That video of McCain dealing with Miss "He's an Arab!" is the John McCain that I have thought would be a good President for years... The campaign that is being run seems so contrary to who McCain is and I would find it difficult to vote for the campaign that is being run.

I just heard someone from the McCain campaign of FOX who makes it hard to believe in the "Straight Talk Express." He was talking about the results in Alaska as a positive, affirming that Palin was completely in her authority to "reassign" the trooper. Reassign? What, his new position is Former Police Officer?

Exactly. That's the McCain that those of us who aren't voting for him respect even tho we have policy disagreements. That's vintage of our "McCain of 2000", back before he sold his soul to get elected and associated himself with the trash who run his campaign.

SI

Man, Wasillla has some ugly report cards. Then again, it was the early 80s.

Oh, and she's a backwoods yokel who isn't very smart. But we already knew that.

SI

You are awesome, my friend!

Ummm.....can't an Arab be a decent family man also? He is not an Arab, or a Muslim, but it sad that we just openly allow racism and bigotry versus those groups. There are good, American Arabs and good American Muslims (as well as some very bad American Whites and Christians).

And your reaction is one example of why those of us who face the prospect of holding our nose & voting for the RINO anyway are so despondent .

And I'll just skip taking most of the bait on "the trash" comment, you already know I see more value in any one of them than (just to pick a number) a million Obamites.

I was kindof waiting for him to say something about his mom being from Kansas and him being born in Hawaii or something like that. Not that he was a decent family man with the implications above...

SI

This is why there is such negativity around the campaigns. Scrutinize every single word. Make a mountain out of a molehill. Jeeeeeeesus.

The woman made the comment in a negative manner and used the word Arab. He was responding to her negative comment not responding to the use of the word Arab.

Corrected

Some in this country would lead you to believe that it's not possible for an Arab to be a decent family man and that simply being a Muslim makes one evil.

Go read Free Republic for a bit. Then you'll see how fucked in the head some people in this country are. Of course you can also go to the lefty equivalant too, for the sake of fairness.

Looks like that is from The College Board. Wouldn't those be the same everywhere?

That would be a great Daily Show skit.

You got it. I don't have any problem with John McCain as President. If he is elected, I hope he reverts to the John McCain that was screwed in 2000 and who I wrote in my vote for in '04. I feel bad for him in that due to the internal politics within his own party, the very thing that could get him elected in the first place is what he has had to turn his back on to even get the nomination.

I wonder if the Palin abuse of Power thing could be McCain's ticket to be McCain... Palin withdraws from the ticket, McCain talks Lieberman (or preferably Powell) into joining him on the ticket. He then cans a few people in the right places and decides that if he's going to win or lose, it will be on his terms. That could win my vote.

I voted for and campaign for McCain in 2000. But by 2004, I think he'd already left his ideals enough that would not have backed him. I hope if he gets elected he would revert to the old McCain, but I far from count on it.

This is not as far from the realm of possibility as it was about 3 weeks ago AND it would fall under modus operandi AND if he threw down the gauntlet against the Republican machine that is pulling his strings he could trly create the possibility of a "November surprise." That would be very exciting indeed.

The only way Palin leaves the ticket is if she dies. Any other reason guarantees a McCain lose.

ew, I dont know. If McCain were to 'market' it right it could be a really 'maverick' thing to do and at the same time, cross the line to be with the people who are against the machine portion of the GOP. Its a gamble but at this point what's he got to lose?

Probably half or more of McCain's current support are hardcore Palin fans. If he ditches her he'll lose a significant portion of those voters that he can't make up from undecided/Obama supporters. It might have worked if he had chosen Lieberman initially, but he can't pull Palin now.

Well I guess you could be right if the Religious Right fully adopted Palin as their candidate on the ticket....

Palin "withdrawing" would not hurt McCain at all... What, the Republican base is going to vote for Obama? Not vote at all? Vote Libertarian? No... they will do what they were planning all along and "hold their nose" while voting for a man they have always thought to be barely better than a Democrat.

I work on a right-wing show where the host (who I will not name) was 100% for Romney and right up to the point when Romney conceded felt "McCain would be just as bad as Hillary, if not worse!" Then he jumped right on the bandwagon.

His support from the base is similar to Obama's... If something comes to the surface providing proof that Obama was actually born in Kenya, then he would have to withdraw himself from the ticket. Do we really think that the Democrat party's base wouldn't back Biden (or Hillary, or whoever?)

Democrats will vote for Obama. Republicans will vote for McCain. It's the few voters who actually think that may decide the election.

He wouldn't "dump" her. She would "withdraw" from the ticket and continue to support McCain, citing that it is in the best interest for the nation and her family. She would then start working on her '12 or '16 campaign.

No way she'll withdraw as this is her big moment. If she does "withdraw" enough stories about how she was pushed aside will emerge to make that the dominant story. I think if McCain had picked a moderate initially he would get the bulk of the Religious Right, but two weeks out I think it would kill him. A lot of the religious right would stay home and more would refuse to volunteer. I don't think he can pull Palin at now that he's committed to her.

If he dumped her or she withdrew, I think it would highlight McCain's judgment and push the erratic meme a little more. The argument would be that, had he vetted her more thoroughly (or at all), he would have known this would have arisen. I don't think a sudden change in his campaign with less than a month out helps him.
But, his telling people at events that Obama isn't dangerous or bad, does paint him in a box, should he or his campaign continue to go negative.

good lord - 841?? That's embarrassingly stupid.

And I would say that even if it was somebody here on the board who got that.

Wow.

Average score (per Wikipedia) in '81 was 992. Could be worse..

/tk

Is there any reason at all to believe that image isn't a fake?

Radaii -- Did Sarah Palin Score 841 on the SATs? | Cleveland Leader

i haven't gone down and read all the comments to see what's up with it though

I've seen that comment in multiple places now, does anyone know if that's true or not?

Assignment Desk: Sarah Palin's High-School Grades?

That comment is at least an interesting read as well.

nice read radaii

This is so strange. Initially they were using the report's findings to say that it proves that nothing unlawful was done but now they're ridiculing the report again, in parts, and then she says if you read the report you will come to the same conclusion as she and her supporters have in that she did nothing unethical or unlawlful. You can't have it both ways, can you?

Palin defiant after probe jolts McCain campaign - Yahoo! News

Report: 60 Million People You'd Never Talk To Voting For Other Guy | The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Always good to know. :D

It's kind of hard to claim the report proves you have done nothing illegal or unethical when the report actually quotes the specific part of the Alaskan code that was broken.

Now, the McCain/Palin ticket is the first in American history in which both candidates were found to have violated ethics standards before a national election.

Minnesota Senate debate coming up on CSPAN at 8pm. Franken v. Coleman v. Barkley should be pretty interesting.

I think anything that McCain does from now on will be seen as desperate. But this I think may have more legs than other desperate moves.

Obama's recent lead comes almost exclusively from the financial crisis. Add to that that the American people are angry and want to see the people who caused this crisis punished - certainly named and shamed. And when it comes to the political side of this (as distinct from the bankers, mortgage agents etc ) then it would seem the Democrats have as much responsibility for this as the Republicans.

The cause of the crisis is the toxic packages infecting the financial community. The cause of this is the sub-prime collapse. The cause of that collapse is the level of default on the sub-prime mortages. The cause of that is that too many people took out mortages they could never afford. The cause of that is (and I'm merely repeating Republican claims here not personal knowledge) is that Democrats pushed for mortages to be made available to the bottom end of town.

Therefore it should not be difficult to lay much of the responsibility (which is what many Americans want) on the Democrats - the genesis of the problem is their determination to make mortgages available to those who cannot afford to service them and every thing else, including the Wall St crash, stems from there.

I would think that would have as many legs as any other move McCain may make :)

true or not you have to be able to market it to the masses and right now it aint going to fly and theyre running out of time.

I think if you're the GOP and somehow Palin gets magic'd off the ticket and is replaced, they have a real danger with turnout unless they pick someone even more up their alley.

That said, unless something drastic bumps the economy off the front pages in the next 3 weeks, the election is already decided.

SI

Looks like Obama has the 105 year old+ Demographic wrapped up :)

BBC NEWS | World | Americas | 106-year-old voter chooses Obama

(I like light stories like this, it's a welcome change, don't you think?) :D

McCain's old grade school classmates won't even vote for him?

;)

That's it. Nail in coffin as to deciding that the people running the McCain campaign may be the worst managers in recent memory. First they let Palin comment on the NK issue and it is in contrast with McCain's but even more important as a managerial plan, they let Palin drop the puck at a Flyers game in Philly! Of course she got booed (and cheered) but they point is on video you definitely hear the boos more so anyone who watches sees that and hears a chorus of boos. You just cant let this stuff happen. You have to control the image and work in a planned environment (as much as is possible). This management team is an utter disaster and I wonder if McCain has anything at all to do with it or if the handlers are the 'experts' and are allowed to do what they do....obviously not well.

I wouldn't let any candidate appear at a Philly sporting event.

I think Biden might get a different response but that being said you STILL DO NOT have the candidate do this, this close to the election.

Don't forget about Sarah openly using her seven-year old daughter in an effort to keep the booing down.


She must not be familiar with Philadelphia sports fans.

Don't those kids have school? How many campaign events do they go to? The convention I can understand, and debates, but those are school nights.

Also, it looks like she's a kiss-hello person. I hate the kiss-hello.

I don't think the hockey event sounded or looked bad. It just didn't look particularly good. That's the problem with this campaign, the few times they aren't screwing up they aren't doing anything well to make up ground.

The kiss hello is awkward, but I would take one from Palin.

What!? Were you not listening? apparently you should take the mute off. The boos were drowning out the cheers and you cannot allow that to happen less than 30 days out, IMO.

Actually, I didn't hear the boos, either.

Mother Theresa would have been booed at a Philly sporting event.

wow, didnt hear the boos.