Yes, I was robbed. I had to use some of the money I had replace what was stolen.

anybody with a vote count?

Funny you should ask because I was just looking over the quotes that made me suspect you:



Kinda seems like you were retracting your statement after I mentioned that I was told you were passing by there.

What we keep coming back to is, I admitted to being in Bishopsgate, have refused to discuss my business there, attempted to clarify to Alan that it wasn't a case of passing through on the way to somewhere else, AND NONE OF THE THREE CRIMES WAS COMMITTED THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE!

This is insane.

Mr. Wednesday (6)- Bulletsponge, DaddyTorgo, Dodgerchick, Lathum, LoneStarGirl, SnDvls
DaddyTorgo (5)- AlanT, Barkeep49, Dubb93, Izulde, Ntndeacon
Lathum (2) - blade, hoopsguy
barkeep (1) - st.cronin

dammit, that stupid quote keep appearing

I mean, I'd understand if this involved me being spotted in Commercial or Whitechapel Rd, but to accuse me because of a misunderstanding over being spotted in Bishopsgate, even though nothing at all happened there last night?

I know nothing happened in Bishopsgate, I just felt you were trying to backtrack your statement of not being there when you were seen passing by.

Well, Lathum's already voting for me, so it won't hurt me any to put a vote on him.

VOTE Lathum

Show me the post where I said I wasn't there.

Hint, you can't, because I didn't.

I clarified that I was in Bishopsgate on private business, rather than in transit to someplace else.

I have a start to a circle of trust. Thus far it would include:

Hoops--I think I know what role he is playing

Blade--From the information he has presented, IE bribing the urchin, and the overal vibe I have gotten from him

Barkeep--I think I know his role as well

AlanT--I'm very confident he is playing with the same cards I was delt.

I may still be a little rusty, and there may be something that I missed that I usually wouldn't, but for right now this is what I'm working with in my COT.

Of the three suspects, I suspect Mr. Wednesday the least. There is just nothing there. The whole reason for voting him revolved around Blade, and Blade has since moved his vote. This means either Blade re-read his PM and realized he was wrong, or he was just never really convinced.

I have nothing on DT at all. This is a bad thing for him. I have a little bit of a read on almost everyone in the game, DT is not one of them.

Lathum is interesting. Hoops is nearly convinced he is bad, and Lathum was the only one in the district who did not answer Wednesday's call. With actual evidence against Lathum, I think I may change my vote.

Of these four, they have voted for:

Blade and Hoops both on Lathum

Alan and Barkeep are on DaddyTorgo

Again, Alan is playing with the same cards I am, so I'm pretty sure he has no inside information, as for Barkeep, he would only know about the johns that have contacted him and possibly the other ladys of the night. So I think there is more hard evidence against Lathum than DT so I will...

UNVOTE DADDYTORGO

VOTE LATHUM

I hope that long ramble made sense to someone out there.

Jesus Christ, give me a minute will ya?

This was Alan's inquiry:


And your response:

I think DC is dropping the "to get to Whitechapel" part and only reading "I wasn't going through Bishopsgate"

The correct way to read this is, I wasn't going through Bishopsgate to get to Whitechapel.

I was in Bishopsgate on personal business, rather than in transit to Whitechapel.

I want to know what this private business was.

Dola, particularly, pay attention to the post to which I was replying. Alan expressed confusion about why I would be in Bishopsgate if I were traveling from Cavell to Whitechapel.

I don't think it's appropriate to discuss at this time.

Well, OK, but you are on your deathbed. Right now I believe you have a two vote lead in the lynching race.

ok, i was rereading things from yesterday looking for things alan said i missed, and noticed this post from Blade.

if blade spent all his money on an urchin for last night, what was he doing out at the same time?

hookers and opium cost 5 shillings a piece, and Alan and I have both stated that we tried to buy the urchin....i bid 6 and didnt get it, so if blade started with the same 10 shillings I had, why was he out at all last night, since he spent didnt have the cash to do anything. (We know he was out since he went to the alarm raised by mr W.)

hopefully he will be back to answer this for me.

I think we both have enough experience to appreciate the reasons why I'm trying to avoid going into more detail.

(I should say the possible reasons... not all of them are good... but under the circumstances, putting me up as a suspect is incredibly bad judgement.)

It's 6-4-4, which isn't enough to lynch. Still plenty of time to swing things without going into unnecessary detail.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother, I thought this game would be different because of the tiny nugget of knowledge I might get; but it proves that I'm completely clueless once again and I guess I'm grasping for whatever. Every single freaking game, someone comes out with the same thing, "I know something but can't disclose it" and time and time again, I fall for it... why? Why? That's WW for ya, yes, I know.

Unvote Mr. Wednesday
Vote Bulletsponge

I'll be out for a while.

After reading through what was posted this afternoon, I don't think Mr. Wednesday or Daddy Torgo is the person we should go for. Hoops has good instincts so I'll go with

VOTE LATHUM

another point on blades post that i quoted above....first he says he can pay an urchin to spy on a sector once per game....then he says he can do it again in 5 days, after earning 2 shillings per day

for those of you that are saying that i am just latching onto the normal londoner information other people are providing, i have a question..........is you ability to hire an urchin only a one time action...i know mine isnt...i can try to hire one each day if i have the money for it (how would i know that if it wasnt really my role)....i also earn 3 shillings a day, as i think everyone else has said they do (i dont expect any one to give me any slack for this statement, since numerous other people have already made it)

I respect that and I think I'm starting to place your role. However I think you are mistaken on the lynch number. We have 20 players left. We need 1/3 of that, 20 divided by 3 is 6.67 repeating of course.


So unless I am mistaken that rounds the lynch number down to 6. Someone double check that please.

we started at 24, sent JE to an orphanage, then we lost 3 last night, which makes 20....your math works out to me.

Er, right. Anyway, I still think it's tight enough right now.

unvote Mr. W
vote Lathum

in light of the more detailed info from Hoops

FWIW Weds. I don't believe that you are bad, and there are several roles that would lead to him being out and about at night in this game people. So I don't see him being "out and about" as something sinister.

I still have a couple hours to change my vote and I can feel my caffeine denial headache coming on. But I think that this point by dubb is interesting:

Lathum was the only one in the district who did not answer Wednesday's call.

Seems like there might be something there. Back in a bit (hour tops)

I would add that that information came directly from Hoops.

My father has had a heart attack. I am not officially dropping out of the game, yet, but my participation will be limited for a bit.

wow cronin, that's a lot more important that WW, I hope everything turns out ok

can i ask all the people that are currently in the thread why none of you have commented on the discrpancies i pointed out regarding blade


the only reason i havent voted for him is because i would like to hear from him first.

Grr why me?

Unvote me of the fluffy bunny gets it!

aww thats bad news. god i hope hes going to be ok

Thats horrible news, I hope he is ok and everything turns out well.

take care St. C

i was hoping for some additonal input on my blade observations, but since no one seems to care, i will go with the other story that has holes in it

vote lathum

Back and catching up....

god Cronin. I think the prayers of London good and (i would assume) bad are with you! hope everything is alright

oh yeah and i'm just leaving for coffee now. damm my madden Texans for that 27-24 squeaker over LJ and the Chiefs keeping me home.

In my dream, I saw them exchange money and Barkeep lead him away, into a room.

I'm sorry st. cronin. I hope that he's okay.

Sorry to hear that, cronin. :(

The Lathum argument makes sense to me.

UNVOTE DADDYTORGO

VOTE LATHUM

Lathum, I know you were in Cavell and that you left Cavell. I don't have any other information on the matter, but I do find it curious that the other people I saw in Cavell who left were all seen by Mr. Wednesday. That is an awfully big part of my motivation in voting for you.


Hmmm, I'm not sure what to make of this. I know that I do not have the ability to declare that I'm going to find a specific person - instead I can declare what district to visit. Do other people have the ability to specify a person instead of a zone with their actions? Or is this just an attempt to get me to admit to a role that I may or may not have?

saldana, I noted your observation.

As I recall, Blade isn't going to be back until later.

Im here for the next hour, but i have to write a paper in that time span and really need to focus on it...anyone have a question that cant wait until late tonight?

Saldana, I agree there are some inconsistencies to be found in Blade's versions of how his mechanic works. But he was the first person to come out with the urchin ability that has been widely commented upon since that time. That carried a decent amount of weight for me. Enough that I, for now, will treat incongruent statements from Blade as in keeping with his sometimes wild/erratic play as a good guy.

I think it is a point worth scrutinizing further if there is sufficient push-back from people claiming the same role. Dubb, Alan, Path, others ... your thoughts?

Sorry to hear that. :(

I hope he will be alright.

I can only decide which area of the district to visit.