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Chief Rum 01-30-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MylesKnight (Post 1933979)
Big Game late tonight out west as "arguably" (that's for you Pac-10 & UCLA Homers) the two best teams on the left coast tip off at 11:00pm Eastern... St. Mary's and Gonzaga.


Ha! I like both of those teams.

Your statement is wrong, of course, but they're still two very good basketball teams. ;)

Chief Rum 01-30-2009 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1934076)
UCLA waxing Cal at Pauley. Not too surprising. Cal hasn't won @Ucla in a while.


You sure about that? I haven't looked it up or seen mention of it recently, but I think UCLA just went through a weird stretch for five years where Cal kept beating them at Pauley. Two of those years they were really bad (Lavin's last year and Howland's first), but otherwise they were usually pretty good, and yet they always managed to give away the home game against Cal. And then oddly enough, they usually beat Cal on the road.

Karlifornia 01-30-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 1934120)
You sure about that? I haven't looked it up or seen mention of it recently, but I think UCLA just went through a weird stretch for five years where Cal kept beating them at Pauley. Two of those years they were really bad (Lavin's last year and Howland's first), but otherwise they were usually pretty good, and yet they always managed to give away the home game against Cal. And then oddly enough, they usually beat Cal on the road.


I'm absolutely not sure about that at all....I suppose I could look it up......

....nah

Chief Rum 01-30-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1934124)
I'm absolutely not sure about that at all....I suppose I could look it up......

....nah


Ha, me neither. :)

Seriously, it only comes from my memory of continually being frustrated by losing at home to Cal repeatedly. ;)

Butter 01-30-2009 07:34 AM

Hell of a comeback by Clemson last night. KC Rivers went out of his mind for most of the 2nd half. Great great road win. Very happy to see the usually road-phobic Tigers pull one out like that.

clemsonfan 01-30-2009 04:14 PM

Let me just say, I love Oliver Purnell. If only he could get our boys to hit free throws, he would be awesome.

Radii 01-31-2009 01:06 PM

I haven't watched much of the game, but Wake Forest looks to have struggled with Georgia Tech all day, leading by 4 with 2:30 to go.

hoopsguy 01-31-2009 01:09 PM

Pitt just punished the Irish in the second half of their game. ND hit 11 threes in the first half, had a 6 point lead, and ended up with 12 threes and a 13 point loss.

Radii 01-31-2009 01:15 PM

Major screwup by Wake. They had the ball up 2 with 1:10 left or so after Tech missed a chance to tie the game. Wake held the ball, after a screen Wake's center ended up with the ball at the top of the key with about 2 seconds left on the shot clock. He didn't take the shot, passed to the wing and the shot clock expired. Georgia Tech got a basket and its tied. Wake ball with 7.3 left.

Radii 01-31-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hoopsguy (Post 1934991)
Pitt just punished the Irish in the second half of their game. ND hit 11 threes in the first half, had a 6 point lead, and ended up with 12 threes and a 13 point loss.


Up to 5 losses in a row now, that pretty much nullifies any earlier conversation about Notre Dame's status. They're fucked.

Radii 01-31-2009 01:18 PM

Wake Forest throws away the inbounds pass, poor bounce pass that just went straight out of bounds... Ga Tech ball with 7.3 left.

Radii 01-31-2009 01:19 PM

Georgia Tech jumper is GOOD with 1.0 left. Wake timeout, down 2 with just a desparation look left.

Radii 01-31-2009 01:22 PM

So now in between really really good wins vs Duke, North Carolina, and Clemson, Wake Forest has had complete breakdowns in the final minutes of losses to Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech. Craziness...

hoopsguy 01-31-2009 01:37 PM

Wake's game management down the stretch against Duke did not leave much to be desired either. I guess it is not a shock with a young club, but you do not necessarily expect that out of a team with the collection of wins that Wake has collected this year.

JonInMiddleGA 01-31-2009 02:22 PM

Odd note about GT-Wake, as the Aminu's are only the second brother pair to face each other in an ACC game, joining the Montgomery's of Wake & Maryland in 1969.

Just kind of surprised me that it had only happened twice.

Radii 01-31-2009 04:43 PM

Mike Copeland is an idiot. I'll let Wolfpack expound on classless behavior by the UNC reserves at the end of the game. At least Roy appeared to be appropriately pissed off at his own guys.


NC State kept making runs in the second half to keep it interesting but Carolina gets the win in Raleigh.

Karlifornia 01-31-2009 05:10 PM

Stanford got destroyed at Pauley Pavilion today. They looked like a high school team on both ends of the court. For Chief and Bug:

-J'Mison Morgan is gonna be real good once he gets in shape.

-Alfred Aboya is the most improved player in the conference. EDIT: Besides Jordan Hill

-Josh Shipp...meh

-Darren Collison is super annoying if you're a fan of the team UCLA is playing.

-Jrue Holiday is awesome. Enjoy this year, because he's one and done.

cartman 01-31-2009 05:25 PM

If you can get the game, the Texas-Kansas State game is going into OT. K-State lead by 17 at one point in the 2nd half, and the Horns battled back to tie the game with their final possession in regulation. Great game so far. Denis Clemente has been unconscious for the Wildcats, scoring 40 so far.

cartman 01-31-2009 05:54 PM

K-State gets the win in OT. Clemente ended up with 44 points.

miami_fan 01-31-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 1935057)
Mike Copeland is an idiot. I'll let Wolfpack expound on classless behavior by the UNC reserves at the end of the game. At least Roy appeared to be appropriately pissed off at his own guys.


NC State kept making runs in the second half to keep it interesting but Carolina gets the win in Raleigh.


I don't know if I can blame Copeland. I am pretty sure he just expected McCauley to give him the dunk.:rolleyes:

Honestly, I was shocked that the NC State player actually put Copeland on his ass. No need to run to the refs, no need to cry to the media afterwards. Take care of it on the court and move on.

dawgfan 01-31-2009 07:16 PM

Nice win on the road in Tempe for the Huskies, beating the Sun Devils 84-71 to remain tied for first in the Pac-10. The UW appears to be a tournament team again after treading water the last two years...

Wolfpack 01-31-2009 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 1935057)
Mike Copeland is an idiot. I'll let Wolfpack expound on classless behavior by the UNC reserves at the end of the game. At least Roy appeared to be appropriately pissed off at his own guys.


NC State kept making runs in the second half to keep it interesting but Carolina gets the win in Raleigh.


Meh, didn't get to see the game, but did listen to it on the radio, so I can't vouch for the classless behavior other than the dunk punking.

But, if you like: "OMG!!!1! What a classlus Hole jrk! he f'ing deserved it!1! lol!!111!""

:D

mckerney 01-31-2009 09:25 PM

Nice win for Northwestern. Great to see the Badgers drop 6 straight, while Wisconsin's team gets 11 Ws in a row as Marquette takes down Georgetown.

Chief Rum 02-01-2009 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1935071)
Stanford got destroyed at Pauley Pavilion today. They looked like a high school team on both ends of the court. For Chief and Bug:

-J'Mison Morgan is gonna be real good once he gets in shape.

-Alfred Aboya is the most improved player in the conference. EDIT: Besides Jordan Hill

-Josh Shipp...meh

-Darren Collison is super annoying if you're a fan of the team UCLA is playing.

-Jrue Holiday is awesome. Enjoy this year, because he's one and done.


--The question is whether he ends up doing that for UCLA. He's not entirely happy with his PT, and he might leave before he figures out he's in the best place for him.

--Yeah, Aboya has really surprised me, particularly with former trouble areas, like his range, foul trouble and free throw shooting. All of those areas have improved tremendously. Oh, yeah, on Hill's tremendous.

--Shipp has really always been a meh. He has been talked up a lot, but he really is one of the more overrated players around. That said, he's been playing better of late, shooting the three better by a good stretch, and he has been more agressive in most games this year than he has been since his frosh year.

--Glad he came back. :)

--Holiday says he's staying for two at least. Not sure I buy that either, especially if his game continues to improve. But a guy can dream, right?

I like Dawkins. I think he'll get Furd going back in the right direction again. Just bad timing with Trent Johnson leaving the same year the Lopez twins book.

Mizzou B-ball fan 02-01-2009 10:05 AM

Whoo boy. The loss by Texas to KSU and the win by Mizzou over Baylor this weekend sets up a HUGE game in Austin on Wednesday. It's a must win for Texas if they want to remain in reach of OU and stay even with MU. A win on the road by the Tigers would put them solidly in 3rd position with OU still having to play at Mizzou Arena.

Mizzou B-ball fan 02-01-2009 10:20 AM

Pat Knight: Frustration or fighting for his players?

YouTube - Pat Knight Ejected

Dr. Sak 02-01-2009 12:34 PM

If anyone has the Big Ten Network, there is a good game between Penn State and Michigan State going on now. Talor Battle for Penn State is on fire!

hoopsguy 02-01-2009 12:48 PM

Wow, who would have believed at the start of the season that MSU would take home losses to Northwestern and Penn State?

I know, lot of time left to play.

hoopsguy 02-01-2009 12:53 PM

OK, PSU is trying really, really hard not to close. Have missed front end of one-and-one twice, now blew a two foot shot. MSU on the line with a chance to cut it to three and Pringle is fouled out.

Dr. Sak 02-01-2009 12:57 PM

Penn State is horrible from the line.

Dr. Sak 02-01-2009 01:04 PM

5 of 13 from the line isn't going to win you many games.

Dr. Sak 02-01-2009 01:13 PM

Nice win for the Nittany Lions! I still think they need 23 wins to get in the tourney.

miami_fan 02-02-2009 06:17 AM

Bobby Knight in the SEC?
 
Report: Bob Knight interested in vacant Georgia Bulldogs job - ESPN

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Georgia may be on Bob Knight's mind.

A source close to the legendary coach told the Atlanta Journal Constitution on Sunday that if Knight were offered the Bulldogs job, he would take it.

"He doesn't want it to look as if he's pursuing the job. He'd like to be offered it, and if offered, he'd take it," the source said.

"He doesn't want it to look as if he's looking for work, but I can assure you that he'd like to have the job. It's the idea of coaching a team in the Southeastern Conference that appeals to him. There are just so many things he could do for Georgia basketball. This would be his last stop, and he likes that."

Georgia fired Dennis Felton last Thursday after the Bulldogs got off to a 9-11 start and were 0-5 in the SEC. Associate coach Pete Herrmann was named interim coach for the remainder of the season.

Knight, 68, left Texas Tech in the middle of the 2008 season. The winningest coach in college history with 902 victories coached the Raiders from 2001-08 after a 29-year run at Indiana that ended in controversy. After leaving Texas Tech, Knight has served as an analyst for ESPN.

"I have never said that I wouldn't coach again," Knight said in a statement. "I've simply said in the past, if the right situation came along, I would be interested."



miami_fan 02-02-2009 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1935261)
Pat Knight: Frustration or fighting for his players?

YouTube - Pat Knight Ejected


Irresponsible. Twelve point game with 9 plus minutes and you get yourself tossed over that? It is not like his player was injured or anything.

Mizzou B-ball fan 02-02-2009 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by miami_fan (Post 1936212)


If true, there would be a HEAVY backlash at Texas Tech. It would make his departure look more like a move to get his kid a coaching spot and take himself out of a job that he didn't want at that point.

With that said, no one who associates with Knight should be shocked by his motives.

Kodos 02-02-2009 02:26 PM

Knight just wants to be able to wear a red sweater.

sterlingice 02-02-2009 08:39 PM

Baylor/Kansas is fun to watch for the pace. But, man, Kansas is young and it shows. Maddeningly inconsistent- flashes of really nice play but a lot of dumb rookie mistakes.

SI

JonInMiddleGA 02-02-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou B-ball fan (Post 1936228)
It would make his departure look more like a move to get his kid a coaching spot and take himself out of a job that he didn't want at that point.


Funny, I wasn't aware there was really any question about either of those points.

As for the Knight to UGA news, all I can say is that as much as I'd enjoy watching coverage of him on a local daily basis, I hope he doesn't take the job since I realized when the story broke that it could probably be the one thing that would at least move me toward neutral on those damned Dawgs. And I don't think my nervous system could survive that sort of shock.

rjolley 02-02-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by sterlingice (Post 1936601)
Baylor/Kansas is fun to watch for the pace. But, man, Kansas is young and it shows. Maddeningly inconsistent- flashes of really nice play but a lot of dumb rookie mistakes.

SI

I felt the same way watching them play Nebraska last week. Definite talent, but totally inconsistent. They should more consistent by March and should be a tough out.

Radii 02-02-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1936606)
As for the Knight to UGA news, all I can say is that as much as I'd enjoy watching coverage of him on a local daily basis, I hope he doesn't take the job since I realized when the story broke that it could probably be the one thing that would at least move me toward neutral on those damned Dawgs. And I don't think my nervous system could survive that sort of shock.



Hah, I'm rather liking the prospect. The coach I dislike more than any other coaching one of the two schools I've learned to hate with a passion. Would be awesome.

sterlingice 02-02-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rjolley (Post 1936610)
I felt the same way watching them play Nebraska last week. Definite talent, but totally inconsistent. They should more consistent by March and should be a tough out.


I'm a little torn on that matter- they have put up 6 wins in a row, 3 on the road, but pretty much all have been against the dregs of the Big XII. The schedule gets a lot more interesting with @Baylor (Big Monday), @Mizzou (rivalry game, Big Monday), @KState (rivalry game), and @Oklahoma (Big Monday) in the next 3 weeks.

I have no illusions that we're making a Final Four run. But, I could see this team out in the first round as easy as making the Sweet 16. This team is just way too young and just too inconsistent. The parts are nice but they definitely need a year or two of seasoning.

SI

Groundhog 02-02-2009 09:23 PM

Heard a funny story about Knight yesterday.

A little over 10 years ago he was conducting a basketball camp over here for some of our elite youngsters, and my mate was invited. Just before the camp he injured his knee pretty badly, so he couldn't participate in any of the drills, and was just sitting down and watching the camp.

Halfway through the first session Knight walks up to him and asks him what he's doing just sitting there. My mate says he's injured and can't play, so Knight then tells him that no one gets a free ticket to watch his training camps, and that there were chairs that needed stacking. Quite a few chairs in fact. As soon as Knight walked off my mate looked at his coach, who just sort of whispered to him "I think you'd better stack those chairs", so he had to hobble around and stack chairs for half an hour on a very painful knee.

Mizzou B-ball fan 02-03-2009 09:44 AM

Sounds like it's questionable whether James will play for Texas on Wednesday against Mizzou. He had a MRI on his knee yesterday. Mobility is reportedly limited, though I'm sure he'll play if it's at all possible.

Radii 02-03-2009 07:50 PM

No defense allowed in Chapel Hill tonight. Maryland shoots 55% in the first half and scores 44 points. Unfortunately for them, North Carolina is shooting 50% overall and a ridiculous 73% from 3 point range(11-15).

Its 60-44 Tar Heels at the half. 4 tar Heels in double figures already, Ellington has 21.

Radii 02-03-2009 08:51 PM

Apparently there is a video of Mississippi's coach Andy Kennedy being arrested in December.

Video shows Mississippi coach Andy Kennedy pleading with Cincinnati police - ESPN

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A newly released police video shows Mississippi basketball coach Andy Kennedy pleading with an officer before his arrest on an assault charge.

"I'm begging you ... this is a major deal, man," Kennedy told police.

He added: "This is going to be a national incident, sir."

Kennedy was arrested in downtown Cincinnati on Dec. 18 after a taxi driver said Kennedy hit him and used racial slurs.

On the video broadcast by WLWT-TV in Cincinnati, an officer warned Kennedy to do what police say.

"You turn on me one more time, I'm going to start making some more charges. Do you understand me?" an unidentified police officer told Kennedy.

Kennedy told an officer that he was formerly the University of Cincinnati head coach and was in town to play "Louisville and Rick Pitino" on national television.

Kennedy also told police on the video that he had a verbal altercation about how many people could ride in the cab, and that it "makes no sense" to arrest him.

In response to his pleas, an officer said: "You think we've never arrested somebody that's made national media? ... We deal with the Bengals all the time."


Well played by the officer on the Bengals quote. Well played.

Radii 02-04-2009 07:48 PM

Miami is playing really well tonight and beating Wake Forest 45-34 with 13 minutes left in the game.

I'm looking forward to both of ESPN's late games as well. Duke/Clemson at 9pm on ESPN and Missouri/Texas at 9:30 on ESPN2, hopefully a good night of basketball ahead.

Groundhog 02-04-2009 07:51 PM

Patty Mills out for 4 weeks with a broken hand. St. Mary's go and lose to Portland by 20 without him. Yikes.

Radii 02-04-2009 08:30 PM

Miami 79
Wake Forest 52

Damn. Beatdown.

CU Tiger 02-04-2009 09:46 PM

And its on in Littlejohn Coliseum as well as Clemson leads Duke by 20+....

Clemson isn't that good, but aparently and obviously neither is Duke...
Its actually funny lstening to Jay Bilas repeatedly slam Duke, I didnt know he was capable

Radii 02-04-2009 10:01 PM

With their last road win at Va Tech and now this, Clemson has really impressed me. Their next two games are important as well, against two of the middling/dangerous teams in the conference in FSU and Boston College. They've got a favorable schedule as well in that they only play Duke once and UNC once, so their only game against the other top 10 teams is a final game at Wake. I would not be surprised at all if they finish #1 or #2 in the ACC.


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