I have to wonder if Hillary will pick a progressive as VP to try and bring that wing of the party back. Because I don't think anyone is buying any leftward policy shifts she makes in this election cycle.

I'm still not sure what I'm going to do in November.

Clinton/Warren 2016.

As much as I'd rather see Warren stay in the Senate, where she can bash heads into infinity, this is a ticket I'd love to see.

Considering how many moderate Republicans just indicated support for Clinton over Trump today, I don't think she needs to go progressive. Tell the #BernieorBust people to go fly a kite and go after the moderates, who will be looking to flock to anyone but Trump.

Not really. He's more like the Mulkey Brothers coming back for more punishment. At least Ben and Jon will get that reference.

Fixed. I think you have dyslexia

I would expect ambitious Dems will be flocking to get the VP slot. With the high likelihood of a Clinton win, it really could set up someone for their own run. At worst there's a high chance of being a one termer and cashing in on that.

{nods}

MulkeyMania is runnin' wild :)

And me. I got it too :P

An update through Super Mother's Day Tuesday:

Guam was Saturday. Clinton won 4 of 7 delegates.

West Virginia was last night. Sanders won 18 of 29 delegates, getting 51% of the vote to Clinton's 36%. Someone named Paul Farrell won 9% of the vote. Farrell is an attorney from Huntington, WV.

Farrell even beat Clinton in Mingo County, which has about 27,000 people in the southwest corner of the state. Anse Hatfield, the patriarch of the Hatfield family of lore, is Mingo County's most famous former resident.

Pledged Total: Clinton 1,717, Sanders 1,437
Superdelegates: Clinton 503, Sanders 41
Total: Clinton 2,220, Sanders 1,478
Needed to Win: 2,387

Sanders now needs 84.6% of the remaining pledged and superdelegates for the nomination. While that's not going to happen, it's possible he can keep Hillary's lead in pledged delegates under 300, which is a fairly strong statement.

Bernie Bros lost their shit and started vandalizing in NV after the convention didn't go their way.

Bernie issued a statement saying (1) Nevada was unfair, so fuck all y'all, and (2) if y'all all love the big banks so much, why don't y'all marry them?

I've always had the sense that as the nomination got to a close, he'd start playing nice and use the leverage his surprise showing got him to push the party to the left.

Now I think that he might just be kind of angry and unhinged and really would rather blow up the party than push it.

He really could play spoiler if he were so inclined. I just didn't think he was so inclined.

Yeah, I'm quickly growing cold on the Bern

For years, he's had all the benefits of working with a major party (tenure, committee memberships) without having to say he's a Democrat.

He has called for a revolution from the very first moment of the very first debate last year. Why is any of this a surprise to anyone? He's a socialist who wants a revolution. That's not pejorative; that comes from the candidate himself.

His core supporters believe in this. Like Trump, he gained traction in the primary from people who don't necessarily believe the actual words coming out of the candidate's mouth.

I finally got to vote in a primary where, even though the winner has already been determined, there was at least still discussion on who might win. First. Time. Evaaaaaaar.

What about 2008?

No Imran, you're right, getting old sucks. Lol. It's just seems so often that by the time it gets down to us that the result doesn't really matter.

I think this is my problem with Bernie and especially his supporters. They want all the benefits of a political party but none of the responsibilities. I've always thought that the point of a party in a presidential campaign is that the party decides with member input who the nominee is and the party unites around the candidate. However it seems like Bernie supporters support a "Bernie or burn" tactic of threatening to blow up the party and hand the presidency to Trump if they don't get their way. Yet Bernie should win the nomination somehow, they would demand the support of Hillary supporters.

Very close race in Kentucky tonight. 95% of the vote in and Sanders is only ahead by one percent. Of course he needed to win by about 30 points in order to actually catch up with Hillary in the national race.

The most entertaining thing I saw after the New York primary was Bernie supports on Reddit trying to convince themselves that they aligned more with Trump politically than Hillary.

It appears with 99% of the vote, Clinton is ahead by 0.5%.

It appears Sanders will shave 5-10 delegates off of Clinton's 280-delegate lead in pledged convention votes. Somehow, Sanders and his supporters will interpret that as momentum.

Well, technically it's momentum. Like when you're down by 5 touchdowns and then score one either side of the 2 minute warning in the 4th quarter.

I would have done a lot better in my political predictions over the last 8 or so years if I had just taken people at their word. I keep trying to find secret motives and doublespeak in an era when things seem to be much more on the table and in your face.

I understand that mentality. From the opposite side of the spectrum, I would vote for Sanders before HRC.

If only everyone played nice and fair, Bernie would be winning easily. And since that's what the Republicans will do, he makes a terrific general election candidate.

The real question is if the Berniebots are going to force Sanders to call it quits before he wants to. Bernie has to know that his only chance of winning the nomination is a stunning Clinton scandal of some sort. I take him at his word that he wants to keep the campaign going and take his delegates to the convention to build a platform that includes his issues.

But with the turmoil his most ardent supporters are creating, the only positive end to this is Bernie delivering a keynote on Tuesday night of the convention giving a rousing defense of Hillary and a stinging rebuke of Trump. It's got to stop at some point.

I get the feeling that if Bernie should ever endorse Clinton then the Berniebots would say he's a sellout and will look for their next savior.

Feels more like the Left's Ron Paul. Probably just setting himself up for a nice book deal and speaking gigs post-election.

I'm only reiterating what his supporters are saying. The only reason why he's still in this race is to go to the convention with his delegates to make a speech about where the direction of the Democratic party should go and all that socialism jazz. Bernie and his supporters are settling on ideology now.

Now if he ends up telling his supporters to support Hillary at the convention I'm going to disable my Facebook newsfeed because it's going to be really bad. I imagine they'll be in grief for a good month or two, then eventually they'll swallow their pride and vote for her in November.

I think those that planned on voting all along will eventually come around to voting for Hillary. I think most of those that took an interest in this election because of Bernie stay home.

Bernie is the free college, anti-wall street, everyone is equal, Socialist-little man.

Trump is currently being sued for Trump College being a scam, is as wall street as it gets, wants to build walls and isolate, and thinks $1 million is a small loan.

I don't see any way a Bernie supporter could vote Trump other than to protest their guy losing.

Many people (well 15% perhaps) see both Bernie and Trump as populist anti-trade candidates that aren't beholden to the real enemy which are lobbyists and will negotiate better deals for the working man.

I agree. Though this whole Nevada "1968 Convention flashback?" nonsense coming from the mainstream media feels very Ron Paul like. Show the same clip over and over and act like there were Malatov cocktails being thrown and people being beaten to a pulp. A handful of people were pissed off because they are starting to understand the process isn't really fair.

The Nevada thing was about Bernie trying to change the results of the primary. He was using non-democratic rules to change the democratic process. He and his supporters lost the right to bitch about fairness.

I just meant the narrative that the Nevada caucus was a blown powder keg when it was really just a small number of sanders supporters being assholes. Same as people who want Trump to apologize because Klan members say they are voting for him.

I just don't see what the complaints are over. More people have voted for Clinton and it's not even close. There is no scenario where Sanders is getting robbed.

Because BernieBabies are socialists and have no concept of how competition works and demand equal votes for both candidates.

When you're a vocal minority you have to scream really loud to make your group seem bigger.

A lot of them think that the Dems literally rigged the primaries to give them to Clinton. There's a different conspiracy theory out there for almost every state primary that Sanders lost. Except for the ones he lost by a lot, the narrative for that portion of Sanders supporters there is that black people are "low information" voters who are too dumb to vote in their self-interest. I could see how someone who believes that could be drawn to Trump.

As an aside, it's refresh to be able to, for once, agree with both of you on something.

Oh God yes... Facebook is going to be insane if Sanders endorses Clinton.

This reaction comes from Millennials and it's no big surprise. It's probably the biggest resultant of how that generation has matured. No other generation outside of the baby boomers has become as quite self centered and demands instant gratification as this one has. It's probably why we are seeing the fights right now. Then there's the rest of us X'ers stuck in the middle, a much smaller minority, wondering who we pissed off to end up here?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...icle-1.2644307

Yeah, I know. But it's a pretty good argument on what I don't like about the whole DNC setup. I don't know how Obama managed to beat it, but the party does strike me as a machine for the Clintons.

(I really do wonder what Obama's legacy and influence within the Democratic Party will be, or if he will be completely overshadowed by Bill and Hillary's folks.)

Obama won because he raised more money, from PACs as well as donations. Shaun King has been a massive Bernie Sanders supporter. I'd take anything he said about the Democratic Party with a massive grain of salt.

I know where the people in the Sandersforpresident subreddit get the info from now.

Bernie Sanders is an interesting presidential candidate. He does bring up important issues and has changed the talking points of this election on the democratic side. I think he's a candidate the democratic party really needed (not necessarily to win, but to run).

It's going to be interesting to see if this momentum carries over into state and local elections and continues to build until the next general. I doubt it, there's talk every election cycle about breaking off and creating a new republican or new democratic party and it eventually dies down, but at the very least I believe this (along with Trump) may open the door for more non-traditional candidates to get into the conversation.

With that said, his supporters turned me off months ago (Sanders = PS4 Sanders Supporters = MBBF) and Bernie's speech last week turned me off as well. He has a very angry base that is beginning to teeter on the verge of becoming a bit dangerous and he's done nothing to try to quiet or control them. On the contrary, the speech last week served no purpose other than to stir them up even more.

How handles himself and his base after June 7th when even his most hardcore supporters realize he's lost this election will be interesting.

So they're seeing them both as advocates for their position(s)?

Gosh, that'd almost make them ... lobbyists.

Half Pint just dropped out of our local congressional race, apparently due to pain from injuries suffered in an accident four years ago. The race had been ugly for a while now, but I suppose they all are these days.

Interesting to note that, because of her reason for withdrawing, it's believed that the Ds can replace her on the November ballot. Candidate chosen by the county chapters of the party in the district.

That's the way the law was written. I think they did some polling and found that people were reacting badly to her donor lists and the Roman Polanski thing and she's cooperating by giving them this excuse. Otherwise, the Republican would run unopposed. I don't think it's a coincidence that her announcement came on the same day her potential primary opponent was disqualified for signature shenanigans.

Who are we talking about?

Melissa Gilbert

Pa's gonna be upset.

I love this.

Yeah, Shaun King is ... well, you know.

Sanders is doing the exact same thing Obama did. He raised a ton of money from small donors and tried to win every caucus out there. The problem is that there is no one with any political savvy or expertise running his campaign and building an organization. Obama had brilliant political strategists at the top of their game.

Clinton and her organizers got outfoxed again at caucuses, but not as badly as in 2008. They learned their lesson about how to mitigate the damage and make the caucuses a draw. It was Obama in 2008 who game the system to pick up delegates here and there that made the difference.

Obama beat Clinton by 102 pledged delegates. That's less than two deletes per state/territory that if Clinton had flipped she'd have been the nominee.

Bernie's down 272 and it isn't getting closer.

Bernie Sanders on Twitter: "Game on. I look forward to debating Donald Trump in California before the June 7 primary."

um okay

So a debate where both sides slam an absent Hillary for two hours.

Thanks, Bernie.

Hopefully Bernie spends more time slamming Trump.

HRC backed out of a planned debate with Sanders. (Evidently she doesn't understand that only Trump can get away with that. ;)) I think that could have been a pretty big blunder. You've got the nomination all sewn up now, Hillary. Get on stage, play kissy-face with Bernie, talk about what a great race it has been and how he has shaped you, blah blah blah, and as such, make a strong move to win over his supporters. And oh, by the way, it's two Democrats on stage getting to blast Trump when he can't respond. Why turn that down???

EDIT: Not to mention that you've opened the door for Trump to get on stage with all the Bernie anti-establishment folks watching and rant about how rotten the system is and how unfairly it has treated Bernie.

Clinton and Obama should do a joint interview on Colbert or Fallon the same day.

Maybe Clinton should debate John Kasich or Ted Cruz. I think there's some sports leagues that use a playoff format like that - the winner of one division faces the wild card from the other division. And then maybe we can have a "first four" style debate with Jim Webb v. George Pataki

LOL at Jim Gilmore not even being able to make molson's parody First Four debate.

It's a good move for Trump since he has the nomination. Not sure why Bernie wants to do this.

I expect riots in the audience from both sides.

There will be cameras there. He gets to rant and rave in front of them.

I hope he secretly sends Larry David instead. I bet no one would notice.

So will Sanders drop out on Tuesday after Clinton clinches the nomination, or will he still try to cause problems at the convention?

And how much will it suck for Clinton if she loses California? She's going to look really week if she only wins New Jersey.

If she loses California, it's likely to be a 51-49 thing. Sanders is not going to romp.

Media calls the nomination for Clinton, using a combo of pledged and superdelegates (which has been their tradition).

Of course, by calling it the literal day before the California primary, they give the Bernie folks ammunition--"The Media illegally called the race and suppressed Bernie's turnout before the California primary"--to keep their delusions and conspiracy theories going and going and going. (Note, I am not talking about folks that voted for Bernie. I am talking about the ones that refuse to admit that he is losing and keep coming up with more and more outlandish theories to explain the results that show otherwise).

It is almost as if the Media has an interest in keeping the chaos going until the convention.

I know that this ship sailed a long time ago, but I still miss a world where the media felt some obligation to anything other than collecting eyeballs.

Remember when Sanders said that super-delegates should vote for whoever won their state primary?

Sanders: I'm Still In The Race | The Daily Caller

Now he's going to spend the next few months trying to override the will of the voters and campaign super-delegates to change allegiances.

Pretty sure if there wasn't so much widespread election fraud Bernie would have taken every single delegate in this election on both the democratic and republican sides.

I care sooo much about the issues Bernie stands for that I hope Donald Trump is elected President.

Haven't heard much from Bernie. Guess he's hit the acceptance phase.

Within the past hour: Bernie Sanders Says He Will Vote for Hillary Clinton - NBC News

I'm still holding out hope that what this means is that on the 1st or 2nd day of the convention they give him a primetime speaking slot where he a) fires up his supporters again and then b) makes a strong case to his supporters to vote for Clinton while endorsing her himself.

He'll repair a lot of bridges if he does that.

I think this is what happens and kinda already signalling with his saying he will vote for Hillary. Let's face it, he got more support than most anybody thought he would including himself. He probably deserves that speaking slot at the convention given how many voted for him.

I'm sure the heads of the DNC had a good long talk with him about what he needed to tell his supporters. I know most of us saw this coming and I hope his diehard supporters realizes this was the inevitable outcome. All of those anti-establishment talking points can go out the window now.

DNC is lucky. Meanwhile, I have to tie my vote to crack-head Trump...or not.