surprised me in his own end. I haven't had to call him "Pyl...er, Cones" yet. They still need to shake the nasty habit of getting a lead and then coasting, something that's plagued them for years. |
I don't suppose someone would like to clue in clueless me as to the plyons-cones thing?
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all I know is RPI-Fan seems to be hellbent on getting his message out that pylons should be called cones. I'm humoring him, even though he is totally wrong, mostly because I feel bad for anyone who has to spend time in Troy. |
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McCarty looks kind of silly with that weird, billy-goat goatee thing he has on his chin. He needs to do something about that. |
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Glad you feel better....i just want to remind you its 3 games in.....We TIED the consensus best team in the NHL twice, and lost a very entertaining 1 goal game to Montreal....we are without our best player, Mats Sundin, and Jeff O'neal for most of these games...Belfour has played bad, and the Aki Berg/Wade Belak pairing has been horrible.......overall, i think you maybe overreacting a bit ;) |
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I tend to do that after the Leafs loose :)... I still stand by my opinions of Berg, our defence, and our ability to win the shoot-out. As for Belfour, he hasn't played great... but alot of the goals he's been giving up, I can't really blame on him since the defence has just left him high and dry for the most part. |
Two ties and a loss, against teams that are all undefeated, is not bad. It's not good, but it's not bad. It amazes me how all the experts had the Leafs losing last night by something like 8-1, yet when they pull off a third-period comeback to get a point (on the road!) those same experts still trash them.
That said, the following Leafs are officially in danger of joining the Benoit Hogue Memorial Shit-list: - Aki Berg (one foot in the door) - Wade Belak (play your three shifts, get into your one fight, and get the hell of the ice please) - Jason Allison (SKATE! Just SKATE! You must know how to skate, right?) |
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of course they wouldn't be undefeated if you had won no would they :D Enjoy trailing the Sabres in the standings, you'll get used to it :p |
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Ok, we can call their two losses, ties if you want... but they lost, they still got one point, but they lost. I'll agree the Leafs are playing decent, and like always they are over achieving... on paper they have no business competing with Ottawa, but they are, and I'm happy about that. But if Ottawa "won" those games instead of the Leafs "losing" them, then I wouldn't be all pissy :). And the fact that Quinn is still putting Lindros & Allison in the shoot-out is ridiculus! |
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TSN & OLN are broadcasting the Stars\Coytoes game tonight... which leads me to believe that tonight will be our (Canadians) first look at the OLN broadcast, since when ESPN & TSN broadcast the same games in the past TSN would use ESPN's feed.
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Allison on the other hand is just about a lost cause. I didn't think it could get any worse after that first attempt, but last night looked like something you'd try in bantam. He's awful. I thought Wellwood was an inspired choice. I'd still like to see Czerkawski give it a try -- after all, if he can't score when he's all alone then what did we sign him for? |
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Wellwood was amazing last year down here, and he was almost unstoppable in shoot-outs, and on penalty shots. His big knock has always been that he's too small... but with the new rules that goes out the window, and on the penalty shot it shouldn't matter either. The two givens on the team for the shoot-out have to be Sundin & Welly, you can mix in Lindross, O'Neil, Czerkawski, Tucker and even Domi & Allison on the last shot... but for god's sake leave them to the last shot... don't put one of the other guys last. |
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OMG! Are they doing this on purpose? My comunity cable station does a better job with the camera in QMJHL games then this. They're so close to the play that any time the puck moves the camara has to jerk to a new position, which means the majority of the game is just one big blur. The onscreen graphics are horrible, especially when they overlay stats on a crowd shot... it looks like all the lights are off in the arena. I don't really have a problem with the score being on the bottom of the screen, but it would look a lot better if it was directly on the bottom, and full screen... like a sports ticker. Or at least have the scores on top of each other like this: OLN PHO 0 TIME DAL 0 The NHL can't catch a break, the minute they drasticlly improve their on ice product, they're then left with a cable broadcast in the US that is almost not worth watching. Why couldn't the NHL just work out a deal with OLN & TSN that would have TSN do all the cable broadcasts... and then just have OLN pick-up the games they wanted to? |
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Apparently so. It's so bad that I've just turned the game off, I'll watch the baseball game until The Office comes on... then it's back to the baseball game. I never thought in million years that I'd pick a baseball game over a hockey game this season... THANKS OLN!!!! |
So I flipped over to the Stars/Coyotes game during intermission of the Toronto game. I spent the next five minutes swearing and banging buttons on my remote, trying to figure out how I'd accidentally locked my set into "zoom" mode. Then I realized that, no, that's just how OLN is broadcasting the game...
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it really is bad on so many levels. really, "bad" doesn't even come close to covering it. it truly is something you have to see to believe. I can't bear to watch it, although I do like to flip to it from time to time and picture Gary Bettman watching it and thinking it's great coverage. |
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You would think that if the NHL employeed people with brains they'd have stepped in by now and tell OLN to clean up their act. But that would be asking too much from Bettman and company. |
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The Leafs rule!!! They are the best team ever!!!! :D |
Ugh. The Hawks are just killing me. I have no idea how they have more shots than the Blues as it seems like most of their chances are awful. Then they give up golden chances to the Blues. That said, Khabibulin has only has 21 shots on goal tonight and has let through 4 yet again. :(
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According to NHL.com, the Habs took a bench penalty in tonight's game for "Refusal to Play". Anyone have any idea what happened?
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Leafs suck :D Hey, maybe you'll finally get a W... in the 4TH GAME OF THE SEASON HAHAHA! :D |
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my goaltending tandem of Khabibulin and Kiprusoff is looking STELLAR! |
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For some reason this makes me think of a post that had something to do with the Sabres, math, and logic... but I don't really know for sure. |
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Well, I don't think anyone will ever mistake me with someone who was thrilled with the move to shove Thibault out the door. Granted, all he's done this year is give up 5 and then get hurt but that's better than Khabibulin has done SI |
OLN sucks so far, no doubt about it, but I'm going to give them time. It's not an easy sport to broadcast, and it was sort of alast minute thing.
But don't try to do the cut-away interviews during the action. I don't care who the fudge it is, I want to watch the game, and shrinking it down to half size with 4 minutes left in a 3-1 game is asking for my fist through the screen. Oh, and Stars win! |
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BREAKING NEWS!!!!!! The people of Toronto are no longer in danger....The sky has stopped falling!!!!! :p |
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... untill the next loss. :) |
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Any other Edmonton fans (or those interested) figure that another solid game from Jussi and anything less than a spectacular start from Conklin in the back to back games this weekend would be enough to make Jussi the regular starter in Edmonton? Considering his lack of preseason work due to injury, Jussi has looked really strong (aside from his assist on the Perry goal against the Ducks) while Conklin has given up more weak goals than quality ones.
Or does MacT stand by his commitment to giving Conklin time to show that he can be a true #1? Can we afford for him to travel that road with an alternative like Markannen on the bench? |
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Who knows with MacTavish. Personally I would go with Markannen as #1, and probably would have from the start of season, but I've just never fell into the Conklin-as-a-#1 camp. If I was in complete control, I would have traded for a true #1 in the offseason...that, and get a number #1 center, as those are the two positions that are really going to affect the playoff race for the Oilers. |
Flames signed Bryan Marchment today.
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I'm not an Edmonton fan, but... Last night the announcers were saying how MacTavish was vehemently defending his position of not having a #1 goalie... so I think it'll take more than a game or two to change his mind. |
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Funny how everybody's teams in the preseason, Philly & Calgary, keep making their defense bigger and SLOWER with each acquisition. |
Sigh. The Thrashers better be able to score like they did over the weekend, first Lehtonen goes down for a month with a groin injury & now Dunham had to leave in the 1st period with the same damn thing :(
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we know you want Mika :D |
Wallin of Carolina just scored on his own net during a delayed penalty! Was watching it live on Center Ice in complete disbelief...
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I still don't understand how we (Rangers) gave up Jussi so easily. Granted we have a lot of goalie prospect depth, but he's a quality goalie who was given away for much too little. |
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Dunham is out because of Lehtonan's groin? |
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Ba-dum-bump. Meanwhile, young Garnett has been standing on his head for 2+ periods, giving up just one goal. Sadly, the team that got 15 goals in 2 nights vs Washington (w/out Ilya) has been blanked for 58 minutes (w/Ilya), by a rookie goalie no less |
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Eh, well. The Canes smoked the Caps otherwise, so no biggy. The more I watch Staal, the more impressed I get. He just seems to have the knack for moving the puck to the right place (it's his job, so it shouldn't come as a surprise, but still). I'm going to miss the free Center Ice now that it's over after tonight, but frankly I don't have the time or money to sit down and watch to my heart's content. |
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Atlanta is one of my Top 5 favorite teams (lived there for a little while), and since their fate usually doesn't affect that of the Islanders, I can root for them almost all the time. They got reemed in that Heatley trade, and now goaltending seems to be more and more of a problem. Meanwhile, tonight, they ran into Cam Ward who is on fire right now, but still they didn't have a lot of pressure on the net. I wonder if Hartley will soon go to a Kovalchuk-Savard-Hossa line. *drool* ~rpi-fan |
I think you're getting Atlanta and Washington mixed up. The Caps were the ones who got beat down by the Canes and Cam Ward.
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Not the NHL, but apparently, according to the game I went to tonight, in the QMJHL... a goalie can stop a breakaway by running towards the puck & player, the player can't score because once they make contact it's interference. :rolleyes:
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BTW, nice win. Ward looks phenomenal, and my Isles barely snuck past the 'Canes b/c of him. Staal and Cole are absolutes horse out there (they're like twins, IMO), and you guys have a good team if you can keep your 2nd & 3rd liners healthy. |
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I hope Staal's brother has his style and dedication of play. And I'll miss Center Ice too. Funny how I'm going to miss all this extra hockey, when I don't even bother to check out the Islander and Devil games I have access to. More likely its not the actual hockey I'll miss...but the ability to put on Ovechkin, Crosby, etc for a few mins to get some peeks. |
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Good luck with Staal's brother, but I'm not sure how much you'll get out of him. He doesn't play very physical, but he also isn't all that skilled offensively. Unless his skating is/gets really good, he won't have many strong assets, as where in the past his long reach and height would give him leverage out front, he won't get that advantage any more with the new rules. |
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Not a penaly shot, just a normal breakaway during the game... bottom line is that it shouldn't have been a penalty. The player was on a breakaway, the goalie was left high and dry, so he comes out past the hash marks to do a poke check... the player tries to get around him, but by this time that's impossible... then the ref calls interference. I'll go back to my suggestion from last year... there should be a secondary crease that makes a rectangle around the net, from the hash marks to the boards. If the goalie is within that he can't be touched, if he ventures outside of that he is fair game... |
Caron had the SAVE OF THE YEAR in the Pittsburgh game.
Absolutely no doubt that this save will stand as best save of the year. I suggest watching sportscenter or something to see it. And of course, Crosby with another goal and assist. |
Going to the Isles @ Philly tomorrow... any suggestions for body armor to wear?
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Well, all the Toronto and Atlanta fans around here should have lots to talk about over the next little while...
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I have lost all respect for the Atlanta Organization. Cheap shot after cheap shot. 3 seperate attempts to injure. Headhunting, cheap shots. Pathetic. I hope the NHL sends a message to these thugs |
Johnny or ML, can ya give me some more info?
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