Okay, just read through everything from this morning.

I'm really sorry I didn't get a chance to pay more attention to deadline last night - I was in a meeting right up until 9:00 and then my phone started to die so I had to run to my room and charge it up while catching up in the thread without seeing what happened all day yesterday. I revealed without really knowing what the tally was; all I knew was that I was probably a vote away from being out..so I would have revealed regardless.

As for tonight's scan - I am going to try letting everyone know about before I hit the sack here.

Interesting that Chief has came on here, left, then came back only to leave again without saying hi or anything.

Sorry I wasn't able to make it back to switch from Tyrith, but damn that ended up being a good result. Dinner party went long because dinner prep went long.. and well it's almost night deadline time so we'll see what happens.

First off, that's pretty metagamey. Might wanna ease up on that.

Second, what's there to say at this point? Y'all seem set in your ways. You and Danny didn't even figure out I had voted for two hours, putting me down as a no vote, even though I was right on your list above with a vote.

I realized it after I posted it within a few minutes, but Danny kept putting up votes before I could get to them. As for my thing it is meta-gamey, but wanted to ensure we knew who all came on after my reveal, including Lathum. That way if I'm NKed we know who it could have been.

I kind of wish I didn't scan cr tonight as it seems some were going after him regardless of my scan. I'll be happy though if he comes back super villain.

I don't know if you go there if he comes back negative for being a supervillan though, so it is an important scan.

I am going to bed. I'll post it first thing in the morning when Ryan wakes up around 5.. Ryan being my baby.

That can't be good... :)

Kinda goes without saying, but if Chief comes back as a supervillian, our seers/forensics/BG may not want to be oh him if possible, but certainly Mau.

Hopefully I am still alive

As are Rachel and Batman.

Danny is dead. He was Maggie Sawyer, Forensic Scientist.

The Jackal is dead. He was David Cornwell, Forensic Scientist.

Both Forensic Scientists are dead. There will be no more roles revealed upon death, whether a lynch or a night kill.

Well that blows big.

Vote Chief Rum

Wow! Both of them at one night. We really have been unlucky on who the supervillians have gone after.

I am going to stop this right now. You guys need to stop tunnel visioning yourselves.

I am your other bodyguard.

Yes, I'm guessing the supervillians are going after strong players. What I'm intrigued about now is if there are two why the second didn't go after Mauboy. I wonder if they thought there was no danger in having Chief getting scanned.

Why do you come out with that right now? Mau stated he ran a scan on you for a supervillian, why not wait until it comes back negative.

Maybe they thought he would be covered tonight and wanted to try to get a third villian? it worked out well as we wont know now how many disturbed folks are left. we know there are 2 right now. and we wont know when we get one of the villians either. hopefully that will be relatively clear.

Because I already know what you guys will do. You'll say I must be deranged then, so better for me to be dead. You guys were locked in. And I can't protect the remaining good guys anyway. There's only one of me. I'll protect one tomorrow night, they'll kill the other. Or they'll just kill me and one of the roles will survive. Doesn't matter, we're at the same point either way.

At least this way you guys who are locked in can move in and find another candidate.

move on, that is

*starts unpacking suitcase.* Damn.

I can't think of what was worst. Sitting in class for over three hours, reading this result, or the UCLA game. I would say the UCLA is the worst, no offense Gotham.

Ahh...Chief! Commo, why did you vote so early? We had nothing to lose by doing that and waiting for Mau's scan. Chief should not have revealed so early either, but now the wolves know who Dawes, Batman, and the last BG are and no matter what, we won't ever know if we hit a disturb citizen or a super villain

Blah. Maybe we can figure out some sort of vote pattern at this point, at least, because we know of so many good guys...because they're dead.

Get your reveal out there quickly - good move and quick thinking. You realise it's not going to alleviate suspicion of you though, right? There's now no way we're going to be able to confirm this (we've had pretty absymal luck with the roles this game). I'm leaning to not believing you, Chief, but I'm interested to see if anyone counter-reveals this (and I think they have to) - and who it is. Hope to god it's someone with some degree of trust because we're never going to know for sure.

Two-Face and friend taking out Jackal and Danny suggests that they were looking at Crimson-voters as suspicious. Right enough I'm really regretting moving my vote off of Chief. (unless he is the bodyguard) Sorry Commo and, well, everyone really. It's open season for the deranged citizens now.

Or they presumed the bodygaurd would be on Mau tonight seems like the most likely result.

I agree about the strong player theory though.

Hoops - ? - Danny/Jackal

That ? could be Chief, could be Lathum, could be me if you want to be really generous to me. Get the feeling I'm going to be getting a lot of heat today. Wish mau could have published his result last night.

Anyway, what I'm interested in is why McKerney emerged as the "save Commo" plan and not Chief. Sure it turned out to be a good result for us but the wolves probably had no idea about that. Going to see if I have time to look at that and to look at McKerney's posts.

Not buying it Chief. Seems more like you realise you're going to come up bad and you're getting the reveal in before that happens, knowing it'll have less impact later. If there is a bodygaurd they, obviously, need to hold off until mau reveals his scan.

I don't think there's much chance that Chief is a deranged citizen at this stage, although I could be wrong. He's either the bodyguard or a supervillain as far as I'm concerned.

Fucking hell we might as well have all had a mass reveal at the start the way this game has gone. I was going to suggest it but didn't think it was in the spirit of the game (and no-one would have bought it of course).

It actually crossed my mind as well.

I think this is going to be an interesting day. If all three are telling the truth, you have one body guard to protect three "known" people. Luckily there still is the one unrevealed role of Chief Psychiatrist, which should stay hidden. Assuming Chief is who he says he is, he needs to gamble on who to protect tonight. As much as it sucks, out of the three, Batman is the least valuable while Mau is the strongest

I think Commo is probably pretty safe at the moment. The main threat he offers the baddies now (barring a Batman counter-reveal) is that he's cleared and is trying to analyse things, making him something of a rarity.

Got to say that it sucks that the usually vocal people got roles while it looks like the UTRs are either vanila or baddies.

Chief is not the killer...

Well damn.

Thank you.

because the BG cant protect the same person twice in a row, and with one already dead, Mau will be open tonight...assuming that is, that he was guarded last night. Im not surprised at all...Freeze didnt want to risk a block by making the obvious attack, so he went looking for another nut job to convert or just killed someone he wanted out.

Spoiler - don't get your hopes up.

Pity you revealed Chief - honestly think it was premature with a scan on you. On the other hand you're not going to be the only one going to be revealing prematurely today.

We have next to no useful information to work with so I think I'm going to have to reveal as well. I think the chances of me surviving a lynch tonight and the night's kills are pretty low, so I'd better get the little information I have out there. Our run of bad luck with roles continues as I'm the Pyschiatrist.

My scans.
N0 - Zinto
N1 - Hoops
N2 - J23
N3 - Lathum

All clear.

I was getting the odd read on Hoops early on so I bunged an early scan in on him (way before Danny said anything about him, obviously). I forgot that your best bet is try to get a decent circle of trust going into the latter stages of the game, the odd mechanics didn't help there either as I knew that if Hoops was going to be converted on night one then that was my only chance to scan him.

Day two was a reaction to day one. I know that J23 can be a good analytical villager when he's on his game and I figured (unlike Hoops) he would be around till late in the game

Day three - didn't think there was any point in scanning Chief or Commo, figured they would be dead or converted by this stage. Lathum was next on my list.

If mau is on the level then Zinto is defintely a villager. J23 can only be Two-Face and Lathum is either a villager or a Supervillain.

Honestly I'm about ready to throw this game - I think our best chance was Chief being a baddie. I haven't seen any help or support at all coming from the vanilla villagers apart from Crimson. Frankly the village that's left deserves to lose.

I get that it looks suspicious that I'm revealing without heat or that I should gut it out another night at least but let's face it, with no reveal on death any baddy on the block is going to be able to claim my role as a get out of jail free card. I thought Chief was a supervillain so I was prepared to wait out one more day while we lynched him and the baddies only had one kill but that's not how its shaken out.

3. PackerFanatic
4. Sndvls
5. Zinto - Cleared by mau and myself, with no chance of interlap
7. Lathum - either villager or converted on night two
8. NTNdeacon
10. Mauboy1 - Claims Rachel, undisputed for more than a day
11. MrBug708
13. Dzilla77
14. J23 - either villager or Two-Face
15. Saldana
16. Tyrith - not Two-Face
17. Chief Rum - claims Bodyguard
19. Daddy Torgo
20. Narcizo - claims Arkham
21. Commo_soldier - Claims Batman

I think that covers it. My understanding of mau's claimed scans are
N0 Lathum
N1 Zinto
N2 Tyrith
N3 Chief

Again mine are
N0 Zinto
N1 Hoops
N2 J23
N3 Lathum

Mass reveal on day one would have so made this game easier.

Despite it being a very poor percentage play I'm still liking Lathum as the night two conversion but I don't think it's something we can pursue today. I don't really understand why Chief is still alive. I think we have to work under the assumption that he said something that tipped off the bad guys that he was a villager.

Narc, I think that is a good reveal from you, and will keep my vote off you, unfortunately, this is a very tough ruleset, and even the combination of both sets of scan results doesn't actually clear anyone of anything.

my vote will likely go straight to one of the silent guys today

Cutting out all the filler we get a grand amount of posts. Congrats to Mckerney on playing his cards close to his chest.

Day One



Day Two




Day Three

So we do have Mckerney pulling the vote and unvote on Daddy Torgo. I think we probably might want to assume that DT isn't Two-Face otherwise you'd have to think Mckerney would have been converted by now. Unless DT wasn't sure he was deranged and didn't want to risk trying to kill him and announcing the fact after the Hoops kill. Actually that makes sense so I don't think you can assume DT isn't Two-Face.

Mckerney votes mau so I think we can definitely clear mau from being Two-Face. :) At the moment I'm guessing UTR for Two-Face but I just can't work out who the day two conversion is. Can't see past Lathum in that spot. Perhaps Saldana or SnDvls. I'm going to have to look.

The first paragraph was pretty confusing. To paraphrase "DT might be Two-Face or he might not be. McKerney voting/unvoting him doesn't mean much either way.

Morning Fuckers!

Day 1

CrimsonFox votes ChiefRum (1) 193
Zinto votes Hoops (1) 196
Dzilla votes Zinto (1) 217
PackerFanatic votes Mauboy (1) 230
AbeSargent votes CrimsonFox (1) 248
J23 votes Narcizo (1) 260
Narcizo votes AbeSargent (1) 269
Hoops votes Zinto (2) 274
Danny votes Narcizo (2) 291
Lathum votes Zinto (3) 304
Danny unvotes Narcizo (1) 305
Danny votes Hoops (2) 312

NTN votes Autumn (1) 316
Danny unvotes Hoops (1) 319
NTN unvotes Autumn (0) 331
NTN votes Mauboy (2) 335
Saldana votes Narcizo (2) 349
McKerney votes DaddyTorgo (1) 350
Jackal votes CrimsonFox (2) 352
CrimsonFox unvotes ChiefRum (0) 359
CrimsonFox votes Hoops (2) 359
Jackal unvotes CrimsonFox (1) 389
Jackal votes AbeSargent (2) 389
Mauboy votes Hoops (3) 390
Tyrith votes AbeSargent (3) 402
McKerney unvotes DaddyTorgo (0) 403
McKerney votes CrimsonFox (2) 403
MrBug votes CrimsonFox (3) 412

MrBug unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 423
Tyrith unvotes AbeSargent (2) 429
Tyrith votes CrimsonFox (3) 429
Tyrith unvotes CrimsonFox (2) 430
Tyrith votes Hoops (4) 430
ChiefRum votes Zinto (4) 440
DaddyTorgo votes Zinto (5) 446
CommoSoldier votes Zinto (6) 450
CrimsonFox unvotes Hoops (3) 453
CrimsonFox votes AbeSargent (3) 453
Tyrith unvotes Hoops (2) 458
Tyrith votes AbeSargent (4) 458
Danny votes Mauboy (3) 459
Hoops unvotes Zinto (5) 465
Hoops votes AbeSargent (5) 465
Danny unvotes Mauboy (2) 468
Danny votes CommoSoldier (1) 468

Danny unvotes CommoSoldier (0) 475
Danny votes Hoops (3) 475
Saldana unvotes Narcizo (1) 477
Saldana votes AbeSargent (6) 477
MrBug votes AbeSargent (7) 478
Danny unvotes Hoops (2) 481
Danny votes Zinto (6) 481
Hoops unvotes AbeSargent (6) 496
Hoops votes CrimsonFox (3) 496
Saldana unvotes AbeSargent (5) 498
Saldana votes CrimsonFox (4) 498
Danny unvotes Zinto (5) 499
Danny votes CrimsonFox (5) 499

2 - Mauboy - PackerFanatic, NTN
5 - CrimsonFox - AbeSargent, McKerney, Hoops, Saldana, Danny
1 - Narcizo - J23
5 - AbeSargent - Narcizo, Jackal, CrimsonFox, Tyrith, MrBug
5 - Zinto - Dzilla, Lathum, ChiefRum, DaddyTorgo, CommoSoldier
2 - Hoops - Zinto, Mauboy

No Vote: Sndvl

Well on the plus side 2 of the 6 people voted for were presumably only vanilla. Impressive work right there. Oh and I've missed blueing Danny.

And in the three-way tie the only roled villager in the mix gets taken out. :thumbsup:

Day 2

CrimsonFox votes CrimsonFox (1) 591
CommoSoldier votes CrimsonFox (2) 615
NTN votes CrimsonFox (3) 644
Lathum votes CrimsonFox (4) 661
Danny votes CommoSoldier (1) 664
Narcizo votes CommoSoldier (2) 669
SnDvls votes Zinto (1) 674
McKerney votes CommoSoldier (3) 689

J23 votes Mauboy (1) 713
Dzilla votes Mauboy (2) 721
CheifRum votes CrimsonFox (5) 723
NTN unvotes CrimsonFox (4) 724
NTN votes Mauboy (3) 724
Zinto votes Mauboy (4) 730
MrBug votes CrimsonFox (5) 732
Tyrith votes Mauboy (5) 734
Jackal votes Mauboy (6) 739
Zinto unvotes Mauboy (5) 741
Zinto votes CommoSoldier (4) 741
Saldana votes CrimsonFox (6) 747

McKerney unvotes CommoSoldier (3) 753
McKerney votes Mauboy (6) 753
Zinto unvotes CommoSoldier (2) 771
Zinto votes Mauboy (7) 772
Danny unvotes CommoSoldier (1) 773
Danny votes CrimsonFox (7) 773
Mauboy votes CrimsonFox (8) 776
CrimsonFox unvotes CrimsonFox (7) 778
CrimsonFox votes Mauboy (8)
Jackal unvotes Mauboy (7) 779
Jackal votes CrimsonFox (8) 779
CrimsonFox unvotes Mauboy (6) 799
CrimsonFox votes CrimsonFox (9) 799

9 - CrimsonFox - CommoSoldier, Lathum, ChiefRum, MrBug, Saldana, Danny, Mauboy, Jackal, CrimsonFox
1 - CommoSoldier - Narcizo
1 - Zinto - SnDvls
6 - Mauboy - J23, Dzilla, NTN, Tyrith, McKerney, Zinto

No Vote: PackerFanatic, DaddyTorgo

A clear improvement as we only have two roled villagers on the block with two vanillas keeping them company.

Day 3

Jackal votes Tyrith (1) 830
Zinto votes CommoSoldier (1) 860
Narcizo votes Chief Rum (1) 863
Dzilla votes CommoSoldier (2) 870
Danny votes Chief Rum (2) 881
PackerFanatic votes CommoSoldier (3) 882
McKerney votes CommoSoldier (4) 888
Tyrith votes MrBug (1) 897

CommoSoldier votes Danny (1) 904
Narcizo unvotes Chief Rum (1) 940
Narcizo votes CommoSoldier (5) 940
Lathum votes Narcizo (1) 943
SnDvls votes PackerFanatic (1) 948
Danny unvotes Chief Rum (0) 953
Chief Rum votes SnDvls (1) 957
NTN votes Tyrith (2) 959
NTN unvotes Tyrith (1) 965
MrBug votes Lathum (1) 966
SnDvls unvotes PackerFanatic (9) 971
SnDvls votes Chief Rum (1) 971
Saldana vote Narcizo (2) 985
NTN votes CommoSoldier (6) 991

CommoSoldier unvotes Danny (0) 996
Danny votes Dzilla (1) 1004
Dzilla unvotes CommoSoldier (5) 1007
CommoSoldier votes Dzilla (2) 1008
CommoSoldier unvotes Dzilla (1) 1009
Danny unvotes Dzilla (0) 1012
DaddyTorgo votes Tyrith (2) 1014
Danny votes McKerney (1) 1023
CommoSoldier votes McKerney (2) 1028
Dzilla votes McKerney (3) 1032
Saldana unvotes Narcizo (1) 1034
Saldana votes McKerney (4) 1034
MrBug unvotes Lathum (0) 1037
MrBug votes McKerney (5) 1037
SnDvls unvotes Chief Rum (0) 1045
SnDvls votes McKerney (6) 1045
NTN unvotes CommoSoldier (4) 1051
NTN votes Narcizo (2) 1051

2 - Tyrith - Jackal, DaddyTorgo
4 - CommoSoldier - Zinto, PackerFanatic, McKerney, Narcizo
1 - MrBug - Tyrith
2 - Narcizo – Lathum, NTN
1 - Sndvls - Chief Rum
6 – McKerney – Danny, CommoSoldier, Dzilla, Saldana, MrBug, SnDvls

We can't presume that DZ, Sally, Bug or Sunny aren't baddies just because they voted McKerney - looks like SnDvls was pressured into it, at least. Still it's a point in their favour.

Oh and fair warning. Anyone who wants to discuss what strategy we think the wolves can be expected to use tonight is going to get a nightfall vote from me.

Currently liking DT and NTN as baddies. Keep coming back to Lathum as the conversion on day two. As far as I'm concerned there has to have been a pretty clear signal before night two or I don't understand where the conversion landed.

Anyway, got to go for the now.

This is just a vote on one of the folks we know nothing about.

Vote Dzilla

just to keep this on the current page

You have my permission to lynch me tonight.

I'm actually hoping you are lying about who you scanned. You don't need to say either way (and I doubt you will), but it makes it further clouds things, which is about the best we can hope for

Sorry for being so absent this game. I should have a good bit of time today/tonight to give some thoughts. Given the people that have been lynched and their order, I'm leaning towards either Saldana or DaddyTorgo as two face right now. I'll try to do some post diving to see if I can find anything that might back up my feeling.

Well..off to go sub, I'll be able to monitor for the next 7 hours

Huh?

So at this point all reveals are worthless and it is like last game where we have to take them with some disbelief since they will never be confirmed or denied.

He will have clarity and see who goes where

I disagree. We know the roles are in the game, or at least I'm pretty sure they're all in the game, and we know the only ones who can be converted are the deranged citizens, who are already bad guys basically. Unless there are counter-reveals, we should take them at face value I think. The scans on the other hand are a bit less straight forward.

I agree with this. We know exactly which roles are in the game and how many of that type are in the game. The one thing we will not know now are the roled villagers, but I tend to believe they are all genuine which really narrows things a bit. So we go from 15 unknowns to 10 with 4 of them being bad, 2 of which are supervillians. We are behind now, but if we can take out one of the big ones tonight I think there is a good shot we still win this. Especially if it is freeze we take out since Two-face can't kill mau. Granted we will not know who we take out, but we will hopefully know from the NKs.

Unvote ChiefRum

If I'd have known you'd reveal so soon I would have waited for Mau's scan. Contrary to your belief, I was only voting you because I thought you may be two face and if he came back and cleared you I would have taken it off.

Dola, as for voters moving to McKerney I'd say it is probably 50/50 in that case. Danny and I were calling people out who were on asking if they were going to switch, so they had a choice, but not much of one. Also, based on actions yesterday I think it is probable that DZ is probably a vanilla.

Double dola, should be getting back from work earlier today to do more analysis. One possibilty for Two Face might be PackerFanatic. I think he came on Day Two and said something, but never left a vote. Not sure what voting was like at the time, but maybe he didn't want to bring any suspicions upon himself.

Given that there was a NK night one, I'm less inclined to think that PF is 2face given the lack of a day1 vote. It's possible, but I don't think it's as high of a percentage chance as most others, so I won't be going there today I don't think.

I am inclined to vote PF today for not moving off of Commo. He may or may not have been around, but I think it warrants exploration at this point.

Vote PackerFan

Thinking PF was Two Face with his lack of activity was essentially why I vote for SnDvls yesterday. I would be shocked if PF was Two Face.

Chief, any chance you were protecting someone we haven't cleared on night two? It would help matters if you had.

For example, I would be happy if you protected Lathum (although I'm sure he wouldn't be).

I was protecting you, actually.

I protected Danny on N1. I almost protected hoops, but since hoops got a little heat on Day One and was a natural BG protect option (and keep in mind, I didn't know hoops himself was a BG, I thought there was another guy out also thinking hoops as a protect target), I decided to go with another strong player instead.

As I said, I protected you on Night Two. Another strong player who might be targeted.

I will of course keep my chosen ward from last night a secret.

I prefer to be killed. My participation has been limited anyway and with no role reveals I'll be pretty disengaged.

I would agree that, looking back on the vote history, PF's vote smells the worst to me. I'm heavily inclined to vote for him today - and I'm curious to know why CR thinks it's unlikely PF is Two Face.

Narc's Lathum as night 2 conversion thought makes some sense to me, although I think Lathum may have checked out on this game at this point.

I already revealed....I'm just a vanilla villager and have always been

My argument on PF is purely on activity. I don't think PF would use "real life" as a protection as Two Face.

Two Face killed on Night One, and converted Mr. Freeze on Night Two. We know Two face has been around and active.

PF missed votes and claimed to have forgotten the game started. He has been very quiet even given that. I just don't get the sense that someone that disconnected and who claimed to forget the game would be Two Face.

Now, I could see him being a Disturbed Citizen. That takes a lot less effort, especially with mau already revealed.

Seems reasonable to me.

From that perspective, then, Two-Face is one of six people:

Myself
DT
Dzilla
NTN
saldana
MrBug

Probability dictates that I'm going to wind up voting for one of the non-me people on this list, although I think there's a good chance PF is bad and Lathum was converted. Do you guys have an opinion on how DT's explanation for his D2 missed vote might tie into this?

Night deadline will be the ordinary time tonight. The next day deadline will be Monday, unless people feel a Sunday deadline would work for them.

VOTE NTN

he's on the list made by everyone is all

Two-Face it the one role you definitely are not - mau scanned you night two.

if you do a weekend vote/action I won't be on at all....not that I matter, but just giving you a heads up

J23, on the other hand, could be Two-Face.

I could be, but I'm not. :)

Ah, yeah, I was wondering how you got to 10 guys - J23 didn't have a vote on day 3.

I'm not following the votes of any of the other unknowns that have voted before me - I'm content to let the people we know are good decide who lives and who dies today. My choice is just a gut call without particular substance behind it.

VOTE SALDANA

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Next Playing: Madonna, Frozen

I think it's vital that we try to take a supervillain off the table to limit the kills. Admittedly a deranged citizen wouldn't be a disaster but, really, what do we have to go on there? I've read through and not seen anything I can see as a signal on day or night two. If anyone has another explanation as to where the day two kill went then they're welcome to come out with it.

His votes have been what I'd expect from a wolf. Admittedly they're what I'd expect from him as a villager as well but there you go. The clincher for me is I don't know where the kill went on day two. I presumed Chief or Commo but with mau's scan and Commo's uncontested reveal I can't find it. I think it has to have been put on Lathum.

Vote Lathum

Presuming Lathum is Freeze you can expect Two-Face to counter this and then the other deranged citizens to fall in line, so I'm not overly hopeful that the village can swing this vote. The benefit, if Lathum is Freeze, is that mau lives another day. I wish I could be around to discuss this with Chief, Commo, Zinto and mau but that's not to be.

Aside from cr, zinto, and myself has anybody else revealed? I'm not seeing it but I just want to make sure as I am on my phone. I'm gonna try getting 100% caught up again.

Of the unrevealed I've no idea who might be Two-Face or the deranged citizens. Anyone wanting to make a suggestion of a reveal for me is welcome within the next 30 minutes or so. Mau shouldn't forget to get a scan in.

Yes I forgot commo

Dude! :eek:

I'm Arkham - Zinto is cleared by the combination of you and me.

Chief and Commo is there something obvious I'm missing with the night two kill?

Oh nos! Nark outs himself. :cool:

Anyone wanting to make a suggestion of a scan for me is welcome within the next 30 minutes or so.

I think the trusteds have to put out a united vote to prevent wolfie interference.

Given the fact that Saldana was pushing the wolf hall of fame theory earlier I would have thought he would be voting Lathum at this stage.

Just want to say that Lathum behaved pretty much the same way last time he was a wolf (whenever that was - Princess Bride I think). I realise that it's his schedule but I think he's marginally more engaged as a villager.