the minute the funds are paid back they're free to act like the company they want. Until then they need to be thankful that we saved their asses and saved the free world at the same time. Jackasses

Who exactly do you think are the major shareholders of these companies anyway? Most shareholders aren't really going to being paying all that much attention.

+1

Libermann has said he will not help to break any filibuster if public option is included in Senate bill. Didn't Reid say he had the votes to push it through? I'm not sure he does.

Libermann is a POS. The guy's a Class A turd.

I double dog dare you Joe. Do you really have the nuts to be the person that stands between the resolution of a fifty year policy goal for the party you claim to admire? Do you really want that to be your lasting legacy?

Is Lieberman a Republican now? He seems to agree with them more often than not.

I don't follow him that much, but I do think he's a coward for his stance on the war.

I'd hate to break it to you but Joe isn't a slave of the democrats anymore.

I too dont think anyone should HAVE to vote along party lines or whatever so good for him IF that is what he believes. I think more politicians should stop being a slave to the party line whatever it is.

I agree, I think the party should have less power. I think the issue is that he's going against everything he's stood for and campaigned for over his career. It just seems like he's more concerned with getting attention than actually following through on his promises.

Except when he wants his Committee Chairmanship.

He's free to do what he wants, but his actions have consequences. He's said over and over that he's with the Dems on everything except the war and that he's the g to get healthcare done. Good luck getting reelected in CT with that filibuster on his resume. If he does this the only things he'll be remembered for will be blocking healthcare and cheering us into Iraq.

I doubt Reid has the balls to do it, but I hope it's made very plain to Joe that a vote against cloture will be a vote to strip him of all his chairs and committee assignments. He'd have fun as the junior member on the Committee for National Park Latrines and Trash Enclosures.

Looks like you may get your wish....


Obama Sucks

He's not the only one. Several moderate Democrats are also voicing their opposition to the public option. So he's not 'the person'.

So far he's the only one to say he'd vote against cloture. Everyone's free to vote how they wish on the bill, but part of the bargain in getting committee chairs is voting with the party on procedural votes. If Joe won't do that he shouldn't get the reward of chairs.

The good news is that I should get to vote against Lieberman in his next run. What a worthless P.O.S. he is. Strip him of everything, and shun him totally. I guess all the money he gets from insurance companies is more important than serving his voters.

It's somewhat refreshing that these kinds of comments are coming up about many of the long-term senators and representatives in the upcoming 2010 elections. If one of the biggest 'changes' in the Obama administration involves cleaning out quite a few of the old guys in Congress, then that's a good thing IMO.

Big news coming out of Pakistan with the terrorist bombing that has killed or injured scores of people. This is a big moment for the administration in this war. There's been growing sentiment in Pakistan to nail the Taliban hard. This will likely only further those beliefs and allow the Pakistani government to push forward even more in their offensive. If the U.S. and its allies can make a similar push from the other side, they could really put a pinch on the Taliban.

Which is why I don't understand why invest in the stock market these days. It seems like private equity, sovereign wealth funds, and hedge funds with high requirements to buy-in run these companies. You're just as better off as going to a casino and placing a bet on black at the roulette table.

Perhaps you should try index funds.

Yes! I threadkilled the Obama thread!

Has anyone checked on MBBF today?

I'm over in the MBBF hopes and predictions thread.

LOL!

Sting: Obama best person to handle world's 'mess' - Yahoo! News

So many LOL's. The fact that anyone would care or read that article. The fact that the media isn't considered liberal. The fact that Obama probably hopes it will persuade people. The fact that it will persuade someone. (Not an LOL, a scary thought)

Who the fuck cares what Sting thinks? How big a dumbass do you have to be to make a shitload of money and want the government to take more of it and spend it on bureaucratic nonsense? I don't even have a problem with him being altruistic (I definitely didn’t read the article but I am sure that has to be part of Stings “impassioned” plea) but why would Sting want to pays millions of dollars in tax dollars to "help" people when he is in fact just employing several more government jobs. Real charity would actually help people

Having just read a rather surreal pro-Obama rant by Jim Cornette of all people, my first thought was "how in the hell do Steve Borden's political views warrant mainstream press coverage".

Upon further consideration I'm guessing this involves the other Sting.

Totally missed it until tonight after it was referenced in a Lance Storm commentary on the Hogan hiring.


After reading Jimmy's, I figured anything on Earth was possible ;)

High-five?


I think index funds are the only way to go these days. That or bonds (which depends on the type of risk and returns you want).

Uhm... I would agree that the odds on Sting voting for Obama are nil.

He is from England and is not a U.S. citizen.

We need a flere chart here. :)

Awesome

Can we just all agree not to take political advice from anyone named a verb and stop all the confusion?

Oh so now it's just a verb? How typical that you can't even see the possibility of it being a noun. You're so biased and partisan it's unbelievable.

Just for reference...........

SchoolhouseRock - A Noun is a Person, Place, or Thing


SchoolhouseRock - Verb: That's What's a'Happenin'!

But where can I get my adverbs?

SchoolhouseRock - Lolly, Lolly, Lolly, Get Your Adverbs Here!

So, who's read the House version of the health reform bill?????

Bill: Now I go to the House of Representatives, and they vote on me.
Boy: If they vote yes, what happens?
Bill: Then I go to the Senate and the whole thing starts all over again.
Boy: Oh no!
Bill: Oh yes!

Somebody should read the full text and do a dynasty thread.

FOFC has experienced enough tragedy over the past few years. Let's not add to it.

Interesting report about the stimulus package from CBS News. I don't think many people would be surprised that there were measurement errors when detailing job production.

dola

Looks like the GOP is going to offer up an alternative bill to counter their issues with the Dem. proposal.

GOP Set to Propose Its Own Health Bill - WSJ.com

I'll believe it when I see it. Roughly 140 days ago he said the same thing.

great!

I'll summarize the GOP bill...

Lower taxes on the corporations and give them incentives to provide better healthcare. Lower taxes on the wealthy and expect changes in insurance company practices.

I'll be disappointed if the bill does not end lifetime caps on policies, include tort reform, and eliminate pre-existing illnesses/injuries from consideration.

No fines and making it easier on small businesses will likely be in there as well.

There's no way to increase coverage and eliminate caps and preexisting conditions without a mandate. Doing the former without the latter will result in an even greater explosion of insurance costs.

JudicialWatch.org has done a good job researching the NEA/Obama campaign connection where tax dollars were being funded to the foundation for partisan means. Probably will see some funding pulled from the NEA......

JW Obtains More Documents Regarding NEA's Conference Call Encouraging Artists to Promote Obama Political Agenda | Judicial Watch

I just received an e-mail from our President in case anyone is wondering what he's been up to today......