LOL!!! There are surely a number of ghosts from the FOFC past.

Okay this is nuts! This thread has half as many views as the reference thread. This thread has to win some type of award or something.

This is my first post since two years but I have been following this forum and Matrix Max FB forum. I could not have laughed more yesterday with the posts in here.

I will try Max FB, I will try NFL HC (if both are ever available) but I don´t believe any football game will beat FOF, simply the best. While everyone at Matrix was cutting their veins because the game was not out I was playing FOF and winning back to back FOF championships.

On a serious note, Mrs. Winter needs some help. She reminds me of Angie Stallings. In fact David reminds me of Joe. She comes sweeping in when everyone starts bashing the crap out of him.

Now my wife, she simply tries to ignore the fool i make of myself on the internet. She sure as heck isn't going to blindly defend me when I'm being an asshole/troll.


Wintervalley Software and Joe Stallings Present ----- Total Pro Maxium Tournament Football without the Option Dreams.

Now that would be a classic.

Wow! This game even caused long time lurkers to start posting after two years. You must post more often sir. I don't want to see you get banned for one wrong word. :p

This thread is missing an Antmeister parody song. Of course, perhaps he's holding it back for the release... :D

that's ok, FOFC isn't about football anymore than microsoft is about tiny cushiony products.

Please post your impressions (assuming it's ever released). I was going to buy it, but now? No way.

I also posted for the first time in two years mostly because TCY soured me that FOF was going toward a no fun football Tamagotchi. I don't think anyone is expecting MaxFB to be an upgrade to FBPro98 or have the depth of FOF. But MaxFB gives those of us who want a coaches game a hope, at least better than Division Rivals.

Man you must really be desperate.

Now they are saying the Thursday release will not be earlier than Friday, and to expect Monday...

Cue Benny Hill music.

why can't they just say "it'll be released in a week", and if it's ready by monday then at least they can surprise their "customers" (quotation marks cuz i don't think anyone is gonna be buying this)? why continually set your customers up for disappointment. if i was a developer i'd always give my followers the worst-case scenario and then beat that date by a wide margin.

we call that "under promise and over deliver" around here :)

They seem to have it the other way around though: "over promise and under deliver?" :D

FM

Instead of going gold, they should call it "going gold-pressed latinum" or something equally fictional.

"Sir, Maximum Football...she's gone plaid."

"Keep coding @sshole!"

:D

A full weekend of tension, infighting, and ridicule, oh, my! This thread may yet catch up to the reference thread as most viewed by then. :)

Welcome back druez.. ;)

I must admit I find it somewhat amusing that a relatively large percentage of the posters on the Maximus Football board own the book "Football for Dummies". :D

KWhit, I will let you know but believe me I rather keep reading the forums with all the jokes than getting the game. It has been so much fun. Every time they delay the game another day it means more jokes and more fun to me.

As I said before I am curious about the game, I mean something that took 5 years to develop is a MUST PLAY game however I do not believe anyone will reach the standars of Jim and FOF. No pair of games have I enjoyed more than FOF and TCY.

This is gonna get ulgy....er

The UIC on that board is just incredible. :D

I had such an urge to post "several" right after that post.

Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 18 (18 members and 0 guests)
bbor, albionmoonlight, Bad-example, Bee, Desmond, Dutch, Ender22, FrogMan, KWhit, miked, perezsuarez, QuikSand, Simms, st.cronin, Surtt, Thornbird, vtbub, wheels

The above people all took today off to play maxifootball.

:D

Dammit....i forgot to exclude myself.:)

Only Chuck Norris knows the answer, because he's the only person that can count to that number. And he did it twice.

:D

Don´t worry bbor I am at work so count me out hehehe. I would not have been able to finish my bachelor if I would have waited for the game to be released.

I actually think it's more funny to look at the active users on the MF forum...


We've got a strong FOFC influence over there today... :D

Anyone want to play in my ferengi league? I think the biggest thing we need to worry about it how many wormholes to have on the field..

[img]images/styles/yellow/statusicon/post_new.gif[/img] Today, 01:49 PM	#1123
Bee Grizzled Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Fairfax, VA Posts: 5,449	Quote: How many bugs we're there ? The UIC on that board is just incredible. [img]images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Lay off, Bee. That guy went out of his way to put that apostrophe there.

Or maybe he misplaced the question mark, and left out an exclamation point. Example:


:D

No I took the day off to read this thread. :p

I actually did take today off, but it was because I had 2 finals to take today. Not to play some piece of crap buggy game I used to play 10 years ago with no bugs and NFL rules. :D

(good catch on the mbMike username. Did you know that was a psuedonym of Dutch?)

From the Matrix boards:


I weep for humanity...

I still am stunned that they will not release a demo of the game for folks to try first before buying.

For a company even the size of Matrix Games, a demo would show whatever proposed strengths the game has, as well as (to the experienced sports sim fans) the obvious flaws and shortcomings. For the beta project to NOT be using a licensed installer during the beta process is tantamount to bad alpha/beta testing. You have to test your installer LONG before the game is to be released, so any configuration issues are resolved.

Up to this point, I was like a few people believing the problem was mostly Winters' fault, and Matrix having to clean up what they were brought. (Still strong possibility) But I believe that Matrix was not prepared for a product like this, since their previous experience with PureSim Baseball was so smooth, and Sullivan knows his coding very well, and brought a complete project to Matrix's stable.

But for testing to continue for what is presented as simple fixes after gold standard is announced, for a process that should have been tested all along during the beta session, is Matrix Games' fault. There can be no excuse for this kind of slipshod testing this late in the proposed game release.

I will definitely be watching this thru the weekend to see if they can get the fires put out.

I didn't know it was you, but it pretty obvious that it was someone from here... ;)

Dola-

And our presence strengthens!


12 out of the 28 users over there are FOFCers!

I wonder who the other 11 donkeydongs are.

If they would just come out and say "this game will be released this century" they wouldn't have to keep pushing back the deadline.

And this will be the 2nd most viewed thread by the end of this weekend.

Har!

Oh, and TCDale=hoosierdude, Jeebs.

Who is donkeydong?

Oh yeah, that post. :)

Har!

Aha! I knew the name from somewhere (OOTP boards?) but I had forgotten that he's here as well... :o



Smurfy...

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...70&postcount=3

Woohoo!

I'm not surprised at all.

Speaking of the OOTP boards, has anyone checked over there to see what they're saying about MaxiFootball.

Dean Houston in the hizzouse.

Yeah. He's stirring things up.

:D

The same...mostly negative.

Love the Dean Houston post, though maybe it really is jbmagic pretending to be HA... :D

Oh, yeah. It's a pretty fun read, too. Kinda like this thread with maybe 33% of the cynicism (and 0% of the YTMNDs).

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=109599

Their thread isn't nearly as long, but contains a few nuggets. Plus, extra points for the #1 MF fanboy showing up there:

02-16-2006, 01:04 AM	#61
Jestor All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,547 Warnings: 1	Quote: Originally Posted by Tullius "Next Week" is an official release date. Eric Rutkins thinks that the game is ready on Monday. So "Monday" is the target. This will be part of Updates. You can improve every game so MF is never like all other games finished. Thinks. Target. These are not words that indicate a certainty. I'm still not holding my breath. And part of updates? No, you mean, part of patching because the programmer goofed off for a year without adding anything of value to the game. Honestly it sounds to me like he's half-assing it and relying on the third party developers to do most of the dirty work for him. Quote: Here i am not really surprised when you look at all the bashing , prejudicies and assumptions based on rumors and false "facts". When you read many posts you have to think that all these users have invested money in this project and want now a return. Many of these suggegstions did not realize that there is a difference between what he can do and what is (at the moment) impossible. But the simple fact is DW is the developer and decides how this game will look. The user has right to achieve correct informations so he can decide if he wants this game but he can claim nothing more. Even when DW sas now MF will never released you can claim nothing. On the other said DW can not claim that you like his game. It is only offer. I'm sorry, but a guy who publically whines about quitting a project he's been working on for four or five YEARS, whatever the exact amount is, a few WEEKS before the alleged release date strikes me as someone who doesn't have the commitment or the stomach for the business. Criticism is a natural part of any business world and if he's so thin-skinned he can't recognize that he deserves a lot of flak for his repeated delays, pathetic add-on features after having an entire year to add a career mode (the reason the last delay was given for), then he has absolutely no business being an independent developer and should contribute what talents he might have to a larger corporation, where he has a much smaller audience to deal with. But oh wait, that'd mean he'd have to meet deadlines in a timely fashion, wouldn't he? This kid's got a lot of growing up to do and I strongly believe he's going to face an even more powerful firestorm of criticism when the game comes out than what he's faced now. When you've taken this long to work on a project and the game feels incomplete, the sim engine is busted, or there's major, major bugs, etc... whatever the problems are, you're going to get a hell of a lot more heat for it. Maybe he'll prove me wrong and the product will actually turn out decent. Maybe he'll stop being so defensive and condemning of those who offer critiques of his game. But right now, from where I stand, there's a better chance of my hooking up a threesome with Amy Lee and Kirsten Dunst than either of those things happening.

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02-17-2006, 10:36 PM	#62
Malleus Dei Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Loving it as his plan comes together Posts: 5,120	Quote: Originally Posted by Deft I think he underestimated things a tad. This is from his home page. "Expect to see Maximum-Football available in 2002." David Winters April 2001 Well, here's the new slogan then: "Maximum Football: hey, it's only five years late!" __________________

02-18-2006, 11:41 AM	#68
CalvinHobbes Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto Posts: 85	What about Football Mogul? Is it alright? Can you actually play games like FOF, or is it just the financial/GM role you fill. In any case, I hope that FOF comes out with a new version soon. Something more customizable. I thought the game engine was very good, or at least good enough for Arlie(?) to consider other improvements. BTW, is Skydog Arlie? I haven't seen him post in a while. __________________ In my opinion, we don't devote nearly enough scientific research to finding a cure for jerks.

Yesterday, 06:59 PM	#83
darkenigma510 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Great White North Posts: 48	Quote: Originally Posted by GForce Is that from the guy's wife? Oh brother. GH Yes. Oh sorry, no, its from "Media Relations" LOL I love the condescending tone in it, looking down on anyone who dares to criticize all these endless delays. You would think they were releasing shareware or something.

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Yesterday, 08:43 PM	#85
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, TN Posts: 2,588	Next post is from his mom.

Today, 11:57 AM	#87
Dan Theman All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,970	Quote: Originally Posted by Cooleyvol Next post is from his mom. Are you sure you don't you mean the "Laundry Relations Liason"? __________________

Dean Houston is channelling jbmagic, it would appear. :eek:

This is like watching a car wreck. But one where, every so often, someone walks over and punches the driver in the face as he struggles to free himself from the wreckage.

So who is JeeberISaDork?

I gotta say I like the name!

Great analogy. I'm drawing stares from my coworkers as I try to withhold the giggles.

Quick somebody register deanhoustonhasasmallwiener.

I'm laughing at this in an empty room. Damn you.

Easily the greatest thing that HA has ever done... :D

I'm cracking up at Dean over there. Whoever that is is in rare form.

agreed. brilliant!

Wow, Dean Houston is funny.

I'm enjoying dean as well. It's an impressive jbmagic impersonation.

Hmmm...looks like the Breeze over there isn't our Breeze after all.

Gee.. ya think? Dork. :)

A Breeze divided against itself cannot exist.

We don't have a guy named FroznMonkey as well do we?

Heh, finally went over. I think we need an Erik Flamebeard to go alongside Dean.

At OOTP:
I seeeeeee yoooooooou.
Go ahead. Post. You know you wanna.....

OOTP frightens me! :eek:

I think Dean is going for the Wigfecta over at Matrix.

Go Dean Go!

ROFL...more UIC from the Maximus Board.

Is that the real FranklinNoble or an impersonator? It seems like him, since it's a parrot post and offers nothing of value. If so, that message forum is starting to turn into The FOFC Boneyard. We just need mrs skippy to wander in with a rant and Happy29 to meltdown and that board will be an FOFC clone, just not built around an actual piece of software.

Dean got a thread closed.

Dean Houston is jbmagic on steroids. :D

I almost feel sorry for Erik, HA's playing him like a yoyo...

Oh, that is classic.

UIC?


Forgive my ignorance.

Actually, I think I was the one who got that thread closed.

unintentional comedy

Danke

Well, a combination. Without the jb-style whining, that thread is probably still open.

I can't believe he has 21 posts in this short a time, with the mod there, and he hasn't been banned, suspended, or even chastised.

Do you ever get the feeling that some people are expecting a lot deeper game than the one being produced?

There's more people on their board now than were there the night it was supposed to be released. I guess Dean Houston is more popular than MF. :D

Well the 5 yard zone rule could conflict with the teleport ability, so I could see that delaying the release if it's added.

I almost feel bad for the guys offering to help Dean Houston understand the CFL.

The dam has been burst

But it does make for comedic gold!

i swear, it's addictive.

and for the record, jbmagic is a total farce. you can so easily keep up that act forever.

I'm really hoping to see CFL FAN 7 come back to help answer some of Dean Houston's questions. :D

Try looking up the word 'tolerance' in a dictionary.

could you ban this?

Jon's sig says something about it being the virtue of the man without convictions. Works for me. ;)

Cool. Are you all for murdering 12-year old file-sharers as well?

other than being able to find useless old posts rather quickly you really haven't contributed to FOFC much, so you're a good candidate for a banning. that ice underneath you, is it me or is it slowly cracking?

i'd tread carefully or you'll be feeding Suicane bon-bons in your own private clubhouse in no time.

Is that a real pic of ... and I quote ....

:cool:

I grow weary of your trolling. See you in two weeks.

Later, loser.