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JPhillips 08-21-2017 01:56 PM

Grant's memoirs isn't the first thing to read, but it is an exceptional piece of writing.

JPhillips 08-21-2017 02:10 PM



kingfc22 08-21-2017 02:23 PM

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Of course he did :lol:

Thomkal 08-21-2017 02:27 PM

Catton was my Civil war era historian of choice during college.

JPhillips 08-21-2017 05:01 PM

I've now seen at least three different times Trump looked at the sun including one where he took off his glasses to do so.

Julio Riddols 08-21-2017 05:39 PM

The sun is fake news, we all know this.. It's a shill for Soros and the earth is flat, so Donnie's gonna expose that shit just like he has exposed all the corruption in government and become the greatest president of our time. MAGA you cucks!

bbgunn 08-21-2017 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Julio Riddols (Post 3171496)
The sun is fake news, we all know this.. It's a shill for Soros and the earth is flat, so Donnie's gonna expose that shit just like he has exposed all the corruption in government and become the greatest president of our time. MAGA you cucks!

Don't give the The_Donald subreddit any ideas!

JPhillips 08-21-2017 08:17 PM

Wow, coordinating military, diplomatic and economic power! Who but Trump could have ever thought of that?

Easy Mac 08-21-2017 08:17 PM

so we're invading pakistan now?

Jas_lov 08-21-2017 08:19 PM

I thought Trump was against getting more involved in these middle east quagmires. Isn't that a reason people voted for him?

JPhillips 08-21-2017 09:18 PM

Who will have the courage to leave?

Not Bush or Obama and now not Trump.

RainMaker 08-21-2017 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jas_lov (Post 3171525)
I thought Trump was against getting more involved in these middle east quagmires. Isn't that a reason people voted for him?


Neocons always win out. His supporters don't care.

Thomkal 08-22-2017 06:36 AM

This guy will be joining the Trump administration soon I think:

Idaho state rep shares conspiracy theory accusing Obama of staging Charlottesville

bronconick 08-22-2017 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3171535)
Who will have the courage to leave?

Not Bush or Obama and now not Trump.


In hindsight, we should have left once Bin Laden was dead. That was the whole reason we gave a damn about that craphole. The British and Soviets couldn't pacify it, why should we bother?

BYU 14 08-22-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3171557)
This guy will be joining the Trump administration soon I think:

Idaho state rep shares conspiracy theory accusing Obama of staging Charlottesville


Brilliant, so not only set up the rally, but somehow orchestrates Trump's inflammatory response as well.

How do some of these guys get elected? Oh wait...

Noop 08-22-2017 08:02 AM

I have to say while I didn't vote for the man I must certainly say he has entertained me. Who do the democrats have lined up that can beat Trump in a general election? Biden?

BYU 14 08-22-2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop (Post 3171568)
I have to say while I didn't vote for the man I must certainly say he has entertained me. Who do the democrats have lined up that can beat Trump in a general election? Biden?


Potentially, Booker is always in the conversation as well. I myself like Joe Manchin, who is more moderate and would appeal to a wider cross section of voters IMO. Of course the party seems intent on gravitating further left, which I think is a mistake.

PilotMan 08-22-2017 11:07 AM

So the headline for the email mailer from the WH today is:
"New American Strategy For Afghanistan Will Undo Past Failures"



Without even reading the email, or hearing anything about his speech yesterday, it strikes me that this is an example of a major issue with this President. I'm not sure that attempting to undo history is the best foot forward toward a winning solution in anything. Progress is about going forward, and certainly recognizing mistakes and acknowledging them is necessary, for success in the future. However, the end goal shouldn't be to undo history.



It's also indicative of the whole statue argument. In cases, like Gettysburg, where you are literally acknowledging and preserving history to tell a tale of an event, not all statues are representative of that. To simply remove them doesn't erase or change history, but it acknowledges that maybe the correct path forward doesn't involve that statue. That's a completely different argument than erasing history, which would be that we outlaw anything that even proves that the confederacy ever existed in the first place.

Bee 08-22-2017 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3171569)
Potentially, Booker is always in the conversation as well. I myself like Joe Manchin, who is more moderate and would appeal to a wider cross section of voters IMO. Of course the party seems intent on gravitating further left, which I think is a mistake.


I've known Joe for 25 years. He would be a great president but like you said I don't think he could win the nomination and I don't think he thinks he could win it either.

BYU 14 08-22-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bee (Post 3171596)
I've known Joe for 25 years. He would be a great president but like you said I don't think he could win the nomination and I don't think he thinks he could win it either.


I have always been impressed by him, and for the life of me I can't get why either party would spurn a candidate that might have some crossover appeal. Both within the house/senate and among the population.

larrymcg421 08-22-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BYU 14 (Post 3171569)
Potentially, Booker is always in the conversation as well. I myself like Joe Manchin, who is more moderate and would appeal to a wider cross section of voters IMO. Of course the party seems intent on gravitating further left, which I think is a mistake.


Booker wouldn't be moving further left from Obama or Hillary. Manchin would be moving very far to the right. I like Manchin as a Senator from West Virginia and have gotten into numerous arguments from strategically brain dead people on the left who think we should primary both him and Heidi Heitkamp, but he's completely wrong as the Presidential nominee for the Democratic Party.

stevew 08-22-2017 01:05 PM

Manchin/Sanders/Warren/Clinton/Biden are all in their 70s by 2020 and should be unfit to serve.

Kodos 08-22-2017 01:08 PM

Surely we can cross Clinton off the list. She had her shot against the weakest candidate in memory and still lost.

corbes 08-22-2017 02:06 PM

Please let us be done with our parents' generation as presidential candidates. They've had their time and say, move along.

stevew 08-22-2017 02:29 PM

The fight is not against rich and poor and D and R. It is time to vote out as many boomers as possible because they've totally ran the country into the ground while building a giant and often times untouchable nest egg for themselves.

JPhillips 08-22-2017 02:32 PM

What would be Manchin's platform? He's great with local issues, but what would he sell as his policies for the economy and who would be excited by those policies?

PilotMan 08-22-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by corbes (Post 3171621)
Please let us be done with our parents' generation as presidential candidates. They've had their time and say, move along.


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Originally Posted by stevew (Post 3171628)
The fight is not against rich and poor and D and R. It is time to vote out as many boomers as possible because they've totally ran the country into the ground while building a giant and often times untouchable nest egg for themselves.


Holy shit YES!!!

Bee 08-22-2017 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3171629)
What would be Manchin's platform? He's great with local issues, but what would he sell as his policies for the economy and who would be excited by those policies?


Didn't we abandon running on policies and platforms about 30 years ago? :D

I'm sure he could say he's in favor of more jobs and against more taxes and 60% of the population would be satisfied. :lol:

albionmoonlight 08-22-2017 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by albionmoonlight (Post 3148635)
McConnell is one of the most gifted politicians I've ever seen.

The fact that he looks like a huge goober leads to constant underestimation. But if you just look at his track record, it's pretty amazing.


Out of all the people who might take down Trump, my money's on the goober.

Trump, McConnell not on speaking terms: report - MarketWatch

albionmoonlight 08-22-2017 05:54 PM

dola:

If McConnell does end up spearheading a successful GOP revolt against Trump, it would be totally amazing that a guy could be the head of one branch of government and end up dictating the personnel of both other branches (Garland/Gorsuch)

cuervo72 08-22-2017 06:14 PM

"McConnell is privately questioning his competency"

Well effing welcome to the party, Mitch.

Groundhog 08-22-2017 06:29 PM

The photo of Trump looking into the sun is so perfect that it almost validates him being voted into office in the first place. Almost.

stevew 08-22-2017 07:43 PM

It takes something like 4000 cops to keep a city like Pittsburgh in order. I'm guessing that will be more than enough troops to get Afghanistan pacified.

JPhillips 08-22-2017 10:31 PM

I love that Trump is now claiming that nobody thought 1% GDP growth was possible.

PilotMan 08-22-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Groundhog (Post 3171659)
The photo of Trump looking into the sun is so perfect that it almost validates him being voted into office in the first place. Almost.


It is, without words, the definitive statement on Trump, and his entire presidency. Dennis Green couldn't have said it better.

bbgunn 08-23-2017 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PilotMan (Post 3171709)
It is, without words, the definitive statement on Trump, and his entire presidency. Dennis Green couldn't have said it better.

"If you wanna crown 'em, go ahead and crown their ass"? ;)

Noop 08-23-2017 08:25 AM

So is it fair to say that there are no viable candidates from the Democrats? I agree with the earlier comment about no more last generation democrats. I would prefer someone who is more moderate versus the wide left (who like the wide right scares me to death).

digamma 08-23-2017 08:34 AM

In 2013, who would you have said was a viable republican candidate? Jeb? Rubio?

A lot can change in two years.

Noop 08-23-2017 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by digamma (Post 3171733)
In 2013, who would you have said was a viable republican candidate? Jeb? Rubio?

A lot can change in two years.


I agree but those were at least known prospects. At this point I think I am going to vote for Dewayne "The Rock" Johnson.

Atocep 08-23-2017 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Noop (Post 3171740)
I agree but those were at least known prospects. At this point I think I am going to vote for Dewayne "The Rock" Johnson.


2 years out Obama wasn't really considered a viable candidate and was largely an unknown outside of those that really follow politics.

In another year or so we should start to get a feel for who's viable for 2020.

Easy Mac 08-23-2017 09:54 AM

I asked my wife that if we won the lottery and offered Trump our winnings and could find someone to guarantee him a TV show, if he would step down.

I honestly think there's a 75% chance he'd take it.

Kodos 08-23-2017 10:05 AM

Win, Easy. Win!

JPhillips 08-23-2017 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3171743)
I asked my wife that if we won the lottery and offered Trump our winnings and could find someone to guarantee him a TV show, if he would step down.

I honestly think there's a 75% chance he'd take it.


During the campaign I suggested offering him a billion to drop out.

Easy Mac 08-23-2017 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kodos (Post 3171746)
Win, Easy. Win!


She said I wasn't allowed. I said, what good is lottery winnings if everything is so radioactive there's nothing we can buy.

Radii 08-23-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3171759)
She said I wasn't allowed. I said, what good is lottery winnings if everything is so radioactive there's nothing we can buy.



You can afford to make your bunker a good 10 feet deeper than everyone else around you!

Thomkal 08-23-2017 03:46 PM

Trump supporters post fake photos of huge crowds at Phoenix rally - as real images show room half-empty

bronconick 08-23-2017 04:02 PM

Yeah, Trump keeps importing the people from the 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers parade to his rallies.

BYU 14 08-23-2017 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 3171812)
Yeah, Trump keeps importing the people from the 2016 Cleveland Cavaliers parade to his rallies.


I saw these earlier and wondered how living here for 23 years I could have missed seeing this part of the city before :)

JPhillips 08-23-2017 06:51 PM

And the "followers" are probably Russian bots.

Groundhog 08-23-2017 06:58 PM

How many times is the same twitter guy going to be able to successfully fool people with the same Cavs parade image?


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