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Appears Trump was shot at and possibly hit (blood on ear seen) at a rally. Oh boy.
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Looks like he was possibly grazed by the ear based on the video.
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Someone texted me saying it was a paintball gun, where is the video?
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On Twitter. No clue if it's real or not.
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Can't wait for the right wing media to claim Bidens government is trying to take out Trump.
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Good old butler
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Well, election and America over. At least I'm a white male, but I feel sorry for my daughter.
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yeah. This is definitely going to help him. |
If it was a real gun you would think someone behind Trump would have gotten hit and seriously wounded.
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Doesn't matter, all people will hear is trump shot and the news will run it until they can't make money anymore.
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There are multiple shots too. How does he only get grazed and no reports of anyone else hurt?
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Because liberals are gun hating pansies. |
I was actually in Butler a few hours ago. I had no idea that jackass was doing a rally there.
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Where was the good guy with a gun?
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Build the alibi now. |
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At this point I don't know if it mattered, but yeah. This is basically a game over moment. By the time his people are done, this is going to be Teddy Roosevelt continuing a speech after he was shot by coked up Hunter Biden. |
Man, this election is something.
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Just seeing the shot, I would guess it was a paintball. He gets hit, reaches up to his ear, then voluntarily goes down.
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The internet is going to be insufferable for the next several days
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Or maybe Airsoft? |
He's going to win in a landslide.
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I’m about as gun virgin as you can get. Maybe fired a .22 at a summer camp 35 years ago or so? |
That photo of him with his fist in the air and blood on his face juxtaposed with Biden telling us he doesn't have a bed time. Trump is getting 400 electoral votes.
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That's a possibility to. When you hear the shots it doesn't sound really like a gun. It does sound to me like a paint ball gun, though an airsoft probably sounds the same. |
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You're not wrong. I don't think another candidate is going to change that either. |
The only way Biden can come close to saving this (assuming it doesn't come out as a false flag or something) is to get a statement out ASAP denouncing and flying AF One to whatever hospital Trump is at and denouncing it standing next to Trump.
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Biden is asleep. This happened too late in the day. |
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lol they just asked him about it and he said he hadn't heard about it. Just let Trump start filling his cabinet now. |
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It wasn't even close before this happened. Dems will always be Dems. |
Whatever was fired didn't sound ... typical.
We wondered here in the batcave about some sort of improvised weapon (like was used to kill Abe in Japan) but I don't know what the max capacity of something like that could be. (Japan was a single shot IIRC) Legit question, cause I sure as hell don't know: Do 3D printer weapons "sound" normal? |
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Gonna save this post. One of us is going to be very, very wrong. |
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The reports are the shooter is dead. I think the gun shots after the initial were Secret Service. |
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meh, I prefer presidents that don't get shot.
I don't think this moved the needle either. No one is changing their vote 3 and half months from now over this. |
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There's a thought that it's 3 from the shooter, 5(?) in return fire. There is a sort of ... pause in there. |
What's the worst case scenario for when we find out who the shooter is? Transgender immigrant who has used a stolen identity to work with children in Scranton and has an insta full of black lives matter, me too, and dark Brandon memes whose most recent picture is a photo with Biden?
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I think this generates more turnout for Trump. |
This is interesting:
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That's the extreme, but it is going to be shocking if it is not someone that holds some-kind of extreme views. |
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I would say it is a very strong possibility this is a ghost gun, as it is about the only way you could have gotten a weapon through the security protocol. They do sound similar to a regular gun though, depending on the caliber. |
Imagine trying to kill Trump and instead you end up dead and likely reelecting him.
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I don't think so. He's the favorite but this will mostly make angry people more angry. Retaliatory violence of some sort is more likely than than any electoral fallout. |
Sky News is saying 1 dead. Presumably the shooter?
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More from the local prosecutor. Always take this stuff with a grain of salt....
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30 seconds on Twitter will show you the civil war people are frothing at the mouth. |
Okay, I can come up with a "legitimate" (barely) firearm combo that could approximately make that sound -- suppressed subsonic rounds are not far from that -- though still bassier/deeper than what I hear -- throw in distance and sound quality, it's possible
Thing is though, that'd sure be a hella weird choice to make. Virtually no stopping power, at distance, and in a crowd where just slipping away unnoticed doesn't seem likely. |
Remember that time, like 2 days ago, when people speculated on what would happen if there was a national emergency and the president needed to step up?
Well we are here. |
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It also could be that they had the mics dialed in to record voice, causing the supersonic sounds to be muffled, because if there was return fire, it had a similar sound, and those wouldn't be subsonic. |
I'm still not understanding how the SS allowed him to stand up and strike the defiance pose for so long not knowing if the shooter was neutralized or if there were others. Just a bizarre scene. Surely that's not SOP in the manual.
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I think it's just a small caliber weapon and mics pick it up weird.
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TV is saying a rally attendee is dead and the shooter is "down".
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You can hear someone on stage say "shooter down" before they lift him up. |
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{hat tip} That does call into question whether we hear the (supposed) return fire. Good catch on the flaw with my theory for sure. |
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That's an awfully quick assessment of a chaotic situation with thousands of people around. |
Just watched an older guy covered in blood give an interview that said he was an er doctor and worked on an individual in the stands that took a shot to the head.
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It is really sad a rally goer was killed and that they will almost assuredly be politicized.
Biden needs to come out and condemn this and Trump needs to come out and say this was the work of a single, deranged person. Neither will happen and instead we are going to see an explosion in political violence. |
Of course Biden is going to condemn the shooting.
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I have already seen a large number of Democrats condemn this.
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Biden should have been briefed of this within two minutes.
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He should have already. All this does is feed the narrative he is slow to respond to a national emergency and every additional second he doesn't address the nation proves that. |
We've gone from Bush finishing reading a children's book to Biden having to be awakened at 6:30pm to be briefed.
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If this story is true....
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And again, all of this could end up being false, but..
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Better to work out excises for why he lost. Russians again? Jill Stein? Way more time to get creative. |
Reports are the shooter was on a roof. Killed seconds later by a secret service sniper.
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So a sniper from distance. How was there no coverage of any roof that had sight-line? That was a major Secret Service failure.
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whole thing was staged |
A whole lot of "ifs" with this obviously but ... IF the rooftop shooter turns out to be legit, can there be any way there's not a Congressional investigation of the Secret Service?
And IF everything is just like that BBC interview portrays, does Trump decline Secret Service protection at that point & use only his own people going forward? |
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They made a martyr out of they dumb nut job on January 6th, this person was just in the wrong place. |
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He's currently holding a press conference. |
the Secret Service has had so many problems over the past decade or so. People getting into the residence, prostitution scandals, drug use, now this. It's well past time they get shaken to the core.
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Not sure how you're going to stop this in America other than telling people to stop holding open air rallys.
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But they don't want to stop it. They want more of it. These are the GOP's "fine good people" |
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Absolutely unacceptable how long it took. |
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Not really IMO. He probably wanted to get as much reliable information as he could about the situation before commenting. |
Nonsense. He was being briefed and communicating with Trump's team. There's no benefit to jumping out first and getting things wrong.
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And here I thought not buying Jack Nicklaus 4 at Goodwill for 50¢ was going to be the worst part of my day. Instead someone fails to kill Trump and kills an innocent bystander, then my daughter has a panic attack at the state swim meet and I'm not there.
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He could have easily come out minutes after it happened, condemned it, then said he would brief the nation once he had more information.
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And what would that have accomplished? Not everything has to move at the speed of twitter.
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The pictures of the rooftop and the body of the shooter are shocking. He wasn't exactly well-hidden.
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Every trump rally from now on will have 75% of the crowd packing and some will open carry. This will cause everyone to draw weapons at the slightest flinch and the dumber of those opening fire every speech. All MAGAs are wiped off the planet in 28 days. |
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I would have shown the president is available and ready to address the nation at a moments notice in a crisis. Do you not realize the narrative is going to be he needed to be woken up? |
Now that we know it was a sniper, man that came close. It was a tough shot that nearly got there.
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some outlets (TMZ being one. I know...) are stating a secret service person as saying Trump's wounds were caused by pieces of a shattered teleprompter that was hit by a bullet
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Seen on twitter:
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Nor was he far away. WTF does the Secret Service even do? |
This is the most nervous and concerned I have been about our nation since 9/11
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Deep state |
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Not nearly as good as the fact that "Ben Simmons" is trending now. Which, of course, is silly. We all know Simmons wouldn't have taken the shot. |
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i don't know why. everything about it is business as usual |
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Markelle Fultz is the better joke but about 4 years too late. |
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The first version of that I saw was Bronny, so there was a contemporary version. edit to add: there's also a Klay Thompson version |
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it was a brony? |
Are we sure the shooter isn't MJ4H?
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He refused to accept his banning.
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just thinking....this is probably a good indication of how much they don't want to defend trump since he's hated by so many |
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maybe edward just to start another thread (j/k) |
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They're cops. They love the guy but are just incompetent. Except maybe this guy who got a shot off really fast.
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Seems Biden was at mass when the shooting happened, which was why it took some time for him to release a statement and speak.
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