Anyone else noticing that initial backroom staffs are majorly sucking? I'm thinking the problem is only related to fictional setups, though I could be wrong (never tried using real players yet). I just imagine that real staffs would have more realistic attributes and the jobs would be allocated better.

For example I decided to take over L2 squad Peterborough and my ass man has 1s in both judging potential and current ability. What the hell am I suppose to do with this wanker? He's signed through 2012 with 1,000 pounds owed to him per week. He wants 220k pounds to mutually terminate. That's more than a quarter of this teams' entire worth. I pretty much have to scrap this game and hope for better luck next time. Another LLM game I started I was given four goalkeeping coaches. :rolleyes:

I gotta tell you. Ive played the crap out of this game and it desperately needs another patch. I just had a guy take a PK, it hit off the post and bounced back to a foot in front of him and he stood there staring at it while the keeper ran all the way out to kick it away. Couple this with the "near post" corner bug, the passive offsides not working, and there is just some really frustrating things that make the game more frustrating than fun...unfortunately Im addicted.

Maybe he kicked it so hard he slipped and fell afterwards.

thats what I was thinking BUT he's a 33 yr. old vet. It's hard to imagine although I guess feasible....I dont think I should see it happen. Add that to the other things and this game needs a patch. IMO

I frickin' love YouTube, it has everything. With no MLS right now, and my addiction to FM while playing as the Albion Rovers led me to looking at Scottish football stuff online today. I just typed in Albion Rovers on YouTube and for the first time ever I am getting a look at the real deal. And now I know why I have such a hard time getting certain things done in the game....

I made their dream, said at the end of this news report, come true....


outside the stadium, super short.....


Another short one, it shows why I can't get a stadium expansion. Where would the owner of that van park if I got it?

Dola- someone in Scotland get me a Wee Rovers scarf and jersey/shirt. I will pay you back and pay for shipping.

edit: looks like I found a place online where I can get a retro 60's shirt. That may be ok.

That's not a bug.

The Penalty Kicker CANNOT touch the ball untill/unless another player touches it. It's a foul if they do. This is to prevent the PKer from taking a dribble and beating the goalie who's dived to stop a shot.

I think I found out what I want the 2d match engine to be changed to in future versions. It would kick ass to have this to look at, slowed down of course.......

Further investigating has led me to believe that using "fake" players doesn't create much of a random universe. The generated staff I'm seeing look a lot like the staff in the real life database. Looks like I'll have to edit the DB to get things the way I want. Wonder what will happen if I delete all of the staff...

Before or after your computer melts?

All four of the staff members on Peterborough you silly goose.

That is what I am saying. Your computer will melt if you do it, do you want to know what happens after that? ;)

The dumb joke is ruined now though... :mad:

On your topic though. Yes, my staff with then SD3 Albion Rovers sucked, too. A scout who couldn't scout, and an AssMan who by now is taking it in the ass for a living.

i would have to think this is a bug since it's happened relatively consistently . . .

a team would come in for one of my players -- maybe inquiry, maybe actual offer -- i would respond with a counter. the player would get unhappy due to me not allowing them to move.

i. didn't. reject. the. damn. offer.

i counter-offered. and these players are unhappy that i rejected the offer and did not allow them to move. this is getting irritating.

Looks better now. The generated ass man is somewhat competent, but more importantly he's not tied to a very long deal - only signed for one season. Same with the coach I was handed. Only problem I see is that by deleting the real life manager I seem to have lowered the threshold for my wage. It's been cut in half!

I haven't had that one happen yet. Crappy.

I do hate putting "reject all offers" for a guy and then every in-game day have to reject inquiries. Screw off wankers! He is not for sale!

In old versions, there used to be a comment that the player was frustrated with you for giving him an unrealistic value

I've noticed a lot of similarities of the real world universe with the fake universe. It looks like, to me that the players are all fake players but the attributes are all the same. IE the Los Angeles Galaxy have an old Portuguese defender as well as an aging English star in the MF and an overpaid primadonna AMC/F

dude, THANK YOU for saying that cuz that was the icing on the cake last night. I appreciate it, now I can go back to enjoying the game and the other 'lil bugs. :D

Alright, I caved and bought the D2D digital download version of WWSM, updated with the patch but I'm experiencing crashes all over the place when either saving or simming.

Anyone else have issues with this?

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the mods I've added, specifically a 'Susie' made competition and awards update file but I would like to uninstall and reinstall the game first to do some troubleshooting.

Question is: where/how do I delicense the game when uninstalling or is this even necessary?

I haven't had even a single issue. I think you've got the right idea, however

1. uninstall the game completely
2. re-install it to the basic 8.0.0 version
3. make sure it works
4. apply the 8.0.1 patch
5. make sure it works
6. keep going

I'll bet you find that an add-on is the culprit...

So with D2D you download the 8.0.0 version, and then have to patch it? Shouldn't you just be downloading 8.0.1 by itself now? That is what happens with the other download one (can't remember their stupid name) that I used. When I had to reinstall the game I didn't have to download the patch, it was already 8.0.1.

Yeah, maybe it's different with Boonty but with D2D, they only have the 8.0.0 version and I had to seperately download the patch.

Anyone know if I have to unlicense the game before reinstalling?

I wouldn't and I'm not even sure it's possible. That's what I don't like about these non-eLicense companies. You can't manually control your licenses.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I ran out of gas wading through this 23-page thread...

Amazon has World Wide Soccer Manager as their deal of the day for $16.99, and I'm thinking of getting it. I'm wondering though, are there any advantages to having the Football Manager version of the game? I know they are the same game, but in the past patches came out faster for Football Manager, and if I remember correctly, there were unofficial utilities that only worked for the Football Manager version. Wondering if that is still the case.

not particularly. Nothing to make the price-difference that worth it if amazon has it for 16.99

my boy fred had a 4-game span earlier in the year where he was 6-5-6-5 with zero goals and a nasty red card that resulted in a 3-game suspension.

Since his return he's been lighting it up though... 14 goals in 8 games (including hat tricks in the last 3 games straight).

He's now 31 goals in 36 appearances (plus 10 assists).

Thanks!

Buying now.

Yeah - if the price difference was more like $5-9 and shipping being the same, I'd get FM, but that's just too sweet of a deal to pass up.

Well, I've done a clean uninstall, reinstalled and I'm still getting crashes after putting the 8.0.1 patch in. I didn't seem to have any crash issues with the 8.0.0 version but perhaps I didn't test long enough.

So it's not any third party stuff causing the problem so I'm wondering if it's my monitor...

I just got a widescreen 22" LCD and I'm running at 1680x1050 resolution. I've tried running in both windowed mode and full screen, and I've crashed out of both. Maybe it's also a video driver issue?

Another strange thing but maybe this is what happens when you get WWSM instead of FM...I have the 8.0.1 installed but when I click on 'Check for Updates' it says there's an updated version available but it can't find it in the database.

I'm so frustrated right now :( I can't get the game to work for any period of time.

Are you sure you downloaded the right patch (and not the WWSM boxed one)? Just want to ask to make sure that's not what's wrong. Perhaps you'd have many more problems if you didn't, so maybe that's not even possible. The 'Check for Updates' thing is useless, pay no attention to that.

FWIW, I have the DD from D2D and I got the 8.0.1 patch via torrent from the link provided in the SI forums.

Where did you DL the 8.0.1 patch?

ANy luck with the tactic Todd? (I think it wasyou who was interested in it)

Just got a chance to start playing tonight - so far I've won 2 in a row, 5-3 and 3-0, so I like it a lot. I'm in the PLA 2nd division, so the competition isn't particularly good, but it's been fun.

Speaking of which, it is DAMN hard to get promoted out of the 2nd Level in the PLA (which mimics Norway's league setup). There are 4 separate divisions in the 2nd Level, and only the top team in each division promoted, so each year you're competing with the team relegated from the American Championship. The difference in team quality is pretty big, so I'm having a hard time breaking through - lots o fun! :)

So this was annoying - as Man City, I had a player turn me down because he wanted the opportunity to play in Europe - so he signed with Liverpool. This would be great, except I finished 3rd - one place above Liverpool, and with a quicker route to the Champions League. So yeah, that's a bug of sorts.

sounds like what he really meant was "i want the opportunity to play in europe year after year, not a one-off" :D

I definitely downloaded the DD version of the patch and actually have tried both the regular link and the mirror site as well through the SI forums thread right here.

Maybe I'll try the torrent link next. Interesting that they talk about Boonty, IGN and eSellerate but not D2D when talking about the Digital Download patch and interesting still that D2D doesn't have a patch on their site.

But as Toddzilla said, he has the D2D version and patched without trouble. I'll keep pounding away here and hope something works out. :( Thanks for all the help guys...it's much appreciated.

I've run a couple of diagnostic programs on my computer and found a couple of errors. I also updated my video driver (at least copied over my existing one ;)) and have successfully gone two months into a test session without an issue while saving daily.

We'll see if it holds up. Thanks again for everyone's help!

My team may be on the verge of driving me insane. Season two in SD1 and 15 games in. I am 8-0-7. For crying out loud, I can't turn a loss into a draw for squat. I kind of had one, but I "lost" 3 games last night when my computer locked up (not game related). It pissed me off because those three game I had gone 2-1-0, with the draw on the road against undefeated Dundee United. When I load up my last save I end up going 1-0-2.

At that point I was about to reach into my laptop and crush whatever felt like the size of the little circles that are supposed to be players. The the turn around I thought I had before the lost games finally came. Led by Joshua Home-Jackson at striker who out of nowhere blew up with 8-9-9-8 ratings over 4 games and scoring 7 goals with 1 assist. This is his second year on my team and he splits time with my Captain. Both are decent guys but I have to bring in a striker on loan to get consistent great play from one spot and help raise the level of those guys. He just earned himself more playing time I think. My 4 game win streak did come to an end though when he finally got cold with a big fat 6. This was after two weeks of the media worshiping him. He is only 20, so it was bound to go to his head.

yup, aware of that one. had that, too. but, as you said, in old versions. in this, none of the counters i have made for cesc, rosicky or vela have become their "asking price" (like in old versions) so it couldn't be their unrealistic values.

Thanks for the heads up. I purchased WWSM today after I discovered that it was indeed $16.99 despite not seeing it listed as a deal of the day anywhere on the site. Thanks again!

No problem. Glad to help out. It's been tempting me at $19.99 for the longest time, but $16.99 was just too good to pass up.

hmmmmm. so . . . with 6 months left on their deals, players are able to negotiate a pre-contract with teams.

except i can't with any players in the premiership. obi mikel came available since he has 6 months left on his contract . . . and i have no option to sign him. why?

For those curious how this ended up, my gamble paid off in spades. I ended up winning my league and moving up to a C1 league. My financial rating was horrible as I lost nearly 250K for the season, but the fans and board members were thrilled with my league championship.

My salary level was moved from 14K to 37K (I currently have 26K in salaries) and I'm currently the #1 team in the C1 league thanks to a mega-striker who's hung 15 goals in 11 appearances against better competition. My attendance is also up 2K per game. This has allowed me to profit 50K a month, which means my entire debt of 350K from the start of the year should be totally gone by February/March. By the end of the season, I should have plenty of transfer money available to pick up a couple of key additions to push towards a C1 championship next year.

The rule in England is 1 month for players already in England.

I was wondering the same thing as daedalus since it's always been like that in past version of the game but now there were players where I could offer a contract and some I couldn't. Just didn't realize these were all in England. dacman's explanation would make sense and show that it's now better represented in the game...

FM

In my 18th game of the season I finally have a game end in a draw. I am thinking that is the longest I have ever gone without a draw. My team is just so up or down it is driving me nuts. I shouldn't complain too much as I sit in 3rd place in SD1. What sucks is Dundee United, who was just relegated from the SPL for this season, are dominating and 11 points ahead of me with only one loss. If I can start avoiding some of these losses with draws I would feel much better though. My goal is just to finish better then last year, which was 5th.

I am starting to think that if I finish better then 5th, and the board won't make any improvements to the stadium or training facilities next year, I may look to move on. The media has been asking me about jobs again this year, one in the Championship League and one in Germany (which surprised me, I am a Scot/English with no connection to Germany). My stadium still only holds 1400 or so and I am at the bottom of league attendance because of that. Plus, with better training facilities I could get more out of my guys. I have a 19 yr old MC who could be a great player and want to maximize his potential.

I do hope that the next patch takes care of the board's response to losses. I had the board upset about a friendly loss for 2 months!

Is the board *really* upset about the things you guys are mentioning? I've got a smilar complaint -- that a guy I loaned in hasn't really shown himself to be doing much. My theory is that it seems like they're holding on to some complaints for a long time because they have to say something -- where I looked, there were three lines. The first line was the overall impression, the second line was something they liked about my coaching, and the third line was something they didn't like. Maybe they have to have something to complain about, and that's the best they can come up with?

FTR, I understand that a friendly shouldn't be complained about at all -- they whined about me losing a friendy to a "rival" too. :p

Well that was unexpected. We drew Valencia 2-2 in the knockout leg of the Champions League at my place, and I went to their place basically hoping we could score a couple so that we'd lose clean, not on away goals.

They had a man sent off after we were up 2-nil, and while we gave up three goals to them despite the man advantage, we scored another four of our own, and waltzed away as 6-3 away winners and 8-5 aggregate winners.

Hat trick from my starting striker capped it.

I really have no problems with the complaints right now. As I see it, very few are complaints from the Board itself, but the board telling you about the fans concerns. After seeing a Titan fan complain about his team in the playoffs last night, it is clear that fans can be a little unreasonable or unpredictable at times.....

Anyone know what a ballpark average for games played in a season might be? Obviously, it varies with a given player's stamina, but I was curious how others were using their squad. I tend to use a rotation early in the year and then gradually play a consistent first team as the season progresses. It's worked with Ajax so far as we have won two Dutch league championships out of two, but I've wondered if we might go further in other competitions if I played a consistent first team all the time.

So how do you use your squad when you have a solid first team and pretty solid second team?

I tend to lean quite heavily on my first-teamers - in fact almost exclusively. The exception to this is when I have 3 starting-caliber players. Then I will rotate.

Two years ago I rotated among 3 strikers. This year one of them aged a bit and fell off so I kept with the starting two and would spot-rest them with the third guy. However this year I had 3 starting-caliber MC's. So I employed a fairly-strict rotation system with the 2 DMC's, rotating them pretty much every other game (except of course for times when there were injuries). I thought I would be doing the same with my MR's, but one of them seized the starting job.

I never ever rotate defenders. I like to think that they have "unit cohesion" (not sure if they do at all or if it's team-wide), but my backline will stay steady unless there's injury.

My first team usually is in there every match. Injuries being the exception of course. I have one or two guys who can't handle a 3 matches in 7 days stretch very well, so he may sit one of those games if needed but not always.

At striker I rotate one spot because no one has emerged as being consistent enough to hold it down full time. My guy who I thought just did went cold and now is injured, I am waiting to see how he plays when he returns in two weeks.

Newcastle, Middlesborough or Man City...who do I want as a feeder??

hehe

I've been seeing a ton of missed penalty kicks. In fact, when a penalty has occurred in the box in my games, exactly NONE of them have been converted. I've missed two, and my opponents have missed four. I'm thinking that this screams BUG, but my search to this point hasn't turned any up.

I missed 3 in a row in different games this past season. *shrug*

My team usually make PKs. Maybe miss 3 (maybe 4) out of every 10.

can't decide who I want to be my feeder in England.

Newcastle got dropped down for being in administration but are predicted to come back up.

Man City and Middlesborough are both bottom-dwellers in the premier league, with Man City being predicted to finish slightly better...

I'm leaning Newcastle...

Question for those of you who have some international management experience: How do you go about putting together a staff for your international teams? I was just appointed manager of the Ivory Coast, and am struggling and wondering how to find an Assisstant Manager and perhaps a coach. There are no native Ivorians that come up when I search staff, and lots of coaches have turned me down--I looked at coaches from other African countries, young coaches, coaches from my staff at my club, etc. and can't get anyone to accept. The funny thing is that many of these people haven't had great coaching stats, so I really have no idea how to proceed...

Thanks for any help!

IMO this is an area that SI need to fix. Either through having a "phantom backroom staff" for international management or by letting you advertise for it. I've had times where I'm managing a small country (Columbia comes to mind) and I couldn't get anyone to come and be on staff.

You don't need as extensive a staff...an assman...maybe a scout or two is about all.

I wish you could advertise for it...

funny thing is that as ivory coast I had that same problem. I think I found some crap guy somewhere at some italian c1 club or something

that blows.

the limitation, not you.

thanks, dac!!! :)

so awards like "european striker of the year" are totally based on international performance for country and not performance for club, right??

i'm the 2nd richest club in the world...why does my chairman still insist on holding the line on staff wages? I have $20m extra in player wages, how come some of that can't be allocated to staff wages? i'm losing good staff because of this...it sucks

Currently playing Millwall in the Coca-Cola Championship and just had my Keeper (Preston Edwards) score a goal that took an odd bounce over the opposing Keepers head.........We are fighting for a spot in the promotion playoffs due mainly to his play and the emergence of new finnish signing Juho Makela who has 29 goals in 32 Championship games.

This game is definitely in a tightly contested race for my favorite sports game ever with Title Bout and FOF-TCY.

I've been trying a version of your 2-3-2-2-1 formation too. It seems to work best when playing against a team that are going for the win, but struggles more when you're playing against an ultra-defensive team. I've had a few games at home to strugglers that have ended up in draws because my team couldnt make a breakthrough. I think this is partly due to the tactic (the fast pace and tight marking don't work well against the ultra defensive) and partly due to me only having one reliable striker and a yard long injury list. A champions league tie v Red Star Belgrade injured 8 of my starting 11 over the 2 legs, Red Star kicked us all over the place, and it's made the start of the league campaign more difficult than it should have been.

I also had a problem with defending a late lead, especially when the opponent went to 4-2-4 for the last 10 minutes to chase a game. I've made a version of the tactic with the fullbacks and wingers pulled back into a boring 4-1-4-1 counter attack version to defend leads and that seems to work better.

You said the tactic needed a couple of shutdown central defenders, and it's definitely looked a lot better since I bought myself a new central defense. The tactic is really a lot more defensively sound than it looks at first glance, the pushed forward fullbacks work a lot better than I expected.

16 games into the season my team has won 8, drawn 8 and lost none, so it's looking good.

fyi - for daedelus

my GK who I was worried about "could he step it up?" last night?

Over the course of the season today (which is 5 games from over) he has

46 appearances...only 29 goals conceeded, and 25 clean sheets.

so yeah...i'd say he has finally stepped it up

For those of you currently playing this game. Is the latest patch working fine or should I be waiting for the next patch for something serious? thanks in advance

The game is very good in its current state. No need to hold off on playing.

Seconded, the most immersive sports sim out there.

+1000

Do you guys know if skins designed for FM will work in WWSM? I tried the Flex skin as I wanted a darker background, but when I went to change it, the game just hung for >15 minutes. I just quit, reinstalled and have been using the default skin (my eyes are bleeding!). Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks for the help. Time to fire it up again.

I've had no problems with FM skins in WWSM so far. I don't think 07 skins work with 08, but other than that it should be fine.

Skipped 07...but played the snot out of 06...I've got to say this new version is just awesome...I'm playing this game at least 4 hours a day and nothing else...

If you're waiting for the game to be in a "perfect" condition, I'd say jump in now...I haven't seen anything to deter me from playing a long-term game with this version...

Quick question...I just got Southend promoted up to the Championship in the first season...but I've yet to see ANY international jobs listed as I'm now 1/2 way through the 08/09 season...

Any ideas why this is so? I'm looking forward to taking a smaller country over in addition to getting my Southenders up into the Premier...

Ended my 2nd SD1 season in 3rd, up from 5th the year before. It is good, but a bit disappointing after the holding 1st for a week with 10 matches left. Playing my friendlies going into season 3. It is so hard to sign/buy players though even with some money to do so. I have a crap stadium, bad training facilities, and still officially semi-pro. Still, if i don't get 2nd or 1st this year I am not sure I can get much better next year.

There needs to be a reason to get fired (international) for you to be able to play as that country as well as...50 players available in the world that are "signable" and eligible for the national team

Has anyone gotten further into the game and seen whether coaching the smaller type countries as an international is worthwhile? My usual goal is to jump on the USA job a few years into playing, though who knows how long it will take for the job to open (Arenas was always gone soon after starting, Bradley may stick around)...but if the USA job isn't open, I usually find a job with a small European team or Latin American...are there players available (small database)?

In my game (MLS, England to L1, Italy 2 leagues, and Scotland Premier) has a few small counties, mostly in the America's. USA sucks more then it does now, Mexico is awesome, decent S.A. countries too. I'm in year 2031 as it stands so there are teams to be played, but USA is not a team I would consider a thread. Most of the passable talent is about aged 30 or so with declining physical skills.

Very cool. Just into the first few weeks of my 3rd SD1 season. With only two forwards on loan from parent club Rangers, I went to see if they had any new backs. Both my centre backs for most of last season where on loan from Rangers but I replaced them with my own guys towards the end because I was unhappy with them, and didn't want to even try for them this year.

When I looked I saw a new 19 year old on their reserves I hadn't seen before. He plays both left and right defender spots and is definetly better then one of the guys I have starting there now, maybe better then both. So I ask for him on loan, and I just found out he agreed. Then he comes onboard and besides the normal "happy for a chance at first team action" comment I get....

"Brown is excited at joining the Albion Rovers and hopes the move ends up being a permanent one. He immediately told a local paper he felt at home."

Nice. I have never had a guy on loan say that before. If he does good I will definetly buy the guy.

Hmm. Do leagues have to be active for feeder links to work?

Nope

Hmm. I wound up with Sporting as my feeder link for citizenship, but it's greyed out whenever I try to send anyone there.

What do I need to do to make that work?

be within the transfer windows of both leagues?

Could be. Now I just have to figure out what that window is for the spanish league. thanks for the suggestion.

just click on the league somewhere (so you have the standings up for example). Then there should be a "rules" link on the left side with the transfer windows in it

oh here

July 2nd - August 31

AND

January 2nd - January 30th (excludes players who have played 5 games in the division they are trying to transfer into already that season)

3rd season in SD1 is off to a great start. I am 2-2-0 and sitting in first. I just took out Clyde, freshly relegated from the SPL and favored to win SD1, 4-1 at their place. I know at times I was frustrated with only being able to sign SPL and English reject 18 and 19 year olds, but they were doing well and are paying off bigtime I think now. Getting them trained properly (at least I think) has given me a pretty good team full of 1st teamers who are 20-23 and now have been together multiple years and still getting better.

Negatives: I only want one more coach so I can get Shooting training up above the 3 stars it is now. My stupid board only suggests one though and I have 5. They won't let me get any more. As someone said with their coaches salary earlier, it annoys me when I have surplus transfer and salary money and they won't let me take care of my coaching staff how I see fit. Maybe if the board ever decides to turn PRO I can get more coaches.

Positive: The frickin' board finally agreed to upgrade my training facilities after asking for years. I am at "adequate" for both training and youth training. Getting one bumped up is nice. This should help me train my players better should it not?

Ok, I need to fight off the urge to keep playing. I need to get some sleep. I have to get up by 5 am.

Pretty sure you have to have the league active in order to get to the standings screen, and that's been my issue all along. I don't have enough RAM to roll with more than just England active. :)

How does this work exactly?

It's a team in another EU nation. Way the EU works, if you're a citizen of a member nation, you can work/live in any other, as I understand it.

Sign a player who can't get an English work permit, send 'em to a feeder in an EU nation, then bring 'em back once they've earned their citizenship in that country.

I'm sure I'm probably screwing part of the explanation up, but that's how I understand it.

nice! and we were worried for nothing. :D

yes. course the $90m that I spent on Micah Richards from Tottenham probably helped to shore up the right side of my defense where Zaccardo was ageing too. 39 game unbeaten streak!!

the season is complete (well...minus 2 games - the Italian Cup final and the CL Final) and he's

54 appearances

33 goals against

29 clean sheets

edit: and Buffon just finished out his career with a victory at the Olympic Stadium. Pulled him off in the 85th minute, and I could heard the cheers and the standing ovation from the little computer-crowd in my head.

Man I love this game.

I had this one happen to me with a young striker coming on loan frmo pur parent club Arsenal. I didn't really need him when I signed him for a loan and I pretty much forgot about him while he was playing for our reserves for like 3/4 of the season until I brought him up for one game and he tore it up, scoring on an amazing run. He finished the season with 6 goals in 7 games, 2 MoM and an average form rating of 7.71. His loan came to an end and I made it my priority to sign that 19yo phenom in the offseason as soon as my board would unlock some funds. Did so to the sound of $900k but the kid has sadly turned into a shmock, averagin only 6.00 in form over the first 6 games of the season. In his last game, when he looked like he was waking up, he got hurt and will miss a month or so...

That's the kind of thing that makes FM/WWSM so immersive and amazing. I mean, players feel like they really live, like they're real damnit! I care deeply when we lose a game. I still remember being so upset when I got sacked by Luton back in FM2005, was upset for a whole week... Simply a great game...

Among other funny things that make it real is the 2D engine. You ever seen it when a contested decision happens? Pay attention next time and you might see a bunch of players huddling up around the referee or maybe one or two of them going to the assistant referee to complain that a players was offside on a goal. Hilarious. Just saw two players run to the assistant to complain about such an instance, then read "the referee warns Chris Morgan". Sure enough, one of the two complainers was said Chris Morgan... :D

FM

dola, and yup, not that it will keep me from enjoying the game, but something will definitely need to be tweaked with that confidence thing...

Third round of the Carling Cup, overall expectations were to make it to round 2, so we're already past that. We drew Tottenham for that 3rd round, ouch. We're still battling it up in Leagu One and we get to play that Premiership club. The media anticipate and killing with The Spurs 1-2 favorites.

We start the game and dang, we are hanging in there. We even get a penaly in the 9th minute that we piss away by kicking it to the keeper. We take a 1-0 lead in the 21st minute on an amazing cross to the 6 yard box headed straight in by my new winger just signed in the offseason. They are pressuring us like crazy but we hang in there for the whole game. We even go down a man when that same winger gets injured and has to be taken off after I'd done all my three subs. In the 84th minute the pressure is too much and my keeper makes a rare mistake coming out of his goal. 1-1 after 90. It's the League Cup so it's extra time, 10 players and all, they end up scoring at the start of the second period of extra time. We lose it 1-2.

Now about my fans, are they happy, despite the loss? Nope, they are VERY disappointed, the kind of disappointed I've never seen before. There's not even a tiny bit of yellow showing on their appreciation bar, NOTHING, ungrateful bastards. Sure, they outshot us something like 27-4 but damnit, we were leading, and gave up the two goals when playing with only 10 men, against a freaking premiership club, what else should we be doing to make you happy? Free blow job at the half???

Oh well...

FM

I honestly think something is backwards in the confidence calculation somewhere. One of my games I lost to a non-league team in FA Cup despite being heavy favorites and my fans were rather indifferent.

Okay,
this is crazy: Beat AC-Milan 4-1 as Man City to qualify for the Champions League - then got thrashed 5-1 by Newcastle, only to thrash Arsenal 4-1 away from home. My team gives me more heartache than real life does.

Not sure what level your team is at, but I could see this happening, especially if you are challenging for promotion in your league.

there's an idea...

did you ever have an opposing team that you always seemed to draw in cup competitions? for me it's the glam rock squad Rushden & Diamonds:

2008 FA Trophy (we lose 1-4)
2010 FA Cup (we lose 0-7)
2011 Setanta Shield (...)