5,552 posts in, Kodos finally joins the fray. Never fear, my friends. Reinforcements are here!

Max Football suxxors!!1!

No, he's specifically ignoring repeated requests to provide helpful information. He's been asked to provide screenshots of stats 127.3495 times and acts as if the question has never been asked.

If he limited himself to "I like MF. For me the fun of playing the game outweighs the defeciencies in the engine," nobody would care. When he claims the game is sound statistically but refuses to provide proof, he sets himself up as an easy target.

Let's rock this joint!

Sssssssssssmokin'!

It is amazing the similarity in styles of Marauders trumpeting Max-FB and Mizzou B-Ball Fan's defense of the PS3. Can I get an IP check? :)

Ahhh... nothing like geek on geek violence. :D

Sorry if my sarcasm detector is on the fritz, but are you serious? He's defending the indefensible, a game that isn't close to Madden as a 3D football game and laughably far from FOF as a sim, yet takes pot-shots at both while failing to either grasp why his arguments are ridiculous (re: quick-simmed stats in Maximum Hilarity) or providing any evidence that said stats engine provides any kind of realistic results (which it can't anyway with maximum run and pass gains ridiculously limited).

Look, if I'm a buddy of Daivd's I look at Maximum Hilarity and say "Damn, that's an impressive amount of work for a single programmer to undertake - I admire your dedication and perserverance". As a customer though, I look at it and say "What's the point of this product? Unless my main interest in a football game is customized uniforms, this game does nothing that other products on the market don't do a lot better, and for something other than a very discounted price to reflect the (lack of) quality of the game".

Seriously, why would anyone come into this thread and try to trumpet a game and yet provide us with nothing. His purpose in coming here was to refute what was being said about the game, yet that may not be all the motives. I still don't understand why he would choose this thread to trumpet the game when he could have easily started a new thread.

It's almost as if he wants to thread to thrive. This thread has almost seen a certain death a couple of times and both times, he comes out of the blue when the thread had been inactive for a while.

If he really wanted to be helpful, he would be providing screenshots, information about a demo being released, elaborate on how to work the new features in the game, etc. Not happening.

"John Cena says that Maximum Football 2 doesn't NEED to prove anything to you! RAAAAAWR!"

Seriously. I want to see how the game has changed. I CAN'T GET TO THE GAME!

Funny, Matrix Games just rounded that up to 2.

Nice call by Riggins in Post 66 of the thread.

HEY MARUADERS,

Why do you keep ignoring the requests for screenshots showing realistic stats. We've been asking for months. A few months ago you said you would post them, you never did. You come on here and respond to questions, yet you completely ignore the requests for screenshots. How come?

Yeah, I'm itchin' to photoshop something new.

There'd have been an enormous and resounding outcry of rage if someone tried to come up in here with substantive Maximum Pratfall info in a new thread, Ant. Enormous. And Resounding.

This thread lives, and nothing you nor the forces of Darkness under the command of Daivd can do will change that fact.

VOTE ANTMEISTER

Oh, and hey, Brad.

Crim is acting a bit out of character by attacking Ant... wolflike, I gander.

Vote Crim

Hello.

VOTE PUMPY PIX

Saw this thread slowing down over the last couple of days, so let's try to get some wind in the sails.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1579666

Time to get nit-picky!

And another.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1578409






So don't think of Michael Vick as being out of football, think of him being fatigued from continually running.

And seriously the biggest issue with the new version of Maximum Football 2.0 is that End Zone art is not showing up.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1572994

It has the most views and posts. I mean who cares if your team actually lines up inside the end zone (might be fixed now) but if the end zone art does not show up, you are going to hear about it. :D

I can not resist.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=1579371

This was posted yesterday as of yet, not response. Must be too busy working on the end zone art bug. :D

If I create a new utility that will convert FOF teams to Maximum Football rosters for the purpose of multiplayer game shots, can I call it "Maximator" to keep in line with my utility naming scheme, or do I have to stick with the default name "Maximizer"?

how about "maxibator"?

It seems as though every troubleshooting involves video cards. It's funny, when I play Civ4, Might and Magic, and more games of the sort, there is no problem whatsoever. And that was on and old machine. So how can a game that has so little statistical generation and AI require so much juice? Is the art and rendering that special? Why when people are asking about their QBs throwing 30 straight incompletions does frame rate enter in? Odd.

The thing that always makes me chuckle is when they write, "Good game! This is the best thing since FBPro98, but.....", and then they list a number of mind boggling issues like:

"My players are doing the YMCA around a live ball. I prefer the Cabbage Patch or Running Man but don't know how to change dance sequences."

"My Defensive End just threw a 225 yard bomb to the punter for 3 touchdowns all in one spectular play! Maybe this is something you can look into because I am pretty sure that should have counted for 5 safties."

"There's this 3D fan that bum rushes the field everytime I rename one of the players to Tom Brady. I think he's from some kind of street in the city of Cronin? Is there a Canadian city named Cronin? If not, I would like to customize the city details of that fan to represent an American city since I have created a Professional Pee Wee league."

"The players seem to be a different race below the waist then they are above the waist. This is an unacceptable level of customization. I want to be able to change the race for each body part so that it color coordinates with my Bengals-Panthers mish mash uniforms."

Now you're just being silly. Unless it imports the uniforms, it's of no use whatsoever. :D

I feel sorry for the players who are black above the waist and white below. It's like having to deal with all the racism without any of the advantages we have.
;)

You're black?

A black sheriff?

Video card issues have nothing to do with AI - it's all about rendering what you see. Since Maximum Hilarity is a 3D football game, there's a lot of graphical information to be processed on-screen - pushing 22+ skeletons (not sure if there are moving refs, sideline players/coaches or fans) all at once with textured models for all of those players, plus the environments and the lighting.

I believe I read that Daivd has updated the game to run using one of the 2 latest versions of DirectX (either 9 or 10), and if some of his customers are using older video cards that don't support that standard, or are simply underpowered given the nature of the game, I can easily see why video card issues would be the main focus of troubleshooting.

When I was with MS doing sports games prior to the Xbox, dealing with all the different possible video cards for our PC sports games was a nightmare.

Maybe he is black were it counts? ;)

Reading this thread reminded me of a thread from some years ago:

http://www.operationsports.com/fofc/...ad.php?t=10090

I'm not too up to date on gridiron text sims and know little about what has happened over the last 4 years. FOF has always been a little too dry for me. Have we seen anything closer to the game discussed in that thread yet? If so can you point me in the right direction?

I'm too lazy to see if this was posted previously, but I just saw this press release on Wargamer.com. The quotes are simply fantastic...

He really needs to work on his analogies.

"Football fans everywhere will want to hit this update and install it like it was a rushing hole on fourth and goal.”

Hahahahaha!

Denny Green, formerly of Oakland, CA echos the above sentiments, "I know my football and Maximum Football 2 is as realistic as it gets!"

Install it
Like it was a rushing hole
On fourth and goal.

It's like some bizarro Maximum haiku.

I love installing rushing holes.

"...for their well received football simulation and management game..."

:D

In the immortal words of the Godfather of Soul:

CAN I HIT IT AND QUIT IT?

Sherman, set the Wayback Machine to earlier in this thread...

How did you not highlight this...


Also, I can only hope that this is in reference to Daivd. What I would do to get down and dirty with the man himself...

It's version 2, bitches!

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

When there's something strange, on your computer screen
Who you gonna call?
Daivd!
When players teleport, and your beer tent's green
Who you gonna call?
Daivd!

The word "gaping" needed to be part of that press release.