I believe we're still facing three bad guys. I think at least two of them are Alan T, LSG, or Swaggs. The third may be in my circle of trust (probably extended circle).

Remember we still have Hyde and the WW out there. We also have Moriarty and Fagin as well. The WW might've visited a prostitute one night so that one will be hard to tell on the surface. Same thing with Hyde.

My internet connection is going in and out right now and Survivor is coming on. I'll be in and out until the lynch. Good luck to us.

Im out for the next 2 hours, hope we got alan

welp its 9. Thanks again for the game Chief. I'm buying you a calculator for christmas. I don't blame chief for my getting in trouble though, since I did mess up.

However before I go... no Im not lying about anything. Im leaving with everything i know which isnt much. I told you who I suspected based on what I know.


If raiders, Blade, Cronin are all good.. then I really have no clue who is bad this game.

Ive learned my lesson though I'm not going to play on business trips anymore.. its too tough and I keep messing up.

Anyways good luck villagers, sorry I played poorly this time out.

Don't we have 1 more hour til lynch?

I thought lynch was 9pm. I tell you.. Im just not with it =\

guess Ill come back in another hour for my farewell speech.

Is it? Day actions are due at 10 eastern... can't remember if lynch time has passed or not.

We have 1 more hour. Says so right in the topic title.

With DT, I can only confirm that he was Izulde's john last night, nothing more than that.

With bulletsponge and dubb, I can account for their whereabouts during intervals last night, again nothing more than that.

It seems fairly likely that neither is Mr. Hyde, but I would not commit to neither being the werewolf nor neither being Moriarty/Fagin/crew.

Well, there's something that's really bothering me. After I voted for Alan, I checked my PMs in regards to the money I spent and something doesn't add up... literally.

Unvote AlanT
Vote Blade

hoops, we've been over this:
one kill: Mr. Hyde
one kill: werewolf
one kill: Fagin/Moriarty

no kill: Lathum aka JTR

We are after AT LEAST three bad guys.

DC, Blade is a bad alternative. I'd strongly recommend you choose someone else.

Do we have a current vote count?

Whoopsie... I made a mistake. I looked pretty closely at my first 2 PMs and glanced really quick at my last one, didn't notice the last part of it.

Unvote Blade
Vote Alan

Sorry about that, I get distracted with my 2 year old.

I'm still catching up and about 2 pages behind, but I think I've seen enough to put a vote out there: Vote AlanT

home. do i need to change off alan?

not really.

heh... just reread my night 1 pm again about to send a fun little joke PM to chief and just noticed for the first time.. it costed me 3 shillings to replace stuff that was stolen. So night 1 was 13 - 5 = 8 - 3 = 5.

Guess I owe Chief an apology.... ok now you all can really put me out of my misery.

DT, I think it's probably too late. Too many votes on Alan, not enough people around who would have any interest in flipping back.

Hmm... at long last, we have something that holds together...

Dont really think it matters anyways. I messed up so many times on simple things I deserve to die.

I'm a basic role, so the village doesnt lose anything, and if you dont lynch me you'll be wondering if I was lying the rest of the game till I did die.

I'll be flying tommorrow anyways so wouldnt be able to even be around much anyhows (which after today probably is a good thing)

Goddamit, another piece of nugget I can confirm... ugh.

Unvote Alan
Vote Blade

I hate seesawing like this. My internet access is not reliable right now, so chances are that my vote is staying.

You have to understand, the corp office I am in is much different from my normal office. My normal office, I run the place, I have my own area, no one snooping at me or bugging me, etc.

When I come to the corp office, I get a tiny cube next to the VP I report to and am constantly getting bugged every 3 minutes by someone coming by to talk about stuff just because Im not there much.

Plus they don't even allow this site at the corp office, so I have to actually connect to a neoteris box that sits in the middle of India which I then log in to with a special account i have that I then can pass it URLs to this site to get here while at work.

The neoteris box likes to log me out every 5-6 pages though which forces me to constantly be relogging in. With it being halfway around the world, it takes like 1-2 minutes every page load with the latency plus SSL overhead plus proxying.

I basically tried to write down everything I could to notepad files on my laptop while in the hotel room so I could read this thread with as few page refreshes as possible. It wasnt that bad for me to jot down notes that people said during the day in the thread, but it was a royal pain to check my PMs, so I instead wrote down my PM in a notepad file in the hotel each morning before I left and then transposed.

The part I royally screwed up this game was my PMs.. I goofed them big time.. It probably was a mistake to play this game for me with my workload and traveling, but I'm a WW junkee I guess.

I've cooled down a bit about blade too. I dont fault him for coming after me today. I'm not mad or anything.. just disappointed that I short circuited myself on my typical day 3 in a game I was enjoying.

Wow. I think Alan DOES win for addict status.

Yeah, that's a lot of work involved to keep up.

wow alan. that's crazy. the village appreciates your sacrifice though. wow

Let's see what happens!!!

Its not too bad. I can read the page logged out still, so only have to deal with the latency. I just cant check PMs or post. Since I only get PMs with my role at the end of night time, that wasnt a big deal. But now you see why I logged in and did long posts all at once.

Yup.

I got 3 min still, don't be in such a rush to be rid of me!

Stop rushing my demise!

In fact, time for a real role reveal. I am really Hiro from heros. I traveled back in time to save london from Jack the ripper. now my job is done I am out of here!

Ok. -NOW- you can kill me.

So long all and thanks for all the fish

Well, dunno if anyone really believed me or not.. But I dont think I lied about one thing this entire game. The worst I ever got was held back information. but never lied once I can remember.

I figured I would try that out for once :) Anyways good luck village!

Dola when I said I held back information, I was referring to not wanting to out hoops. I probably would have mentioned my interaction with barkeep if I hadnt already screwed up once that morning with hoops's info. ahh well

lol...you're killing me. ;)

lol, I will make it easy for you. Alot of people voted for me and I'm lynched :)

Alan, I for one am sorry about the pile on, it was an honest mistake triggered by your honest mistake.

Sorry :o

No hard feelings at all for anyone. I screwed up big time. I would have done the same thing

so how much did you bid for the urchin alan? Can he still say?

Well I'm not dead yet, but I already corrected myself earlier. What I said earlier was true. I paid 6 shillings to bribe an urchin to follow Schmidty.

For whatever reason my notes said 7 and it was all downhill from there

Lol, thanks Chief, that lynch did me justice and made me laugh.

I might have lost my abacus, but I definitly have my calendar. I knew it was day 3 and time to check out!

Anyways thanks for the fun all. I'll pop back in when I can to keep up with how it goes :)

aaargh. so where do we turn now? fog tonight people...be wary of outdoors

Well, I'm guessing tomorrow's going to be lively.

:sigh:

I am fine with any and all options for both issues.

Agreed, my weekend schedule is pretty flexible.

I'm going to be doing things in the evenings this weekend, so I wouldn't mind the slower schedule (assuming I survive this night and tomorrow, of course).

I prefer a known deadline to something floating.

my saturday schedule is the same as today. my sunday i am going to the Pats game, so i'll be gone most the day.

either way works for me, however I would like to have a set deadline for lynch votes. I think that is always the way to go with deadlines in these games.

Id say firm deadlines, and id vote option 1 for timing, though i can do either

Sorry Alan, but when that mistake was made i had to run with it. It sucks that it was a mistake of typing, and not a lie, but in my shoes i think you would have done the same. Sorry it ended poorly, but all the errors you kept reporting were too much. See you soon, my time in this game is coming to a close i believe.

In case i die tonight, my trust list looks like this:
Hoopsguy
Barkeep
Raiders
Schmidty
Cronin
Mr. W

None of those are 100%, but its what i feel right now.

That leaves as semi trusted:
DaddyTorgo
Bulletsponge
Saldana
Izulde
Path
Dubb

And not trusted:
DC
LSG
Swaggs

This may be a bit out of left field, but who has actually visited hoops the prostitute? I dont remember, as i think i remember most others being reported. Im sure im just forgetful, but who can say they paid hoops 5 shillings for some fun? I know other prostitutes say he is one, but thats not what i want to hear right now.

i havnt visited hoops. i went back to Barkeep for the 2nd straight night. i guess he was good :)

And im going to ask something that yall can wait to answer till after night actions if you all want...

Can i get a list of all the prostitutes? Now that jack is dead, you have nothing to fear. But it would help me sort through everyone if i knew who was partaking in the fun and who was giving it.

Blade, I'd like to know why you don't trust me, I've been nothing but honest.

I dont really trust many people in your situation. You claim to be a normal villager, and there is where i am looking right at. My list of people unvouched for is smaller then the required 3 bad guys left. So someone somewhere is getting vouched for that shouldnt be, maybe more..so that leads me to believe that bad guys, or at least one of them, can go to prostitutes and what not. So i no longer trust the customers, and if im not mistaken your one of them.

So you no longer trust the customers, but yet you ONLY have 3 people on your untrusted list.

Gotcha.

The jump from trusted to semi-trusted is a massive one...from semi to not is miniscule..the ones in the semi have just made comments first(dubb, path), made enough to trust about bids(saldana) or been vouched for by people i trust(bullet, Izulde, DT). I dont remember anyone clearing you..sorry DC, knowing me you have to understand im trying to find a reason to trust you. But right now your down there with LSG and swaggs

Blade's just throwing his usual shit around. I'm taking a long hard look at him tomorrow.

Hey jackass, im trying here. Sorry alan turned up good, but he stated repeatedly he screwed up. It was not my fault he messed up, and i was trying to help. What the hell have you done for villagers? Thats what i thought jerk

Although, oddly enough, right now I'm coming from a similiar place. I don't trust many people, at all, and fewer than I did yesterday.

Settle down, fella. I agree I have been incredibly unhelpful. I blame Chief Rum for making the game too hard.

Well Izulde pretty much vouched for me:

Sorry for that outburst everyone, but its comments like that i hate...ill try not to do that again

But Izulde isnt a prostitute, is he? I thought he was a customer...and i dont think your a prostitute either...so unless im mistaken i put no weight into that. If i am mistaken, then im sorry. If hes a prostitute, ill move you to semi-trusted..if you are, and can get other prostitutes to confirm that, ill move you to trusted.

The trouble with this is that you are not claiming to be a prostitute, so assuming that the bad guys can visit prostitutes, and likewise assuming that Izulde did not assume that, we can no longer assume you are cleared. Otoh, you know what happens when you assume. So, where does that leave us?

No, Blade - the story is that Izulde is a prostitute and DC one of his customers.

Then why was izulde arrested? Or can none of the other prostitutes clear him?

Here's me vouching Izulde is a prostitute:


Here's my night action:


And DaddyTorgo:

i don't know why izulde was arrested but i certainly hope he was a prostitute, as i had already approached him when he got arrested, and i was out looking for action.

I still haven't figured that out. I will point out that only DC was willing to think about lynching him, though. Whether that means she's good or bad depends on what you make of Izulde. I'm inclined to think it makes her good, for reasons I outlined earlier in the day.

Uh... it makes an ass out of you and me?

I don't have anything else to say other than Fouts and Alan both seemed to have my role and they ended up good, so it's up to everyone's discretion as to where they'd like to go from there.

I know I'm good and I'm providing any info that crosses my path.

Can you then provide me a list of your nightly activities?

im not trying to interrogate you, your just the only one around right now.

As i speak DT is here though, so id like him to answer the same question

Yeah, I don't understand why Izulde was arrested, other than maybe she was in the wrong place at the wrong time, she was framed, or maybe converted after I visited her... I dunno.

I mean anything is possible in WW.

Yeah, no problem.

Night 0 - Stayed home, no PM or nothing. At first I thought about saving my money to hire an urchin but the more I thought about it, the more I figured someone else would outbid me.

Night 1 - I went out to Bishopsgate for some fun and hired Izulde. After a night of passionate love making, she tells me she saw Mr. W passing by. I come home and find out I was robbed.

Night 2 - Went to Cavell to find Izulde but she went with DaddyTorgo instead. I guess my schwang was too much for her. She gets arrested and I watch this with dubb, Mr. W, and bulletsponge.

And your finances over that time, including the robbery? Im just trying to work through the normal villager role, because i dont have it.

Don't take this the wrong way blade but I don't feel comfortable disclosing that information. For all I know, there might be hoodlums out there looking for people to rob and if I let it be known, I might be next. Not only that, if I choose to bid for the services of an urchin and people know how much I have, I can be easily outbid, and I wouldn't want that to happen.

Alright, I"m out for the night.

Fair enough for now

Now that I'm let out of jail and Jack's dead, I can tell you that a) I'm a prostitute and b) DC is a normal villager. She's the only client I've gotten any real role info on.

Nightly Actions: Night Zero - Nothing (missed the deadline by accident)

Night One- Stayed in at the Inn to build up $

Night Two - We know I was seeking out Izulde for some fun between the sheets, which I unfortunately didn't get.

Okay, I'm off to get some sleep. Won't be around cept for maybe a lil pop-on tomorrow in the late AM and then again tomorrow early evening for someone to summarize the day's events and then on right before lynch again. Stupid work.

note to everyone....i realize alan came up good, and blade led the charge, but lets not have the normal knee jerk reaction and automatically vote blade today....i love the trap he set, and it was only a combination of alans own mistakes that sprung it on himself...blade didnt do anything deceptive regarding alan, and i still have him very high on my trust list.

Agreed. I'm still looking long and hard at LSG and Swaggs today.

Blade, I have seen Barkeep and SnDvls (dead) as prostitutes and have seen enough supporting information to strongly believe that Izulde is the last onel

I have had two customers - Tyrith on Night 0 and Path on Night 2.

As much as I pushed for Blade (and the nowhere-to-be-seen Schmidty) to reveal information yesterday to help make my decision I'm with Saldana in saying that I want to see how today unfolds instead of automatically gunning for him. I still want to understand the information I saw on Night 2, but I'm hoping we have new and better information to work with as well.

Raiders, given that actions are currently being processed and you are around - would you be able to share how you know that Lathum went after me on Night 1? I would hate for that information to die with you.

If you are pretty sure someone else can tell the story in the event that you end up dead during these night actions then by all means keep it to yourself now ...

DOH!

Antmeister will have a kick out of that signature :rolleyes:

lol :)