Because that’s what Fox News has been touting the past few days and as such it appears online and on social media. It’s also an attempt to change the narrative from “Trump did bad thing” to “look the Brown people are coming”. Just red meat to a large swath of folks.

It's eliciting a yawn from most posters

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Immigration is one of the key narratives that got Trump elected.

Show the masses what they should be afraid of and then scare them as much as possible.

Because it's one of Edward's talking points.

Glad to know the radical SJW for the brown illegals have moved on elsewhere.

Specifically to legal immigration, it has & will define us as a country (societal changes, global competitiveness etc.) and has been a policy hot spot for a while. So don't know why it wouldn't be in a Biden Presidency thread.

But I'll go with the crowd and stick it into the Coronavirus non-political thread.

Glad to know it's radical to see them as people.

Everyone on this board sees them as people. There is no question. Radical applies to all the other stuff but keep on twisting words and intent.

Blowing the 'SJW' dogwhistle makes it absolutely clear what your intent was, Trollward.

Zing! Arrgh, you got me.

That was pretty good. Oblivious hypocrisy.

Sounds as if Schumer & McConnell have found a way to work together. But I've read older articles that said they aren't exactly chummy though.

Dems get to set the agenda so that is good.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/18/polit...eal/index.html

Actually, it sounds pretty boiler-plate. Schumer might have push back from some of his more moderate members if he got too greedy. In the end, the Dems still have the upper hand, though by a hair.

The ability to get things to the floor is the real power (or, more like the ability to keep the GOP from keeping things from getting to the floor is the real power).

Parler is back with all traffic routed through Russian servers.

On a related note, did you know the US government can surveil communications that originate in the US if they go through foreign servers?

It's pretty much a no-brainer for Biden to not provide intel, security briefings to Trump after Jan 20.

Maybe the President-Elect thinks immigration is a first-day issue...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...3e2_story.html



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Well I mean he CAN sign multiple things the first day :) Get that signin' hand ready and have a hand-massage therapist on hand to handle cramps!

Two questions I haven’t answered about this potential $600 -> $2000 stimulus.

1. How does the calculation work. Right now, for every $20 of income you make over the threshold, you lose $1 of stimulus. Will this new $1400 be processed as a new stimulus payment subject to that same calculation or as an modification to the original payment?

2. Which payments go up to $2000? Just the parents or some / all dependents too?

To clarify #1.

Single person, no dependents. Original $600 Stimulus starts to phase out at $75k, fully gone at $87k. $600 - ($87k-75k) / 20 = 0

Let’s say a person makes $87k. Is this a change to the original stimulus, so this person would get the $1400, or do we run this money through the calculation again, which means they get $800?

$2000 - ($87k-75k) / 20 = $1400

Or

$1400 - ($87k-75k) / 20 = $800

I don't know the answer for number one, but number two is everyone including kids and adult dependants.

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Immigration doesn't seem to rank "138th" on Biden's list considering it's a day one issue.

https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden...6a62a8acd59730

I look forward to you continuing to vomit your very founded "concerns" about our immigration policy across this thread almost daily.

Like predicted, Manchin's "opposition" to Biden's stimulus plan is/was a fluid issue. It's all part of the negotiations that are happening and will happen. Some in back rooms. Some in the media.

We are all going to be surprised to remember how things can work with people in the WH who work hard and who understand and respect Congress's role in the process.

Important policy news this weekend: @Sen_JoeManchin went on Inside West Virginia Politics and kept the door open to higher stimulus checks up to $2,000 (he prefers they be targeted but didn't draw a red line) and called for spending as much as $4 trillion (!) on infrastructure. pic.twitter.com/yG0aBBcxve

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) January 19, 2021

Now you see what you got me accused of?

Butter,

I think you and me need to hug.

now now boys, its fist pumps only in the time of COVID

Or those weird elbow tap things

SI

"Contested legislation must go through ME now, and that is a fact that Imma make sure all y'all blue and red beeyatches RECOGNIZE!!!"

Taking a racially based far right agenda that aligns you very closely with Trump and trying to normalize it by calling any disagreement "radical SJW" is a pretty solid line there. Well done.

I think most of us have been consistent on immigration since you started making it the #1 or #2 focus on the board at every opportunity years ago. It's a non issue. We have laws and we should enforce them. But we shouldn't really make this a focus at all. I don't think that's radical in the slightest. And you of all people don't get to define radical by yourself, fuck that.

Glad to get into a productive discussion with you but suspect we (the royal we) don't want to go there.

We will agree to disagree on the quote above re: whether that laws are actually being enforced.

really tired of all the articles saying "what biden will do on his first day"

I mean how do these people know? JUst what the heck is going on

I'm glad that seems to have phased out.

I prefer awkward nods with both parties kind of half-waiting to see what the other will do.

I've tried peace signs and awkward blown kisses and likewise felt weird. Maybe we should all just have surprised eye contact then jerk our heads down to the ground and walk quickly past. That could be our national handshake

I can assure you that has been the British national handshake for at least the last 40 years. Get your own thing.

:lol: :D :funkychickendance:

I vote for this ... and then hand sanitizer right after.

I prefer the fists turning into a squid and floating away

and then there was THIS awkward moment



The drive by fistbump without making eyecontact then the creepy patronizing pat on the back seems like a winner for the US

Josh Hawley blocking the speedy nomination of the DHS head just shows there is no end to his duchebaggery.

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McConnell must be loving that. Hawley gumming up the new admin and being willing to own it personally (instead of making it a GOP-wide issue).

The Memorial Service for the Covid 19 victims was lovely. It so surreal to think this is really the first time the President of the United States (granted Biden isn't President yet) has acknowledged the massive death toll of Covid.

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I assume this is good for the Israelis and since it's already a reality, okay with the frenemies in the region. Probably the smart thing to do.

Bibi played his cards well with the Trump admin. It will be great if Biden can maintain the "normalization" momentum.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-ne...c457c2340ef46f

I feel like we've been having the same immigration debate since 2015. I feel like we need to make an active push as a nation to remove racism from our discussions around immigration and after that the rest of you can have all the conversations you want, my focus is elsewhere. Primarily, racism at home.

I'm happy to move to conversations where you can call me a radical and have it possibly actually be true ;)

Something like this:

Truth, human decency, facts, the Constitution, Congress, democracy, science, history, logic, religion, the universal nature of mathematics & reality itself...

Ain’t shit when compared to the indefatigable delusion of Whiteness https://t.co/EBTDxjZ7dk

— michaelharriot (@michaelharriot) January 19, 2021

I think you are a reasonable person. It makes absolute sense to discuss illegal & legal immigration because it's now Biden's to own and he's doing something about it. Re: racism, true or partially true, it's part of the narrative now with immigration and they (inevitably) go hand in hand.

It's like weird we don't want to discuss it here but glad to create a separate thread so others won't have to deal with it. I can somewhat respect that as I didn't want to deal with the never ending Trump bashing on the Coronavirus "non-political" thread and said as much.

If you were offended by the "radical SJW" statement, I apologize. I was reacting to others (not you) in what I believe to be "in kind" sarcasm.

I'm beginning to like this Blinken fella.

Obviously, how Trump approached it did not produce great results but it is reassuring to know that Blinken agrees with high-level stance. Here's hoping he has a better approach.

Antony Blinken, Joe Biden's State Department Pick, Says Donald Trump 'Got It Right' on China

hard line and tariffs have always been more the feeling of the left than that right when it came to China. The right has only been interested in opening the markets, globalization and free market. Any tariffs would have been met with vitriol for the most part. There will be a few things that are held over for sure, but they will have been things that for the most part were never part of the historical R positions.

The whole genocide thing is just one of those things that they had no interest addressing until it didn't hurt them one way or the other.

The Uyghurs and Rohingyas situation is definitely messed up. Knowing Biden, he feels for them. But being realistic, I'm not sure any President can do much about the Uyghurs because, right or wrong, they belong to China.

However, Myanmar re: Rohingyas should be susceptible to the US carrot & big stick approach if Biden really, really wanted to make a difference.

There are some other messed up ethnic groups in Africa. But after the Somalia "Black Hawk Down" incident & pull-out, it's understandable that US doesn't want to get too involved.

As we enter this new day and era, I expect we are going to get a flurry of actions and reactions. There is a laundry list of Presidential executive orders coming, most countering the former President along with others dealing with the virus. An impeachment trail is going to eat the news, but they are going to have to move on confirming appointments along with trying to get some major legislation through (covid bill, John Lewis voters right act, and immigration reforms seem to be the first three).
The fact that Trump is still going to take up so much oxygen because of the trial really pisses me off, but nothing can be done now. The question is how long will it go, and what will be the outcome? How badly is it going to interfere with good governance?

The other big question, what will be the thing that takes out the Biden honeymoon period? Something always does. I could believe that Biden might have had a longer honeymoon than normal just because of what we have been through the last 4 years. Will he?

A few of the flurry of orders:

Count undocumented ppl in Census, begin rolling back Trump enviro actions and raising emission standards, create Covid response coordinator, rescind Trump interior immigration enforcement policy, dump 1776 Commission, do "Whole-of-Government Initiative to Advance Racial Equity"

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 20, 2021

Great feeling knowing the fate of the country on a daily basis won’t hinge on a deranged narcissist moving forward from today.

Hopefully Biden can bring some sense of normalcy to DC and defeat COVID in 2021.

I don't think that there will be a longer honeymoon than normal and barely a longer honeymoon than what Trump got. Just looking at the list that was tweeted, I can already hear the push back for most things on that list. I am talking about push back from the left as well as the right. One thing I don't have a feel for is how much those things would actually offend Republicans and how much of it just would not appeal to Trump supporters. I know that for some, those two groups are one and the same but I think people understand (not necessarily agree with) the distinction I am making. Like how many Republicans are willing to go the bat against stopping the wall build or engaging the WHO to help get control of COVID? I know the number is higher than zero but is it enough to make those issues actual battlegrounds? I don't know.

All right, who invited A-Rod to the event? That might kill off the honeymoon right there.

Those are thick panes of glass (?).

Ok the guy wiping down the podium isn't wearing gloves....dude...

He’s carrying a blue thing which I thought was a candy bar. But prob the wipes

People are already bitching about the $1,400 thing.

Yeah a fist bump. No explosion though

They are wipes I thought at first he was going to be one of the speakers. I bet he wishes he had Snickers right about now though.

Just a friendly reminder that the oath of office states that you will protect the US from threats foreign and DOMESTIC...

Whoa! Thought the Rock was dressed up as J-lo there for a second.

Nice of J-Lo to cover herself up this time around.

Shouldn’t they be ushering VP Harris into a safe room right now :)

Biden is prob wondering what the hell did she say

Communist!;)

That's a HUGE Bible! A family heirloom, I hear. Wow.

Good lord, that bible is huge! They should have used a smaller font.

Just saw that J-Lo is performing because others were wondering the same thing.

Politics aside, Joe Biden becoming US President after the life he has already lived is a hell of a journey.

Somewhere the nuclear football is in limbo. I heard it doesn’t get swapped until 12 noon (I think)

So has Fox News transitioned to talk of the Biden Coup for taking the oath 10 minutes early?

Maybe later today ...

Anyone else think lady gaga was wearing a "real bird she had hahn soloed" on her chest?

No but I liked her outfit.

A long day for Pence. Bet he’s glad the nightmare is over for him.

Amazing Grace is pretty amazing. Have to look up the history

I believe they just let Lady Gaga hold it for a bit.

Uhh guys, I know it is a bit early and it is going to be an adjustment for everyone.

Just a bit of advice. It is probably a good idea to acknowledge the VP of the US before you go to acknowledge with the Second Gentleman instead of the opposite way around.

We get so cynical about people once they reach the top, but Bidens' and Harris' journeys are both very different, but so incredible and inspiring. They didn't just observe and critique, they jumped into the fray and never left, opened themselves up to that lifetime of stress and failure and disappointment and sacrifice.

A breath of fresh air hearing a president not sound like a vile pile of crap.

Anybody else's family chat just filled with AKA related material and people just saying "AMEN!"? No? Just me I guess.

And coherent.

Definitely that! Man, that's a huge one.

Very good inauguration ceremony. I am going to be amused when the far right tries to portray Biden as anti Christian - as the ceremony and speech was steeped in religion.

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He stuttered twice during a high energy speech = senile

And one of the times was during rural so he hates red America and farmers!

SI

Well, lots of evangelicals don't see Catholics as Christian, so....

Took barely an hour but I got my first spam email confirmation for enrollment in Bidencare.

Thank god Trump is gone. Whew! We made it.

I'm seeing a lot of day drinking. Mimosas mostly.

Hell, my priest said 12 years ago when Biden was in town campaigning for VP that he wouldn't serve him Communion, so I don't think as many Catholics claim him either.

That's a really small number of Catholics in proportion. They may object to pro life Catholics but denying communion is a nuclear option reserved for mostly asshole priests.

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Watching him sign the executive orders right now, and my 17 year old decries, "He's not even reading the terms and conditions!"

I just died. He's the funny one in the family.

If you've traveled Catholic circles in the South, that most of them.

Bernie's mittens were the real hero of the day!

I was thinking how Bernie must love the fact that he has to social distance from everyone but then I realized I was confusing him with Larry David.

I think the mice from hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy have arrived to take over the planet...

It's so good to no longer have to say Merry Christmas.

This far after Christmas, this is an interesting statement that needs some background.

The Biden, Bush, Clinton, Obama families at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier was pretty cool. It looked pretty cold & windy, there was a least one soldier, standing at attention, whose peaked cap had blown off.

Merry Christmas!