We invest a lot in Israel, but they provide us with a boatload of technology and research. I had a prof in college who was a Psych prof, a class called sensation and perception, basically said in Israel they got tons of money for night vision and other useful war technology that is in turn supplied to the US. But that's for another conversation, people want to talk about why Palin is talking about Biden's Iraq war vote when it was a question about Darfur.

Biden needs to stop backtracking when he doesn't quite phrase things as he would like. When going up against someone like this, a few tiny missteps that go through won't be remembered.

Say what you will, but Palin makes Biden cringe every time she revisits his previous statements that Obama wasn't experienced enough to be commander in chief.

because she wanted to get her partisan attacks in -- she forgot to get them in when they were talking about Iraq

Old lesson from my radio days said to avoid calling attention to your mistakes like that since most people don't notice & trying to correct them just highlights them.

"John McCain knows how to win a war"

Wait, wasn't he in Vietnam?

Come on he's John MCCAIN...not John RAMBO

didn't he crash his plane...and then get shot down?

Mod: "How would your admin be different"
Joe: "I'd be just like Obama. Here's what I'd do"

SI

mavericks...mavericks...we get it palin

Shot down in Vietnam? He would have wound up as a POW. I'm sure we would have heard something about that by now.

When she"and heaven bid that would happen" was she referring to an Obama win or his death? :)

Ifill- "What will be your administration be like when you work with the mafia and have your president shot by a lone gun-man?"

I saw a movie once called Maverick. I don't want a guy like the lead character in that movie to be President.

I think the folksy shtick has officially worn off. Every time she goes to the Wasilla or Alaska card, the meter goes down.

SI

Man if I weren't watching the debate...between DaddyTorgo and SirFoz, I'd think that Binden was the next coming of Jesus Christ for how good he must be doing.

They're gonna out folksy each other. I love it. "I'm more Main Street than you."

Cute.

Did she go Unfrozen Caveman Governor on us?

""It's so obvious that I'm a Washington outsider, and I'm not used to how you guys operate,"



"Your Washington world frightens and confuses me...."

That's a fun movie

SI

It's nice to hear a politician actually talk about small "c" coservativism, government staying out of people's business, etc. I hope she really believes that. If so, I wonder what she thinks of the last eight years.

Yeah. He is not all that. He is doing a very good job, though.

Say it ain't so, Joe.

Wow, we got a "Say it ain't so, Joe" and a "dog gone it" in one sentence.

Biden actually came to debate. Palin hasn't given a complete answer to more then two questions.

Oh gosh golly gee.

I agree. He is doing well.

Awesome reference :D

SI

hey - i freely admit i love biden. i was pulling for him in the primaries even though i knew it was a longshot

may never see that again, ever! A Shout out from the VP debate podium.

Foz this isn't just with this debate, it is with every thing you post politically. Some of it is actually relevant, but then you start being borderline childish.

not in the least. when i say "allowing Palestine to have their own state", keep in mind it's not America's land to determine who gets what. it's not our fight. that having been said i think there's more in that region who would rather Israel not existing, and by removing that nation would appease more people and contribute more to peace than all these wasted accords and peace talks. Israel is that annoying twit in the schoolyard with an intimidating Big Brother standing behind him. Israel does not provide us with any valuable resources to make it worthwhile having them as an "ally". funny thing about being an ally, at some point Israel needs to show they can hold up their end of the bargain and can stand next to us in warfare. Britain is an ally. Israel is a mooch.

I just can't in any way, shape or form, imagine this woman as president. I could see Biden. Not her.

Is this the McCain campaign's new theme? "Stop living in the past"? We can't talk about records anymore?

Actually, Israel buys about $3 B from us in arms every year, if I recall the Camp David Accords correctly.

The U.S. is the biggest arms dealer in the world, and also by far the most advanced technologically (not that other nations don't contribute, of course).

When I hear her speak, I want to punch babies.

That shot on Cheney broke the CNN meter.

I've never imagined that I'd actually prefer to hear George W. Bush speak over someone.

Palin is "presentable" so long as she's not talking. At least Dan Quayle got elected to the Senate.

"Putting aside the pitchfork and hooves, what do you think about the current VP's giant throne-like chair?"

Everyone loved the "most dangerous Vice President ever" line.

SI

Now, this is where I'm supposed to say that she started it, right? Seriously, man. I'm mocking it because it deserves to be mocked. We might not as well have a debate if you show up, decide you're not going to answer the questions put to you by the moderator, and talk about something completely different midstream. This is apparently the only way they could get through Palin through the debate.

LMAO

wow, the VP statements showed a clear cut winner in the VP's role in gov't.

Meanwhile on Spike TV, there is a "debate" underway between Samoa Joe & Sting.

It's quite possible either of them might make a better President than any of the 4 actual candidates/understudies.

I don't think she's painfull. She's mostly funny. She's like character in a Hollywood movie about someone that woke up one morning and became a VP canididate.

LOL

did she just attribute Winthrop's "city on a hill" quotation to Regan?

wowwww

Biden goes to the dead wife card...

"yes, provide us with security that wil cost billions and as a token of our thanks - here's some nifty night vision goggles! YAY!"

I'd love to see Samoa Joe slap a rear naked choke on Ahmadinejad.. now that's foreign policy I can get behind.

Stop saying "maverick". I'm begging you.

Honestly, have you ever seen very many political debates. You just described 95% of the participants.

ROI = Maverick = FAIL