Most certainly, but others have earned my trust enough where id glady have them followed. Ironically, those players seem to keep getting killed off(lathum, chief, sndvls) and i dont expect that to change

blade, how much suspicion do you have for alan right now?

and izulde's recent posts are reminiscent of his posts in the other game i played with him where he was wolf, a resignation of his fate almost and a turn towards more "characterey" posts and less defense of himself.

Blade, who do you suspect more between Izulde and Thomkal?

Chief Rum's ingame name?

So if we assume izulde and ntn will eventually trade votes it is currently ntn 8, izulde 7. Sublime could vote for NTN to seal a lynch that way, although that's really not how I want it to go :)

What did Blade, CR and SnDvls do to earn your trust?

I understood that part, but again, I don't see the relevance. I am hungry, though. Can you get me a sandwich?

That should read:

Blade, what did Lathum, CR and SnDvls do to earn your trust?

Blade why do you feel alant is on the dark side? I have a feeling he is a good guy... just an argumentative one.

well i am being swayed by my association with the less-than-savory characters who have voted for ntn

although as i said in my inital post i see very little to differentiate between the two, izulde's recent posts are raising hairs on the back of my neck (human hairs thank you very much)...but a switch at this point might serve to cast an unfavorable light on myself, no?

Thomkal

Not really. We still have two hours to lynch, so it's not like you're screwing around with anything. You weren't here most of the day, so it's only fair that you get time to consider things.

Does anyone have an in-game name that is similar to Chief Rum's?

I really wish some of the guys off of ntn would switch to izulde...

He is more by actions...his votes have harmed the village, and maybe by poor judgement or honest error, he is leading others with him. Most of my suspects are voting with him, such as thomkal, and i just dont see much he is doing that really helps the village. He put out ideas, sure, but where have those led us so far? Down all the wrong roads...and today he led us down the NTN road, which i feel will likely end in another wasted day

Here is the post from the roster page on CR

25. Chief Rum - Lynched Day Two. Nob the Hobbit Server on the side of Light and Townsfolk

Swaggs, why do you find CR's name of importance?

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

VOTE IZULDE

Izulde's play at this point is reminding me of when he was wolf in the last game I played with him and he was on the block. Perhaps I am wrong, or perhaps he is indeed an agent of Darkness. In any regard I feel better about this vote now, as Izulde's "defense" of himself has not done anything to ease my suspiscion and I can't forgive myself for lynching yet another fellow villager who has failed to show up to defend himself.

Izulde you really should learn to defend yourself with more conviction...innocent or guilty. Your words here, or more precisely lack-thereof, have condemned you in my eyes.

ntndeacon appears!

I'm sorry you feel that way, DT.

I have to leave in about 15 minutes and no, I'm not going to be switching off my vote, because I don't have a feel either way about NTN.

I stated on day 2 my reasons for the first 2. Lathum was bad in the football game, and played dramatically differnent. He was very passive agressive and wanted to avoid the spotlight. Here, he played his villager style. Argumentative, volatile, and in the end good.

Chief was much like NTN today...i saw who was voting for him, and connected the dots.

Sndvls made some comments that to me seemed very sage in their wisdom. When hes bad, he likes to become more aggressive. And god forbid you vote him, he screams bloody murder. This game he took the quiet approach, making timely and wise comments when needed and shutting his mouth when he saw it appropriate.

Lathum and Sndvls are off past play styles, chief was because of who it was taking him down.

I don't know what the vote is now as I am not that far yet.
Vote Izulde

This is either becuase he knows he has friends coming like sublime, or they are both bad. I just dont see a way as a villager he would not swap to save his own life. It doesnt make sense to me, im sorry

And before somebody says, "But you voted for lynches before!", yeah, I did, because we had the numbers where a lynch was more advantageous than not.

But we're running short of Light people now, which means I don't want to lynch unless I'm as close to darned certain as I can be without seeing the flashing neon red sign over their heads.

Because I'm of the Light and I'm playing that role? You'll notice I did it early in the game, but then backed off it when nobody seemed to be paying attention to it.

I'm even so Light, I'd let a homeless man who has nothing to eat and has to beg for everything live in my warren.

And i think regardless of what goes down today, i am close to certain i need to take him down tomorrow. I dont have some dead set fact, and wouldnt mind a sublime or whoever lynch, but i have made up my mind. Thomkal is my first im certain pick all game.

And im freaking crazy, really, but my role's crazyness doesnt have restrictions about who i can and cant vote for or how many times i must do something.

careful blade

Why are you so certain?

Did i strike a nerve? Hes caught my eye more then anyone has this game, i cant lie about that fact. Id lynch him right now if i could instead of NTN or izulde. My fortunes tomorrow are tied to my 3rd best suspect. Im simply stating my opinion, id rather have thomkal or sublime.

Well, the way you've constructed it, I'm looking either like an idiot (if I don't switch) or self-serving (if I do switch). So yeah, given the ogre's choice, I'll take the noble way.

a nerve? you didn't strike a nerve, but you just put a almighty big target on your back for the Dark.

Just a gut wrenching feeling. His vote for ntn, the mannor it was placed and its timing, just set off all kinds of alarms. You will see he was my 2b suspect this morning, and was strongly tied to schmidty in my mind. Both of their actions today make me think badly of both. And i would much rather lynch thomkal then schmidty who hinted at some grand role(and i believe the bodyguard is dead, as in the dead towns guardsman) so i see no reason he didnt die last night.

How so?

That is exactly what it seems to me as well, DaddyTorgo. And a clearing out of the nonparticipant vote is rather random at day 3. Especially when the non participant has been quiet in most of the games he has played. (I will grant I have been more quiet this game but idoubt it is by as much as people say.)

laying things out so openly, no? remember my first game i asked why people didn't more often, and you explained that it made you a target? i am beginning to understand that more is all.

DT, don't you think the homeless in the war that threatens Middle Earth should have places to go? I do.

my practice took a bit longer than I thought. :)

I certainly respect your nobility, and if good hearted im sorry if you go down. You arent my top suspect, but your up there. I will say this, as Valen Gutters is my witness, i will go to death fighting for the village...in whatever capactity i think will best serve the group. I wont play it nice or back off becuase someone is acting upset. I have told the group my honest thoughts every step of the way, told everyone my role on day one if the paid VERY close attention(no one has been close, so i guess no one was). I can do no more then that, though if i was up for a lynch i would know even it was 1% the other guy was bad, that 1% would be more then i knew i was bad(0%) and i would take the chance.

Daddy, are you of the side of light?

The guard died last night, so he would have been alive to protect, to the wolves' knowledge at least.

Oh, i full heartedly agree...the one uniqueness to my situation, as im sure you have clearly observed, is most players think im crazy, not even just this game with my role, and dont like me all too much. That gives me the leverage of being a likely lynch victim in most games, and therefore not as much of a target for the wolves. Though, knock on wood, saying it likely ended the nice effect it was having.

At this point in the game though, i dont see myself and alan living long unless were bad. So i figure now that most of the vocal vets are dead, i already have a target on my back and might as well go down swinging

Before he died i would have said the herbalist was the BG, so i viewed it as the BG has been dead since night 1. Im working under the assumption, with the kills they have been making, they have worried much about the BG either.

Vote Izulde


Sorry guys, I know a vote and run is generally looked down upon, but I havne't been around much for the day because of exams, and right now I'm getting ready for my drive back to NH. I won't be home till 1030-11ish.

I am. And I invite our seer to examine that for themself and assure you of that. I stand by my voting record as perhaps not distinguished in this game, but certainly nothing aberrant.

I understand what you're saying Blade. That makes sense.

there is a name I have not heard mentioned as a suspect. I wonder about Johnathan. He is one of the names that no one has questioned (aloud) I know it sounds a bit like retribution (He was the second vote on me today) I have been uneasy with some of his play. If you ask me for specifics I couldn't give it to you. But it has been bothering me. and with me being this close to not being able to contribute, iwanted to wonder aloud about him.

Swaggs...where is your vote right now? I am beginning to believe I may have been led astray (comments made by you and Izulde)

Ntn or Izulde, do you have anything to contribute to the cause of light? I'm not sensing much urgency from either of you, with your heads on the line.

My vote is on Izulde.

Izulde's comments have made it through my thick skull to give me pause. I must ask Swaggs...where your vote is right now? I do not recall.

dola

we were typing at the same time

Blade Iwould

I think his vote is on Izulde

Blade, I think it'd be very risky. We have to get nine votes, we have a lot of people gone, and I'm not as convinced on Thomkal as you are. We could lose a lot.

We need a min of 4 to make a push id say...if DT and swaggs can agree, 4 could be enough to grab some fringe votes.

I'm open to moving.

What is the case on Thomkal?

If you only take a look at things and think a bit, you'll notice my contributions.

Are you convinced about Izulde? Ive been clear hes my #3, so if i have any chance to get my #1 lynched i will take it. Im not at all sure about izulde or NTN, but i feel pretty sure about thomkal. I have to do what i must to see my feelings represented

well i certainly feel that izulde has a role...whether for Dark or Light I cannot be certain, but he seems to know...things.

In the spirit of that, moving my vote off him seems like the thing to do.

Swaggs??

The problem is that while he might not be your highest candidate we have to move over half the votes in the game in an hour. I think we already have something like five people gone...that means, if we have 12 or so people left, we can only stand one or two dissenters. Do we have that many votes? If we don't, don't screw with a lynch.

His timing of votes, his comments about schmidty and then following him in voting, his UTR status(seemingly the thing getting NTN lynched, so if were going the UTR vote lets go Thomkal). His comments have distrubed me today and yesterday, and his late vote and reason was too much for me to be quiet about.

I would change. we have enough people in the thread here right now. make the case blade

Thats why im asking and not doing right now...i will only do this is i have enough support.

Let's do it, then. I think Izulde isn't playing a great game, but he might be useful for us down the road.

Unvote Izulde

Vote Thomkal

Tyrith, you said you thought i was good...follow me here, please

Unvote Izulde
Vote Thomkal

I'd like to see Izulde's vote on board here, as well.

NTN, Sublime, Gramat...please join us!

Izulde, will you join us?

sorry it took so long. I was called away right then. :)

All right. Since we're apparently determined to get a lynch and your reasoning for Thomkal seems plausible, I'll make the switch.

UNVOTE LONESTARGIRL

VOTE THOMKAL

gramat...tyrith...join us!

If we don't have the votes in the next 45 minutes we HAVE to switch back. _We must get a lynch_. And I don't ever recall explicitly saying I thought you were good blade, because I certainly don't know that much about anyone in this game. But fine.

UNVOTE IZULDE
VOTE THOMKAL

i'm going to run out and get dinner and coffee now so i can be back before lynch.

Tyrith, Sublime...now is the time to make a swap

THANKS GRAMMAT!

Gotta take the dog out, be back in a little while.

i will be back in time to switch if it becomes necessary. or should be barring accidents/whatever

What is the vote count now?

If Thomkal is good blade goes to the top of my suspect list, btw.

Dinner sounds good. I'm off to it myself.

7 on Thomkal. 5 on ntn. 4 left on izulde.

We've 7 votes for Thomkal by my reckoning.

After later on you said you trusted Spleen, i took this post(the first part of it at least) from this morning to mean you thought i was good too:

Sublime was here, though appears to have left

I wouldnt be blade if i didnt take chances like this

I didn't want to lynch you today, and any argument against you probably wouldn't have made any sense. Doesn't mean I think you're good -- although you're higher on the list that most people. You're banking those points on this lynch, though.

Im banking my life on this lynch, DT pointed that out :)

You mean that wasn't already up there regardless whether we get the votes or not? ;)

You're gonna be the hero or the goat. Either way, you're probably dead by tomorrow night, but how you die...that's the question.

Could be worth noting down the road.

I have to go in 3 minutes, so i hope you guys either pull the 2 votes in or swap back and pick your lynch target before the lynch. I really hope thomkal dies, but i wont be around to see if im to be cheered or killed

This is the danger.......

If you cant pull the votes, swap back...just be open to a thomkal lynch tomorrow, as my feelings are resolute on this matter now

Though, noting as i leave, Alan said he would be back for the lynch...so we could prob. pull him

And heres brian!! Come on B!!!!