dola- this is where I expect DT to try and get people to go after Mrs Schmidty.

i'm not rationalizing it lathum - regardless of your role, it's the right thing to do.

if poli made you the real seer, than frankly, we deserve to lose, because that would be a bonehead thing to do.

Telle- start prepearing your defense for when I come back seer

why go after mrs. schmidty? no reason to lynch her yet that i can see.

It's simple. You're the most likely candidate at present.

Yet to vote: Mrs. Schmidty and GoldenEagle (who is yet to check in as far as I've seen)

it really isn't that bonehead of a move.

I think I am an above average villager so people aren't going to kill me day one usualy and the wolves usualy keep me alive because I take heat.

I think it is FAR more likely that poli would make me the real seer as opposed to him purposly leaving me for Hoops at the last pick.

Lets be honest, had KWhit not come up with that theory the odds of me being lynched day 1 are pretty slim.

The more I think about it I put it at 60-40.

find me another game where someone on the block revealed as seer day 1 and was lynched?

it's obvious my vote isn't helping matters so

UNVOTE EAGLEFAN
VOTE DADDYTORGO

make it a close 2 person race here and see what everyone else does I guess

dola, nothing against you DT or for you Lathum

just want to keep everyone honest as much as you can in WW games

ugh - don't lynch me

you all really want to force my hand?

I think Lathum is either the real seer or a vanilla villager who is trying to save his butt. He may have some sort of other role as well, but I am convinced he is not a wolf. I could see Poli inserting Lathum as the real seer. You usually put your strongest player in as the seer and that is what Poli did. I do not think he is the fake seer. It is imperative that we keep Lathum around.

At this point, I would rather vote for Mrs. Schmidty than Daddy Torgo. But I will vote DT if I have to.

Obviously if it comes down to it I would vote Mrs Schmidty out of self preservation but I would rather go with DT, I feel much stronger about him.

off to the dentist, hopefully be back in time for the deadline but my vote stands on DT for now.

you're wrong about me lathum

Anyone have a current vote count?

7 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (250), KWhit (278), Barkeep (283), RendeR (294), Danny (431), Alan T (464), Telle (650)
6 - DaddyTorgo - Lathum (339), LoneStarGirl (538), PackerFanatic (556), mccollins (605), claphamsa (946), SnDvls (659)
3 - Mrs. Schmidty - EagleFan (362), saldana (596), oliegirl (604)
1 - EagleFan - Schmidty (394)
1 - OlieGirl - Passacaglia (270)
1 - saldana - Chief Rum (594)

Question: Is the cunning wolf revealed as a wolf or a villager when lynched?

Thanks.

The cunning wolf is revealed as the cunning wolf.

I'm out for a while, probably until after deadline...won't be moving my vote anyway so I'm not too concerned about missing it...

Good.

Someone earlier mentioned that Lathum could be just a normal villager who fake revealed as seer just as his best chance to avoid lynch. My concern was that if he did that it could be a confusing result if he were lynched with us not knowing if he really was a villager or the cunning wolf. At least we won't have that to deal with.

Eh, I'm not worried. People can look at me all they want no matter what you come back as. I put forth solid analysis of why you're a great day one lynch choice. In other words, I've been working hard for the villager team. If I end up being wrong, so be it.

Thats it, I quit! No excuse for such mistakes.










just kidding

I have to get going for work in about 45 mintues so unfortunately I won't be here for deadline :(

I believe Lathum when he say's he's the seer, fake or not, do we really want to take that chance and take him out? I think not. I don't see how that can be good. The only way to try and avoid that would be to vote DT creating a tie right at deadline.

I see that there are a few people on the board that voted elsewhere and they have ample time to break the tie so I'll let the cards fall as they may.

Vote Daddy Torgo.

what are the tie-break rules?

UGH

bad vote Mrs. Schmidty

The masons break the tie. If two or more players are tied, the one with more votes from the masons gets lynched. If the masons can't break the tie, tie = no lynch.

I'm not a wolf. Just a villager. Not sure why everyone is blindly following along with this whole "vibe" thing that oliegirl started. It's absolute bumpkiss. All I have done is put a vote on Lathum and try to show why that vote makes sense in my mind. And I haven't really seen anything enough to sway it.

Was this what you meant by "forcing your hand"?

And the masons know each other, but can't PM?

Votes as of post 680:

7 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (250), KWhit (278), Barkeep (283), RendeR (294), Danny (431), Alan T (464), Telle (650)
7 - DaddyTorgo - Lathum (339), LoneStarGirl (538), PackerFanatic (556), mccollins (605), claphasma (646), SnDvls (659), Mrs. Scmidty (676)
3 - Mrs. Schmidty - EagleFan (362), saldana (596), oliegirl (604)
1 - oliegirl - Passacaglia (270)
1 - EagleFan - Schmidty (394)
1 - saldana - Chief Rum (594)

Also, way to call out someone who DOESN'T have a vote on you yet.

Correct.

I'm convinced, lets mix things up a bit.

Unvote Lathum
Vote DaddyTorgo

You're convinced that DT is a wolf, or convinced that we should mix things up a bit?

I'm convinced that his argument to not vote him was super compelling.

I just can't see Poli making Lathum the actual seer, not on second, third, fourth, or whatever level you want thinking.

you really want me to reveal?

i was torn on whether or not to switch off, right up until the "dont force my hand" bit...that sounded desparate to me

unvote mrs schmidty

vote daddytorgo

At this point, everyone should be either voting for DT or Lathum. If you vote for Mrs. Schmidty, oliegirl, EagleFan, or saldana you are doing the village no good. The spy could then follow Lathum or DT tonight and potentially give us more information.

Not really. I think Lathum revealed way too early, and I don't think you should reveal right now either (if you really do have an important role to save).

All day long though (game day) you've been hinting things since the very start of the game which is what gave alot of people suspicion of you. The way you have played it to me either is a reckless villager who has given the wolves so many hints to having a role by now if you aren't a wolf they are already on to you as a possible target... or you're a wolf trying to set yourself up from the start for a later fake reveal.

Neither of those scenarios really compel me much right now.

Just for later reference.. if Saldana and DT are wolves together, now that DT has taken a 2 vote swing vs a supposed revealed seer and seems to be preparing himself for either a reveal or fake reveal... this is the point as a wolf you have to make the decision if you get on board or not before it seems like a late throw on a done deal.

just playing reckless *shrug*

like i've said - i just think the scenario kwhit layed out is compelling and it makes sense to lynch lathum.

just aggrivated by how everyone is leaping onto me based on these nebulous "feelings" that no one can even articulate any real evidence for.

or, it could be i am a villager that hates ties and didnt see your vote that broke the until after i already posted mine because i didnt refresh the screen often enough....take your pick

going to lunch. should be back within 30-45

How am I getting dragged into this? I don't even have a vote on you!

Votes as of post 697:

9 - DaddyTorgo - Lathum (339), LoneStarGirl (538), PackerFanatic (556), mccollins (605), claphasma (646), SnDvls (659), Mrs. Scmidty (676), Alan T (686), saldana (691)
6 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (250), KWhit (278), Barkeep (283), RendeR (294), Danny (431), Telle (650)
2 - Mrs. Schmidty - EagleFan (362), oliegirl (604)
1 - oliegirl - Passacaglia (270)
1 - EagleFan - Schmidty (394)
1 - saldana - Chief Rum (594)

UNVOTE MRS SCHMIDTY
VOTE HOOPSGUY

I'm still not convinced Mrs S isn't a wolf, but Hoops calling me out when I had a vote on Mrs S reeks of the exact same mistake that Alan made in the last game and he was a wolf. Once bitten, twice shy...