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If Trump actually goes after the church of scientology's tax exempt status we'll probably find out quickly if the pee tapes exist.
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White House daycare off duty tonight.
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No kidding. The President of the United States just tweeted this:
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Nice one, had a good chuckle.
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Oh wait. I might need to buy my bomb shelter first.
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Looks like he made it to Vietnam without those pesky heel spurs acting up.
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That was real? OMG! It's like the white trash teeny boppers I have to deal with occasionally...
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What a dotard.
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Heh. I confess that I hadn't thought about this angle...
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Good read
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It's almost like this guy doesn't understand economics.
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New proof that Don Jr. was in contact with Assange and WikiLinks during the election:
The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks - The Atlantic |
I'm now seeing commercials on TV to impeach Trump. During Impractical Jokers no less.
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I don't think Peter King is on board with the tax reform plan.
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Oh great. I really don't think they should try to mix the 2. I'm all for some sort of tax plan and think it could pass on its own.
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North Korea sentences Trump to death:
North Korea Issues 'Death Sentence' Against Trump: 'He Will be Forced to Pay Dearly for His Blasphemy' |
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They just can't keep from tripping over their own damn feet. This move is far from brilliant. |
Fuck it, put it all in one bill.
Tax cuts, ACA repeal, defunding Planned Parenthood, locking up Hillary, national voter ID, reciprocal concealed carry, Confederate statues, school vouchers, Reagan on Mt. Rushmore, Social Security cuts, standing for the National anthem, a Constitutional convention.... |
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I really wish that whatever bill gets passed wouldn't go into affect until 2019 and next year they would publish some decent guidelines for people so they can plan ahead. Some people are going to have a nasty surprise that they aren't prepared for.
For example, lets take a family with 3 kids (and i'm rounding numbers here to make the math easy). Current: Standard deduction: 12,000 Personal exemptions: 20,000 Mortgage interest, taxes, donations, etc: 20,000 So this family itemizes and knocks off 32,000 at the start. New bill (if passed as today): Standard deduction: 24,000 Personal exemptions: 0 Mortgage interest, taxes, donations, etc: 20,000 So now they take the standard since that is more than itemizing... but they are now left with taxes on another $12,000 of income, which in the 25% bracket would be another $3,000. Hope they planned ahead given that surveys say that something like 50% of households would have trouble with an unexpected $500 bill. Now, I know that doesn't take into account child tax credits and other stuff, but I think my point is this is going to have some trouble for a lot of people in the middle. Edit: Heard this on the radio, so not sure where the numbers come from, but... - 50 million households under $200,000/yr get no tax cut - 20 million households under $200,000/yr get a tax increase |
In the Senate bill all the income tax provisions expire in eight years while all the corporate tax cuts are permanent.
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You would think in the end it will just be more federal debt with a lot cut out. They can't just alienate voters with tax increases like you describe right? I mean with these idiots in Congress anything is possible but it seems like you don't want "values" voter Joe Schmoe who always votes straight GOP to get a $3000 tax bill from the IRS when he is supposed to get getting a refund check. |
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That will just be spun into some other kind of BS that they believe, just like everything else coming from the GOP. |
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Well, the issue there is the 2 party system, right? It's very possible this Joe Schmoe is still gonna vote GOP for some other issue (gun rights, abortion, etc). |
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I don't disagree that this is true with most of their programs/ideas but most of the programs don't effect their core middle class voter like this one would. This one you would think would really stick out. I mean there is a reason neither party ever wants to increase taxes (outside of the normal bs they say) and that's losing votes. |
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If you look at charts on the new Senate bill, by the end of the ten year window it's basically a huge corporate tax cut paid for by tax increases on the poor and middle class, but they are terrified of their donors who are apparently saying, pass this or count us out. As bad as this is, wait until next year, when Ryan says they are going to "reform" Medicare and Social Security. The Congressional GOP may end up with a zero approval rating. |
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Maybe but I think while people like to claim otherwise their pocketbook will always trump all other issues. A authoritarian who promised to reduce all income tax to 0 in exchange for all sorts of drastic measures would probably get a large chunk of votes. |
As someone that I think is gonna be squeezed by this, we are looking for things to do before the end of the year. So we are likely going to accelerate some charitable donations of cash that we would have liked to do 2018 into this year, as well as go through our entire house to look at donations of household items so we can get that benefit in the 2017 tax year instead of the unknown 2018 tax year. Any other ideas that people have?
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Probably not terrible ideas but I wouldn't do anything drastic yet. Repealing Obamacare seemed like it would be the easiest (easy meaning most support from their base) and that didn't happen. You have to think there will be a few hold outs on this one for the same reason. |
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I stopped believing things would eventually "stick out" once involvement with fucking Russians got dismissed with talking points. But your point is valid that it tends to be the wallet that eventually hurts. My worry though is the amount of damage that will be done in the time it takes for all that core middle class to actually realize it. |
This sounds straight out of a mafia movie.
Firm founded by KGB spy to guard US Moscow embassy http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-41947030 Quote:
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My bet is that it'll be spun as being because of 'Obamacare' that the evil Democrats have been preventing them removing .... |
Can we pick the card(s) that will go there?
Cards Against Humanity buys a piece of the U.S. border - CBS News |
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About time those 0.1%ers caught a break.
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It's funny that anyone thought Trump was going to come in and help the middle class.
I'd bet nearly anything he wouldn't have been within $100k if asked to identify middle class earnings when he took office and I'd say there's still probably a 50% chance that hasn't changed. |
We don't really need elephants do we?
Trophies from elephant hunts in Zimbabwe were banned in the U.S. Trump just reversed that. - The Washington Post |
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You're looking at this from an elitist perspective ... the middle class hunt and they need to bring their trophies home from their little hunting expeditions). (both Trumps sons do trophy hunting and in his mind I'm sure they're 'middle class' as they have less money than he does ;) ) |
well excuse my elitist blood :) I'm sure he had no thought on this other than his sons when he agreed to it.
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No longer will the middle class be forced to pay unfair taxes on their private jets.
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It sounds like something that would have happened under Obama, and rest assured if it had, you'd have a large contingent of opposition literally calling for him to be hung for treason. Not shot. Hung. |
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Trump is an apathetic, amoral POS who doesn't care about nor understand cause/effect/perception. I expect plenty more of this sort of "minor" stuff get pushed by him because it is so incredibly easy to spin things to him in a way that makes him go "hey, thats a pip of an idea, let's do that" Also give the NRA sth to talk about: "gee, ain't it awesome what good weapons do. Conservation, just doing out part. Wait, you still wanna talk about Las Vegas and stuff ? Outrageous ... " |
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