What's the argument against PB?

After seeing the votes of Jackal and EF I've decided that all of Philadelphia is apparently part of the conspriacy!

I'm just catching up but should be around all evening as we've stopped in Franklin County, Indiana.

oh that's right - PB has been driving all day. no wonder he hasn't been around.

Question - is anybody out there a programmer?

You realize I don't live in Philly, right? And do you want for me to re-vote you? :)

I don't even know how the votes on him started. I'm voting him simply becuase he was "the other viable candidate". I'm fine with a new candidate being introduced. Perhaps one of the quiet folks, scare up some more participation.

Wow, just saw the moves on me. I'm going to move to one of the other two main candidates (saw moves off of ntn, did I miss a reason?). I'm not conspriacy and I threw my joke out more as a move not to miss putting in a vote in case something happened. Alright,

unvote my friend The Jackal

In case the question was hidden in my above post,

Why did people move off of ntn? Trying to figure out where to throw my self-defense vote.

I think it just started to look like a runaway, and he also came and posted, where the main reason for votes had been him being quiet.

So we keep piling on people that aren't here. I don't particularly understand what ntn did as being a good reason to take the foot off his chest, given the reasons people gave. Three day 1 posts does not change future actions so much. I refrained from doing this before, but that's just too much - let's be realistic.

UNVOTE THE JACKAL
VOTE NTNDEACON

Also, DT unvoted ntn after it seemed like a runaway and ntn came and posted. So the combination.

It certainly worked for ntn, no? The votes on PB started when DT requested people look to voting ntn, PB, or BrianD instead of The Jackal because ntn had been quiet and because he didn't have a read on PB / BrianD.

PB, people moved off ntn because he started participating more, which was the strike people were using to vote him initially.

This'll teach me for lynching quiet people on day 1's since today and tomorrow I am one of them. But, in self-defense, I'll

vote ntn

Fixed my above post. Off to grab a bite to eat and maybe hit the pool. Be back in an hour or so.

okay i'm heading out in a minute here. I've sent off a couple PM's...I have a couple more I wanted to give more thought to to respond to when I get home. I should be around from between 7:30-8pm EST to deadline.

I'll be gone for about an hour, but will be back. Still undecided on where to put my vote.

Heads up, going to dinner around 6 and then seeing public enemies at 740, so I'll be here until dinner and then whenever I get back from the movie.

As of Post 520

7 - ntndeacon: JAG (332, 8:31 AM), The Jackal (374, 10:26 AM), KWhit (390, 10:45 AM), kingfc22 (425, 12:22 PM), Thomkal (441, 1:42 PM), Tyrith (514, 3:44 PM), PurdueBrad (517, 3:47 PM)
6 - PurdueBrad: EagleFan (334, 8:59 AM), Telle (411, 11:51 AM), BrianD (443, 1:43 PM), Autumn (459, 2:08 PM), ISiddiqui (471, 2:24 PM), saldana (501, 3:22 PM)
2 - KWhit: ntndeacon (475, 2:30 PM), nfg22 (482, 2:39 PM)
1 - The Jackal: claphamsa (453, 1:55 PM)
1 - BrianD: Pass (330, 8:23 AM)

Yet to vote: Danny, Schmidty, Chief Rum, henry296, DaddyTorgo, AlanT, path12

By %:

PurdueBrad: 29%
ntndeacon: 25%
The Jackal: 8%
KWhit: 8%
BrianD: 4%


I'm out for a while.

Jackal % should be 4, not 8.

my question...we have alot of inactivity as shown by the no votes. I dont remember some of those peopleposting much. Why? Also we need votes from everyone. My suspicion is starting to be cast at Schmidty, CR, and Henry...

I agree there's a lot of quietness so far. I'm fine going after quiet people as it usually gets them out of the woodwork. I don't expect everyone to have voted at this point though.

I'm sure some of these poeple posted schedules and excuses. I should start noting those things so we don't chase someone with a good reason to be quiet.

Schmidty has popped in a few times and said this is the only day he'd be inactive. I can't speak to the other two aside from knowing that CR can only post at certain times of day (and I believe that's usually in the morning and late at night, EST at least). And henry hasn't been around in a while, so I don't know what his deal is.

I certainly understand people have reasons. To be fair, the next day starts in four hours...So they still have four hours to post. I just wanted to note that I had suspicion on a few.

So far I think Poli has played masterfully. I really would have never guessed his role.

Wow. I have a lot of catching up to do.

There really is no next day, though. Everyone's abilities are on their own timers. This game can't be broken up into time chunks in advance, only retroactively.

Here's what I have so far:

Eaglefan 1 – BrianD (292)
Path 1 – nfg22 (305)
Jackal 1 – PB (328)
BrianD 1 – Pass (330)
Ntn 1 – Jag (332)
PB 1 – Eaglefan (334)
Jackal 2 – Saldana (343)
Path 2 – Tyrith (347)
UNVOTE Eaglefan 0 – BrianD (358)
Ntn 2 – Path (360)
PB 2 – Jackal (366)
Jackal 3 – Brian D (370)
Ntn 3 – Daddy Torgo (371)
UNVOTE PB 1 – Jackal (374)
Ntn 4 – Jackal (374)
UNVOTE Path 1 – Tyrith (388)
Jackal 4 – Tyrith (388)
Ntn 5 – Alan (389)
Ntn 6 – Kwhit (390)
Jackal 5 – Telle (391)
UNVOTE Jackal 4 – Telle (411)
PB 2 – Telle (411)
Ntn 7 – Kingfc (425)
Jackal 5 – Ntn (431)
UNVOTE path 0 – nfg22 (439)
Ntn 8 – nfg22 (439)
Ntn 9 – Thomkal (441)
UNVOTE Jackal 4 – BrianD (443)
PB 3 – BrianD (443)
Jackal 5 – claphamsa (453)
PB 4 – Autumn (459)
UNVOTE ntn 8 – Daddy Torgo (463)
PB 5 – Isiddiqui (471)
UNVOTE ntn 7 – Alan (474)
UNVOTE Jackal 4 – ntn (475)
Kwhit 1 – ntn (475)
UNVOTE ntn 6 – nfg22 (482)
Kwhit 2 – nfg22 (482)
UNVOTE ntn 5 – path (496)
UNVOTE Jackal 3 – saldana (501)
PB 6 – saldana (501)
UNVOTE Jackal 2 – PB (511)
UNVOTE Jackal 1 – Tyrith (514)
Ntn 6 – Tyrith (514)
Ntn 7 – PB 517)

I would prefer not to die but I'm also not of supreme value to the village so it's not a big loss. I know that isn't a great defense but I guess it doesn't crush us to kill me off.

BUMPING THIS IMPORTANT QUESTION

So...is there any benefit to getting a lynch early? Not that I'm saying we should in this case, I'm just wondering if we really care about it. IMO, it seems like it will only come up in a case where we would want to vote nightfall anyway.

Ok. Done reading.

As usual on Day 1, there's no good reason to vote for anyone, other than to get discussion going and to make sure there isn't a no-vote; therefore, I'm going to vote for a leading candidate to move things forward. Absolutely no real reason for this vote, although he came on defending himself aggrsively, which I don't remember before. Of course, most people including me, would be aggressively defending themselves too.

Vote ntndeacon

Quick question: Do we only get 4 total PMs, or does it ever refresh? I'm assuming it's 4 total, but I wanted to make sure.

4 per 24 hours is my understanding. So after you send all four, I assume you can send your next one 24 hours after your first one..

Or maybe it is every 24 hours you get all 4 back?

I think the former though

I think we get 4 per day but I'm not 100% on that.

4 per day.

ok - no one's coming forward to answer my question...

4 per 24 hour period. So if you sent your messages at 1 PM 3 PM 4 PM and 11 AM the next day you would get another message 24 hours after your first PM.

It's 4 within any 24 hour period. There are no predetermined points where your abilities refresh, it's all from a point in time when you use them.

ok...i'm seriously pondering going in a completely different direction with my vote...

I've got to head out and won't be back for awhile. I don't know the percentages offhand but in the spirit of keeping it close:

VOTE PURDUE BRAD

This is from henry on page 6 for what it's worth.

very very interesting

okay - based on that i'm not voting henry. that's cool.

I'm off and won't be back for a few hours.

I'll update my vote history when I return.

I don't envy him trying to come in and figure out what's going on in only half an hour. Today might not be so bad, but I have a feeling it won't be so easy as we get further into the game.

interesting - i have 2 people claiming functionally similar roles (slightly different triggers).

also have one person claiming a role looking for programmers (hence my question) and yet i have not heard (via PM) of any other programmers in the game...

I was under the impression that it is not a case of him having to catch up in half an hour. I thought with no deadline, it was a rolling clock right?

At least that was my assumption. I'm trying to catch up on stuff I skimmed through earlier today and didn't feel any pressure to try to hurry at least?

Oh heh.. I thought you meant a real programmer, as if you had a computer application problem. Well I'm not a programmer here either.