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BYU 14 07-31-2017 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CrescentMoonie (Post 3168619)
Sounds like Kelly immediately nixed him. A friend on FB just bemoaned the fact that he didn't even make it to the next season of SNL.


LOL, that actually is the only negative here.

Edward64 07-31-2017 02:30 PM

Spicer must be grinning from ear to ear.

JonInMiddleGA 07-31-2017 02:36 PM

All of that ... just to get rid of Preibus?

Even I can't figure out THIS one.

Bee 07-31-2017 03:12 PM

Does it actually count? His official start date was August 15th.

Thomkal 07-31-2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3168629)
Spicer must be grinning from ear to ear.


yeah some reports have Spicer helping with the resignation message, so it must be a very big grin indeed. I like that Kelly is taking over like this from Day 1. but I will reserve my judgment until he names a replacement.

Hope he goes after Bannon next

RainMaker 07-31-2017 04:42 PM

Doesn't firing Bannon complicate matters since he can use Breitbart against the Trump administration?

Thomkal 07-31-2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RainMaker (Post 3168645)
Doesn't firing Bannon complicate matters since he can use Breitbart against the Trump administration?


well he already has all the media except Fox and Breibart against him already, so what's one more? I think he could get away with it with the same excuse he used with "mooch".

ISiddiqui 07-31-2017 04:56 PM

Eh... Bannon has been a huge fan of Kelly's, so I doubt Kelly is going to turn around and fire one of the guys that was instrumental in getting him the CoS job.

Thomkal 07-31-2017 05:04 PM

This probably won't help Rep. Flake make any friends in the White House (not that he had many)

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump - POLITICO Magazine

JPhillips 07-31-2017 05:35 PM

Mooch is the Quentyn Martell of the Trump administration.

RainMaker 07-31-2017 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3168646)
well he already has all the media except Fox and Breibart against him already, so what's one more? I think he could get away with it with the same excuse he used with "mooch".


Well his supporters only read those outlets. When state media turns against you, it makes things a little harder.

I do think Fox will stay loyal but Bannon has the power to hammer away at him online if they want.

Edward64 07-31-2017 05:54 PM

FWIW, I saw Huckabee Sanders press conference today. I thought she did well in the parts that I saw, much better than Spicer

Shkspr 07-31-2017 06:03 PM

Happily, some pushback against Scaramucci's "hair and makeup" comments.

BYU 14 07-31-2017 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 3168648)
This probably won't help Rep. Flake make any friends in the White House (not that he had many)

My Party Is in Denial About Donald Trump - POLITICO Magazine


Hell, he just got my vote next time he runs.

RainMaker 07-31-2017 07:32 PM

When you start firing close staff in embarrassing ways, they're going to talk. This is a doozy.

Trump dictated son’s misleading statement on meeting with Russian lawyer - The Washington Post

Toddzilla 07-31-2017 08:26 PM

What a CF. Scaramuicci blows in and forces Spicer and Preibus out, then gets bounced by Kelly. Seems Spicey and Reincey got put out to pasture for nothing...

Atocep 07-31-2017 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddzilla (Post 3168672)
What a CF. Scaramuicci blows in and forces Spicer and Preibus out, then gets bounced by Kelly. Seems Spicey and Reincey got put out to pasture for nothing...


The 4D chess explanation is that Scaramucci was brought in to force Preibus out because that's how it works in the business world and Trump is a businessman.

JonInMiddleGA 07-31-2017 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3168675)
The 4D chess explanation is that Scaramucci was brought in to force Preibus out


Which made sense, and worked ... but surely that isn't the only person that needed to be chased off, so I'm not getting chasing the chaser so quickly.

Maybe it's personalities though, maybe Kelly will rub the next one/batch more wrong than Mooch.

Ryche 07-31-2017 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3168675)
The 4D chess explanation is that Scaramucci was brought in to force Preibus out because that's how it works in the business world and Trump is a businessman.


Which would mean Mooch destroyed his life because Trump was too much of a puss to fire people on his own.

CrescentMoonie 07-31-2017 09:19 PM

Anthony Scaramucci is out, but the Mooch jokes are forever - Vox

Radii 07-31-2017 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3168675)
The 4D chess explanation is that Scaramucci was brought in to force Preibus out because that's how it works in the business world and Trump is a businessman.


And what's the explanation for Trump not just doing that himself?

digamma 07-31-2017 09:50 PM

The NYT folks keep hinting at a re-rise of Bannon, who may now be licking his lips, in forcing the Mooch ouster.

mckerney 07-31-2017 10:24 PM

Just a bad day all around for the Mooch.

Anthony Scaramucci erroneously listed as dead in the new Harvard Law alumni directory - The Washington Post

Edward64 07-31-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Edward64 (Post 3168629)
Spicer must be grinning from ear to ear.


Oh, and his estranged wife also ...

Atocep 08-01-2017 09:35 AM

I believe I half jokingly questioned whether or not Trump understood that he could be charged with obstruction even if a crime wasn't committed at some point in this thread and reports are saying no, he in fact doesn't understand that.

JPhillips 08-01-2017 10:10 AM

Today in Trump WTF:

A story that says Trump dictated Don Jr's initial meeting statement

and

A story that says Spicer met with the Seth Rich conspiracy guy before the story aired on Fox.

Easy Mac 08-01-2017 11:33 AM

And the white house worked with Fox news directly on it.

Easy Mac 08-01-2017 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Radii (Post 3168679)
And what's the explanation for Trump not just doing that himself?


He's never had to tell anyone theyre fired.

JPhillips 08-01-2017 01:58 PM

From Wired:

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ON MONDAY, WHITE House senior adviser Jared Kushner spoke to a group of congressional interns as part of an ongoing, off-the-record summer lecture series. During the question-and-answer portion of the event, Kushner may have inadvertently offered some insight into the negotiating tactics he is using in the Middle East.

Prior to Kushner's talk, Katie Patru, the deputy staff director for member services, outreach, and communications, told the assembled interns, "To record today’s session would be such a breach of trust, from my opinion. This town is full of leakers, and everyone knows who they are, and no one trusts them. In this business your reputation is everything. I’ve been on the Hill for 15 years. I’ve sat in countless meetings with members of congress where important decisions were being made. During all those years in all those meetings, I never once leaked to a reporter … If someone in your office has asked you to break our protocol and give you a recording so they can leak it, as a manager, that bothers me at my core."

WIRED has obtained a recording of Kushner's talk, which lasted for just under an hour in total.

albionmoonlight 08-01-2017 02:09 PM

I think that promoting General Kelly is a smart move by Trump.

albionmoonlight 08-01-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3168727)
From Wired:


:lol:

mckerney 08-01-2017 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3168706)
I believe I half jokingly questioned whether or not Trump understood that he could be charged with obstruction even if a crime wasn't committed at some point in this thread and reports are saying no, he in fact doesn't understand that.


Maybe his lawyer can inform him...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Washington Post
Trump, they say, is increasingly acting as his own lawyer, strategist and publicist, often disregarding the recommendations of the professionals he has hired.


...oh.

The good news from there is if he's working as his own publicist that could mean that we'll get John Barron as his next Communications Director.

Logan 08-01-2017 03:49 PM

Apologies if this Michael Lewis/Vanity Fair article was posted last week. I had it open on my work laptop and finally got around to reading just the first 20% or so of it. I think this came out among the transgender ban/HC failure/Mooch going crazy hoopla so may have overlooked it.

Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair

Easy Mac 08-01-2017 06:39 PM

Good God these two sentences are so condescendingly brilliant.


cuervo72 08-01-2017 08:41 PM

Thanks for the link, Logan.

Flasch186 08-01-2017 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3168676)
Which made sense, and worked ... but surely that isn't the only person that needed to be chased off, so I'm not getting chasing the chaser so quickly.

Maybe it's personalities though, maybe Kelly will rub the next one/batch more wrong than Mooch.


maybe youve just been wrong?

CarterNMA 08-01-2017 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3168738)
Apologies if this Michael Lewis/Vanity Fair article was posted last week. I had it open on my work laptop and finally got around to reading just the first 20% or so of it. I think this came out among the transgender ban/HC failure/Mooch going crazy hoopla so may have overlooked it.

Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair


Thanks, Logan. I shat my pants, barfed a little and now I can't sleep.

SackAttack 08-01-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 3168766)
maybe youve just been wrong?


There's that, but there's also the "Trump creates chaos to distract from other things" narrative.

How true? Who knows. OTOH, there was Senate testimony going on about how Russian intelligence uses kompromat during Mooch's brief tenure.

Which seems more likely? That he was used for 10 days to get rid of Spicer and Priebus, or that he was used as a circus act to distract from the hearings?

JonInMiddleGA 08-01-2017 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Flasch186 (Post 3168766)
maybe youve just been wrong?


Nah, cause too much of it has made sense to this point really. And they did shed themselves of Preibus so things fit pretty well right up to there.

There's been too much that made sense for it to be mere stopped clock exceptions.

Incidentally, I'm still stuck on how to set the over/under line for Kelly as CoS.
I'm leaning toward the high side and thinking 32 days.

Chief Rum 08-02-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy Mac (Post 3168752)
Good God these two sentences are so condescendingly brilliant.



You know, even if I agreed with the man's politics or thought he was brilliant, I don't honestly know how I could remain in the company of such a man for more than a few minutes. I mean, at some point, I am pretty sure I would tell him he needs to shut the f $#!@ up. Or I would physically attack him and get shot by the secret service.

SteveM58 08-02-2017 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SackAttack (Post 3168778)
There's that, but there's also the "Trump creates chaos to distract from other things" narrative.

How true? Who knows. OTOH, there was Senate testimony going on about how Russian intelligence uses kompromat during Mooch's brief tenure.

Which seems more likely? That he was used for 10 days to get rid of Spicer and Priebus, or that he was used as a circus act to distract from the hearings?


Or maybe Trump creates chaos....because Trump creates chaos?

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that Trump wasn't aware of Mooch's pre-election comments about him until after he was brought in. As in, maybe he had a vague idea but not exactly quotes or audio. I mean, it's plausible anyway.

Also regarding Russia and Don Jr, etc....seems to me that Trump is a good example of terrible ineptitude mixed with narcissism. He doesn't even think to ask if there are rules against something because he is convinced they don't apply to him anyway. Whereas your average scumbag politician at least tries to appear above board.

JPhillips 08-02-2017 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveM58 (Post 3168816)
Or maybe Trump creates chaos....because Trump creates chaos?

I wouldn't be shocked to hear that Trump wasn't aware of Mooch's pre-election comments about him until after he was brought in. As in, maybe he had a vague idea but not exactly quotes or audio. I mean, it's plausible anyway.

Also regarding Russia and Don Jr, etc....seems to me that Trump is a good example of terrible ineptitude mixed with narcissism. He doesn't even think to ask if there are rules against something because he is convinced they don't apply to him anyway. Whereas your average scumbag politician at least tries to appear above board.


This.

I think we have enough evidence to put to bed the notion that he's playing 11 dimensional chess. He's a toddler. It's as simple as that.

Flasch186 08-02-2017 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by JPhillips (Post 3168828)
This.

I think we have enough evidence to put to bed the notion that he's playing 11 dimensional chess. He's a toddler. It's as simple as that.


Bingo

JiminMGA is just overthinking it IMO

digamma 08-02-2017 09:17 AM

But that speech he gave in West Virginia.

Atocep 08-02-2017 09:18 AM

Boy Scouts dispute Trump claim that their leader called his speech 'the greatest' | TheHill

I like imaging the White House administration having an intern call Trump pretending to be the Head of Boy Scouts to tell him it was the greatest speech they ever heard.

Flasch186 08-02-2017 10:05 AM

Lies > Truths

QuikSand 08-02-2017 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 3168779)
Incidentally, I'm still stuck on how to set the over/under line for Kelly as CoS. I'm leaning toward the high side and thinking 32 days.


My finger in the breeze says this change is for real (whatever that even means in this context) and he'll be there forever... like several months, even.

bronconick 08-02-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Rum (Post 3168792)
You know, even if I agreed with the man's politics or thought he was brilliant, I don't honestly know how I could remain in the company of such a man for more than a few minutes. I mean, at some point, I am pretty sure I would tell him he needs to shut the f $#!@ up. Or I would physically attack him and get shot by the secret service.


Especially not while golfing.

Vince, Pt. II 08-02-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Logan (Post 3168738)
Apologies if this Michael Lewis/Vanity Fair article was posted last week. I had it open on my work laptop and finally got around to reading just the first 20% or so of it. I think this came out among the transgender ban/HC failure/Mooch going crazy hoopla so may have overlooked it.

Why the Scariest Nuclear Threat May Be Coming from Inside the White House | Vanity Fair


Great article, though it is completely one-sided. Interesting to read about my company in there - I did a little of the preliminary work on the Metcalf investigation, definitely some scary stuff. The precision and obvious intent behind it was slightly terrifying...the fact that we couldn't tie it to anything more than what was done even moreso.

BYU 14 08-02-2017 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atocep (Post 3168846)
Boy Scouts dispute Trump claim that their leader called his speech 'the greatest' | TheHill

I like imaging the White House administration having an intern call Trump pretending to be the Head of Boy Scouts to tell him it was the greatest speech they ever heard.


God I wish I was a WH intern right now!


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