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Edward64 01-03-2018 11:55 PM

Yes, the Trump-Bannon thing should be fascinating and very entertaining.

Ben E Lou 01-04-2018 05:38 AM

Per some reports, Wolff has tapes of his interviews with Bannon. :popcorn:

digamma 01-04-2018 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 3190549)
If you read the linked article, though, it's not 'just' a non-disclosure agreement. It's apparently also a "non-disparagement" agreement.

In other words, "you're not allowed to disclose what happens, but neither are you allowed to say anything that would make us look bad."

So they can go after him and say "he's a lying liar who lies, and he's in breach because he's passing off his defamatory lies as inside baseball, so he's doubly in breach."

Which doesn't matter a whit to the truth of what he's saying, but it gives them some cover to go after him while still pushing back against his specific claims.


It's all a show. They won't go after him more formally for a lot of reasons.

cartman 01-04-2018 08:53 AM

No way they get to the point of filing a lawsuit. Can you just imagine what would come out in discovery?

jeff061 01-04-2018 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 3190563)
No way they get to the point of filing a lawsuit. Can you just imagine what would come out in discovery?


Yep, this is what I was thinking.

Thomkal 01-04-2018 09:57 AM

US to end policy that let legal pot flourish

ISiddiqui 01-04-2018 10:01 AM

It's going to be fun when the states that have legalized pot stymie any attempts by the feds to enforce those laws - and when juries engage in jury nullification.

BBT 01-04-2018 10:02 AM

But, state’s rights...:confused:

Thomkal 01-04-2018 10:03 AM

yeah I'm sure this had nothing to do with California just legalizing pot...

BishopMVP 01-04-2018 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3190574)
yeah I'm sure this had nothing to do with California just legalizing pot...

This is Jeff "I thought the KKK guys were alright until I learned they smoked pot" Sessions - I'm just surprised it hadn't happened already.

panerd 01-04-2018 10:41 AM

Seems like a horrible issue to do battle on. I thought this was something most of the country didn't worry about anymore? What percentage of the GOP voters care about pot anymore?

Atocep 01-04-2018 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by panerd (Post 3190579)
Seems like a horrible issue to do battle on. I thought this was something most of the country didn't worry about anymore? What percentage of the GOP voters care about pot anymore?


51% of the GOP support legal Marijuana.

cartman 01-04-2018 10:53 AM

One Republican Senator isn't happy with Sessions.

Colorado Republican vows to retaliate against Sessions for legal pot crackdown

Thomkal 01-04-2018 10:53 AM

I'm sure that number will become like 20% if Trump speaks/tweets about it

Thomkal 01-04-2018 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3188916)
As of this afternoon the last Virginia House race recount shows the Dem ahead by one vote.


The Democrats last legal challenge failed...and the name drawn was the ...Republican

bob 01-04-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3190456)
Great question. I REALLY don't want to be surprised by the changes. I put my info into some of those really simple "calculate your taxes under the new law" things online, and I got that we'll be paying ~$1,000 more (my fault for working for a living instead of having rich parents and a trust fund). That's doable, but I'd like to have that taken out over the course of the year.

My fear, though, is that the IRS won't do it because they want everyone to think that they got a tax break, so they won't actually withhold enough.


So my wife and I had a discussion about this last night and have decided that when the change happens, anything additional in our pay checks is just going into a savings account until we do our 2018 taxes, just to be sure.

stevew 01-04-2018 12:14 PM

If you're reasonably sure of what you'll be paying you can just have a set extra amount withheld from each check so that you don't owe. Like if you assume you're going to be 2K short just have 80ish extra withheld from each check or something

Atocep 01-04-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cartman (Post 3190581)


I think this is far more likely to backfire for Sessions than anything. I don't see the courts backing the federal government over state rights.

Thomkal 01-04-2018 02:01 PM

https://apnews.com/97e57e5f0f7045909757e87b452fd2a5

Trump opens up off-shore drilling, because no doubt it will make America great again.

cartman 01-04-2018 03:38 PM

Trump's lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to the publishers of Fire and Fury. The publishers responded by saying that book now won't be released on the 9th. It will be released tomorrow.

Thomkal 01-04-2018 03:51 PM

LoL

ISiddiqui 01-04-2018 03:59 PM

I mean you can't buy this publicity... strike as soon as possible.

BishopMVP 01-04-2018 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3190602)
I think this is far more likely to backfire for Sessions than anything. I don't see the courts backing the federal government over state rights.

This isn't states rights though (from a legal sense). It's the DoJ selectively choosing which federal laws to enforce and how aggressively to do so. Though it looks like a circuit court did halt a federal prosecution back in August, so we'll see Feds Blocked in Attempt to Prosecute Marijuana Growers | L.A. Weekly

NobodyHere 01-04-2018 04:22 PM

It looks like the law in your article only protects medical marijuana growers in my layman's understanding. Actually it blocks funding for the government to prosecute state compliant medical marijuana growers.

Not sure if it will protect recreational growers/sellers/users.

miked 01-04-2018 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3190610)
https://apnews.com/97e57e5f0f7045909757e87b452fd2a5

Trump opens up off-shore drilling, because no doubt it will make America great again.


Don't you know the only thing standing between jobs/MAGA and foreign dependence is destroying our environment so Exxon and BP can make more money.

PilotMan 01-04-2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miked (Post 3190639)
Don't you know the only thing standing between jobs/MAGA and foreign dependence is destroying our environment so Exxon and BP can make more money.


Hey the only thing standing between US independence on foreign oil and not is green tech.........sorry. That's whats standing in between US independence on foreign oil and the oil companies. That is until they get enough alternative infrastructure built so they can run it instead of whomever else. Gotta keep that money train rolling one way or another!

AENeuman 01-04-2018 06:43 PM

I think trump has played Bannon perfectly. Trump needed him to get elected, now with the Bannon base fanatically loyal to trump, trump is free to piviot to the middle and appeal to the moderates.

cuervo72 01-04-2018 06:46 PM

In what way has Trump shown he is pivoting? I don't see it.

JPhillips 01-04-2018 07:50 PM

The pivot will never happen.

AENeuman 01-04-2018 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cuervo72 (Post 3190656)
In what way has Trump shown he is pivoting? I don't see it.


I think trump is now more free to support more winnable republicans in primaries, far right or not.
I also think Bannons biggest influence was in those executive orders. I think they be will slowed, as they were largely symbolic.
I also think DACA reform can happen with less reguard to the far right

Trump wants win and is not married to an ideal. It seems following establishment congress will get him more wins

RainMaker 01-04-2018 09:10 PM

I don't think he has any real policy stances outside of what Fox News says. Not sure what he's going to pivot from.

I also think Bannon's influence is minuscule. I'd wager most people don't even know what Breitbart is or read it regularly.

JPhillips 01-04-2018 09:14 PM

Trump supports the people that kiss his ass the most.
The executive orders were perfect because Trump is all bluster.
Trump knows nothing about any policy issue.

Wins for Trump mean whatever feels good right now. Working with congress is hard and takes time. Trump won't do anything than he's done already, claim total credit for anything that gets passed.

cuervo72 01-04-2018 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3190668)
Wins for Trump mean whatever feels good right now.


Or undoing anything 44 did.

Ben E Lou 01-05-2018 02:47 AM

“Sloppy Steve”

:lol: :lol: :lol:

CrimsonFox 01-05-2018 02:54 AM

So anyone that kissed trump's ass after sloppy steve is sloppy seconds then?

BishopMVP 01-05-2018 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miked (Post 3190639)
Don't you know the only thing standing between jobs/MAGA and foreign dependence is destroying our environment so Exxon and BP can make more money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3190640)
Hey the only thing standing between US independence on foreign oil and not is green tech.........sorry. That's whats standing in between US independence on foreign oil and the oil companies. That is until they get enough alternative infrastructure built so they can run it instead of whomever else. Gotta keep that money train rolling one way or another!

The US has been a net exporter of oil for awhile now, and regardless it's a global market with transnational corporations. This is giving in to big business over the environment, but we could be "energy independent" tomorrow, it'd just cost us money and hurt the EU a whole lot more.

EagleFan 01-05-2018 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AENeuman (Post 3190663)
I think trump is now more free to support more winnable republicans in primaries, far right or not.
I also think Bannons biggest influence was in those executive orders. I think they be will slowed, as they were largely symbolic.
I also think DACA reform can happen with less reguard to the far right

Trump wants win and is not married to an ideal. It seems following establishment congress will get him more wins


Yeah, that will happen...

cuervo72 01-05-2018 10:38 AM

Voters Think Trump Has Moved To The Right

Radii 01-05-2018 12:48 PM

I’ve Studied the Trump-Fox Feedback Loop for Months. It’s Crazier Than You Think. - POLITICO Magazine

stevew 01-05-2018 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3190677)
“Sloppy Steve”

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Man between this and all the "SJW" stuff(my initials) it's not shaping up to be good for me this year.

Ben E Lou 01-06-2018 07:45 AM

Trump is, like, really smart, and a very stable genius.

Atocep 01-06-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ben E Lou (Post 3190789)
Trump is, like, really smart, and a very stable genius.


The stablest

Atocep 01-06-2018 09:57 AM

And Trump apparently doesn't remember running for president in 2000.

NobodyHere 01-06-2018 01:13 PM


BYU 14 01-07-2018 08:27 AM

The irony in this quote from Trump about Wolff's book is unparalleled.

"I consider it a work of fiction," Trump told reporters. "The libel laws are very weak in this country. If they were strong, it would be very helpful. You wouldn't have things like that happen where you can say whatever comes to your head."

digamma 01-07-2018 08:32 AM

There's literally a tweet for everything.



JPhillips 01-07-2018 11:58 AM

lol

Bannon is going full cuck.

BYU 14 01-07-2018 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3190890)
lol

Bannon is going full cuck.


Which now makes him irrelevant with everyone, good riddance!

mckerney 01-07-2018 05:57 PM



JPhillips 01-07-2018 06:33 PM

All he does is watch TV.

Quote:

On Tuesday, Trump has his first meeting of the day with Chief of Staff John Kelly at 11am. He then has "Executive Time" for an hour followed by an hour lunch in the private dining room. Then it's another 1 hour 15 minutes of "Executive Time" followed by a 45 minute meeting with National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster. Then another 15 minutes of "Executive Time" before Trump takes his last meeting of the day — a 3:45pm meeting with the head of Presidential Personnel Johnny DeStefano — before ending his official day at 4:15pm.
Other days are fairly similar, unless the president is traveling, in which case the days run longer. On Wednesday this week, for example, the president meets at 11am for his intelligence briefing, then has "Executive Time" until a 2pm meeting with the Norwegian Prime Minister. His last official duty: a video recording with Hope Hicks at 4pm.
On Thursday, the president has an especially light schedule: "Policy Time" at 11am, then "Executive Time" at 12pm, then lunch for an hour, then more "Executive Time" from 1:30pm.


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