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Crapshoot 02-23-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby (Post 1400923)
Well when you think of love songs I think you have to avoid the schmaltzy and go for the downright deviant. That's why I'll go with The Kinks - Lola for my love song.

w00t Trannies!

Classic - Stairway to Heaven, Led Zeppelin (1-1)
Epic - Freebird, Lynyrd Skynyrd (3-1)
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song - Lola, The Kinks (5-1)
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover -
Cover - You Really Got Me, Van Halen (4-10)
Anti-Establishment - Fuck Tha Police, N.W.A. (2-10)


Subby wins. Lola is frigging amazing.

ntndeacon 02-23-2007 10:57 AM

I believe this song is better than the original version of the song. The original artist of this song has already been taken...Credence Clearwater Revival. However not only is this a very strong cover song it is also a woman that sings it.

Classic -
Epic - 2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd
Arena -
Trendsetter - 1.6 - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover - 4.5-I Can't Stop Loving You--Ray Charles
Cover - 5.6 - Proud Mary--Ike and Tina Turner
Anti-Establishment -3.6-London Calling--The Clash

Warhammer 02-23-2007 10:59 AM

My only issue with the song was when it was picked, not the song or category itself. Actually for Arena Rock, there are a few songs I am surprised are still on the board.

Subby 02-23-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1401013)
Cover - 5.6 - Proud Mary--Ike and Tina Turner

Easily your best choice so far...

Warhammer 02-23-2007 11:00 AM

ntn with a great pick there.

vtbub 02-23-2007 11:01 AM

Thinking

Logan 02-23-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1400964)
Aside from Gary Glitter, which could have been taken later, I really like Butter's list.


Ever since this pick was announced, I've been reading it as Gary Gorski.

wade moore 02-23-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1401016)
My only issue with the song was when it was picked, not the song or category itself. Actually for Arena Rock, there are a few songs I am surprised are still on the board.


I'm seeing more and more picks where I like the pick, just think it's early...

Makes me think that the few songs left that to me are pretty clear frontrunners might not be and that the draft has become pretty unpredictable.

Maple Leafs 02-23-2007 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1401013)
Cover - 5.6 - Proud Mary--Ike and Tina Turner

Very good pick... I'd hoped it would slip through to the next round for me.

vtbub 02-23-2007 11:05 AM

This time we reach for a love song, and while there are a billion love songs that could be played, I'm taking an older solo Paul McCartney one.

Love- My Love- Paul McCartney 3.7

NoMyths 02-23-2007 11:05 AM

Is it the 7th inning already?

adubroff 02-23-2007 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 1401013)
I believe this song is better than the original version of the song. The original artist of this song has already been taken...Credence Clearwater Revival. However not only is this a very strong cover song it is also a woman that sings it.

Classic -
Epic - 2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd
Arena -
Trendsetter - 1.6 - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party -
Crossover - 4.5-I Can't Stop Loving You--Ray Charles
Cover - 5.6 - Proud Mary--Ike and Tina Turner
Anti-Establishment -3.6-London Calling--The Clash



Have been lurking in this thread, when I read the rules the one song I thought of when I read a category was that one. It's the quintessential cover.

lordscarlet 02-23-2007 11:19 AM

This pick is actually made with some regret and remorse. I have what I feel is a very clever pick for Arena, but I don't want to pull a Houston Texans move here. I can't leave AC/DC on the board when my Arena spot is still empty. With the 8th pick of the fifth round I will take "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC.

Classic -
Epic -
Arena - 5.8 - "You Shook Me All Night Long", AC/DC
Trendsetter - 2.3 - "Rapper's Delight", The Sugarhill Gang
Love Song -
One-Hit Wonder -
Party - 4.3 - "(You Gotta) Fight for Your Right (to Party)", Beastie Boys
Crossover - 1.8 - "Walk This Way", Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
Cover -Anti-Establishment - 3.8 - "Killing in the Name", Rage Against the Machine

lordscarlet 02-23-2007 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adubroff (Post 1401027)
Have been lurking in this thread, when I read the rules the one song I thought of when I read a category was that one. It's the quintessential cover.


It was taken in the top 3 covers. :) I knew it would come off the board early in the covers list.

Maple Leafs 02-23-2007 11:22 AM

I didn't get any picks from Bucc... Crapshoot, are you around?

Lathum 02-23-2007 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1401032)
This pick is actually made with some regret and remorse. I have what I feel is a very clever pick for Arena, but I don't want to pull a Houston Texans move here. I can't leave AC/DC on the board when my Arena spot is still empty. With the 8th pick of the fifth round I will take "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC.




:mad:

cthomer5000 02-23-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1401032)
This pick is actually made with some regret and remorse. I have what I feel is a very clever pick for Arena, but I don't want to pull a Houston Texans move here. I can't leave AC/DC on the board when my Arena spot is still empty. With the 8th pick of the fifth round I will take "You Shook Me All Night Long" by AC/DC.


STEAL

wade moore 02-23-2007 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1401035)
I didn't get any picks from Bucc... Crapshoot, are you around?


Bucc put up his work e-mail address earlier, i'll dig it up, but I think you should e-mail him.

NoMyths 02-23-2007 11:28 AM

Is this the FOFC Music Draft, or the Guitar Hero playlist?

wade moore 02-23-2007 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1401035)
I didn't get any picks from Bucc... Crapshoot, are you around?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bucc
I'm going to work now and don't have access to FOFC. You can email me at sclark AT csu DOT org


There we go...

Crapshoot 02-23-2007 11:29 AM

I'm here if you need me to pick, but not for much longer.

MikeVic 02-23-2007 11:29 AM

Nice pick. I like lordscarlet's team top-to-bottom right now.

johnnyshaka 02-23-2007 11:32 AM

Can't believe AC/DC lasted this long!!!

wade moore 02-23-2007 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 1401046)
Can't believe AC/DC lasted this long!!!


Good steal, but I have to think that "Thriller" is the steal of this draft right now.

wade moore 02-23-2007 11:47 AM

FYI: I e-mailed Bucc just now.

cthomer5000 02-23-2007 11:51 AM

Thriller was a mega-steal. Total oversight for me... i hadnt even thought of it but then was like "damn! what a pick!"

KevinNU7 02-23-2007 12:09 PM

If I am judging the lists of 10 against each other then Thriller is a massive steal for Round 5. If I go category by category and compare thriller to the epics that have already been selected then I am less impressed.

Now if I was including music videos in the judging there would be a totally different perspective.

wade moore 02-23-2007 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7 (Post 1401064)
If I am judging the lists of 10 against each other then Thriller is a massive steal for Round 5. If I go category by category and compare thriller to the epics that have already been selected then I am less impressed.

Now if I was including music videos in the judging there would be a totally different perspective.


I think we could do this game again and come up with 10 totally different categories - Music Video could certainly be a good one.

cthomer5000 02-23-2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1401071)
I think we could do this game again and come up with 10 totally different categories - Music Video could certainly be a good one.


video and like "TV theme song" would be kind of cool.

KevinNU7 02-23-2007 12:23 PM

I was also thinking this exact thread but limited to 80s only.

lordscarlet 02-23-2007 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1401073)
video and like "TV theme song" would be kind of cool.


Or just "Soundtrack".

wade moore 02-23-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cthomer5000 (Post 1401073)
video and like "TV theme song" would be kind of cool.


Video
TV Theme
Movie Soundtrack
Combo (2 or more distinct artists together)
Frat Party Song



... hmm...

lordscarlet 02-23-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinNU7 (Post 1401077)
I was also thinking this exact thread but limited to 80s only.


Isn't that what some people are doing? :)

Logan 02-23-2007 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wade moore (Post 1401080)
Video
TV Theme
Movie Soundtrack
Combo (2 or more distinct artists together)
Frat Party Song



... hmm...


I think I would be a lot better at a game involving those categories than the ones being used now.

NoMyths 02-23-2007 12:27 PM

I'm off for awhile, but should be back in a couple of hours.

KevinNU7 02-23-2007 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1401081)
Isn't that what some people are doing? :)

only the awesome ones :)

Maple Leafs 02-23-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crapshoot (Post 1401044)
I'm here if you need me to pick, but not for much longer.

If you're still around, go ahead.

Maple Leafs 02-23-2007 12:48 PM

Something to look at as we wait for Bucc...

Through four rounds:

Classic
1.1 - Classic -Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin
1.3 - Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
1.5 - Yesterday - The Beatles
1.10 - Hotel California - Eagles
2.2 - Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones
3.2 - Foxy Lady- Jimi Hendrix

Trendsetter
1.2 - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana
1.6 - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
2.3 - "Rapper's Delight" - The Sugarhill Gang
2.4 - Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley
2.6 - Rock Around The Clock- Bill Haley and The Comets
2.8 - Respect - Aretha Franklin

Epic
1.4 - Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
2.1 - American Pie - Don Maclean
2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd
2.9 - BaBa O'Reilly (Teenage Wasteland) - The Who
3.1 - Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Epic
3.3 - The End - The Doors - Epic
3.7 - Layla - Derrick and the Dominoes - Epic
5.5 - Thriller - Michael Jackson - Epic

Arena
1.7 - Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses
3.4 - Rock and Roll (Part Two) - Gary Glitter
3.9 - Born in the U.S.A.- Bruce Springsteen
4.8 - Where the Streets Have No Name - U2
5.8 - You Shook Me All Night Long - AC/DC

Crossover
1.8 - Walk This Way - Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
3.5 - Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash
4.5 - I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles
4.7 - Superstition - Stevie Wonder

Anti-establishment
1.9 - Fight the Power - Public Enemy
2.7 - Anarchy in the UK - The Sex Pistols
2.10 - Fuck Tha Police - N.W.A.
3.6 - London Calling - The Clash
3.8 - Killing in the Name - Rage Against the Machine
4.1 - We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister
5.2 - American Idiot - Green Day
5.3 - Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival

Cover
4.4 - I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston
4.10 - You Really Got Me - Van Halen
5.6 - Proud Mary - Ike and Tina Turner

One-hit wonder
3.10 - MacLos Del Rio

Love Song
4.2 - Imagine - John Lennon
4.9 - At Last - Etta James
5.1 - Lola - The Kinks
5.7 - My Love- Paul McCartney

Party
4.3 - Fight for Your Right (to Party) - Beastie Boys
4.6 - 1999 - Prince
5.4 - Celebration - Kool and the Gang

Logan 02-23-2007 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1401107)
One-hit wonder
3.10 - MacLos Del Rio


What...could you not bring yourself to fully type "Macarena?" ;)

KevinNU7 02-23-2007 12:58 PM

I didn't realize that a few of the categories were almost complete

Maple Leafs 02-23-2007 01:09 PM

Crapshoot was here and then left... hopefully he comes back and we can get going again before the weekend.

Oilers9911 02-23-2007 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 1401109)
What...could you not bring yourself to fully type "Macarena?" ;)


I picked it and I could barely type it ;)

lordscarlet 02-23-2007 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oilers9911 (Post 1401129)
I picked it and I could barely type it ;)


You should definitely send in your picks if you may not be here later when Bucc shows up. :)

Crapshoot 02-23-2007 01:32 PM

Sorry, been busy. Give me 2 min.

Oilers9911 02-23-2007 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordscarlet (Post 1401144)
You should definitely send in your picks if you may not be here later when Bucc shows up. :)


I'll be here :)

Crapshoot 02-23-2007 01:37 PM

Picking for Bucc, as a One-Hit-Wonder,
I'll go with "Baby Got Back" by Sir Mix-a-Lot. The song needs no explanation, and no one's heard from Mix-a-Lot since.

wade moore 02-23-2007 01:40 PM

Not a bad one-hit-wonder pick.

Maple Leafs 02-23-2007 01:41 PM

Bucc e-mailed me a pick for round five, but I'll use it for round six once Oilers has picked.

adubroff 02-23-2007 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1401107)

Classic
1.1 - Classic -Stairway to Heaven - Led Zeppelin
1.3 - Like a Rolling Stone - Bob Dylan
1.5 - Yesterday - The Beatles
1.10 - Hotel California - Eagles
2.2 - Satisfaction - The Rolling Stones
3.2 - Foxy Lady- Jimi Hendrix


This category is interesting because the gap from 1-5 in total is probably not as big in my mind as the gap between 5 and 6.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 1401107)
Trendsetter
1.2 - Smells Like Teen Spirit- Nirvana
1.6 - Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
2.3 - "Rapper's Delight" - The Sugarhill Gang
2.4 - Heartbreak Hotel - Elvis Presley
2.6 - Rock Around The Clock- Bill Haley and The Comets
2.8 - Respect - Aretha Franklin


The first three songs are clearly seminal trendsetters, and if the criteria is which song is most directly responsible for a trend, then Smells is right where it belongs. It will be really interesting to see how people react to Smells vs Rappers...Smells is like 100% responsible for a 5 year trend, and Rappers is maybe 85% responsible for a 25 year trend that's been immense for the last decade. The 4th and 5th picks prove why neither of these songs was a trendsetter on the level of the first 3(two trendsetters for one trend?). Respect is a great song, and a solid move in terms of wrapping up a top woman, but I don't think of it as a trendsetter.

Quote:

Epic
1.4 - Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
2.1 - American Pie - Don Maclean
2.5 - Another Brick in the Wall — Pink Floyd
2.9 - BaBa O'Reilly (Teenage Wasteland) - The Who
3.1 - Freebird - Lynyrd Skynyrd - Epic
3.3 - The End - The Doors - Epic
3.7 - Layla - Derrick and the Dominoes - Epic
5.5 - Thriller - Michael Jackson - Epic


Great value as other have mentioned at 5.5. I don't think anybody pulled ahead/fell off much here

Quote:

Arena
1.7 - Welcome to the Jungle - Guns N' Roses
3.4 - Rock and Roll (Part Two) - Gary Glitter
3.9 - Born in the U.S.A.- Bruce Springsteen
4.8 - Where the Streets Have No Name - U2
5.8 - You Shook Me All Night Long - AC/DC


Also a list with a lot of parity. I don't know what to do with the Gary Glitter song...It's a good song to have because it's pervasive, but I feel like picking it so early takes away all it's sleeper value (every roto draft has one guy who drafts every sleeper pick and forgets to draft his studs). Also, I don't know if it fits in this category.

Quote:

Crossover
1.8 - Walk This Way - Run-D.M.C. feat. Aerosmith
3.5 - Ring of Fire - Johnny Cash
4.5 - I Can't Stop Loving You - Ray Charles
4.7 - Superstition - Stevie Wonder


I think this is a list where Walk this way is miles and miles ahead of anything else picked and it's hard for me to imagine anybody will match/top it.

Quote:

Anti-establishment
1.9 - Fight the Power - Public Enemy
2.7 - Anarchy in the UK - The Sex Pistols
2.10 - Fuck Tha Police - N.W.A.
3.6 - London Calling - The Clash
3.8 - Killing in the Name - Rage Against the Machine
4.1 - We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister
5.2 - American Idiot - Green Day
5.3 - Fortunate Son - Creedence Clearwater Revival


This is a strong list. I'm a Green Day fan but I don't think it has the game to be in this group.

Quote:

Cover
4.4 - I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston
4.10 - You Really Got Me - Van Halen
5.6 - Proud Mary - Ike and Tina Turner


It looks like a minirun on covers, I think Proud Mary is like an A+ and then the next cover is about a B-.

Quote:

One-hit wonder
3.10 - MacLos Del Rio


I think this is a quintessential one hit wonder but from a strategic sense, this is a bad pick...Even if it ends up being the best one hit wonder, this category will be easy to fill with something fairly representative and by it's very nature, you know the artist won't get used for something else.

Quote:

Love Song
4.2 - Imagine - John Lennon
4.9 - At Last - Etta James
5.1 - Lola - The Kinks
5.7 - My Love- Paul McCartney


Imagine is more miscast than most Hollywood movies here.

Quote:

Party
4.3 - Fight for Your Right (to Party) - Beastie Boys
4.6 - 1999 - Prince
5.4 - Celebration - Kool and the Gang

I think all three of these are great picks. The top two are more quinessential artists, but #3 as a song can stand right on par with the other two.

Oilers9911 02-23-2007 01:42 PM

With the 10th pick of the 5th round. I am (not) proud to select, in fact I think I just threw up in my mouth a little....

Love Song - Celine Dion - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic)

Classic - 1.10 Hotel California - The Eagles
Epic - 2.1 American Pie - Don McLean
Arena -
Trendsetter -
Love Song - 5.10 - My Heart Will Go On (Theme from Titanic) - Celine Dion
One-Hit Wonder - 3.10 Macarena - Los Del Rio
Party -
Crossover -
Cover -
Anti-Establishment - 4.1 We're Not Gonna Take It - Twisted Sister


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