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Buccaneer 02-25-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1668229)
To be fair, the Musketeers Saga was in part a defensive ploy, because I knew if I left it hanging there, somebody was likely to grab The Count of Monte Cristo for their fiction choice, which would've gotten a lot of voter interest.


Nearly every man, woman and child have heard of the 3 Musketeers (from the many cartoons and movies made). It is far superior pick than Monte Cristo which most don't know what it is about.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:08 PM

I think that my picks will not truly shine unless you compare them to the other books in each category. So far, I think I have the best poem (certainly top 2 or 3), the best sports book, and one of the top 3 series with Narnia. The only potential miss that I could see getting dinged for with the voters is Catch-22, but out of what has been selected for fiction, I'll put it up against any of them.

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:10 PM

It's after 6 EST. Where's DT with his pick? :p

Eaglesfan27 02-25-2008 05:10 PM

I've never payed very close attention to other drafts. How does one become a voter at the end? Is it just open to all board members?

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:11 PM

Just vote.

Vince 02-25-2008 05:12 PM

Maple Leafs is just blowing me away with every pick. How Shakespeare can't be considered a Home Run is a mystery to me.

My top four:

1. Maple Leafs
2. larrymcg421
3. Warhammer
4. cartman

I have just about everyone clustered right behind these guys. Second place is completely wide open at this point, methinks, but Maple Leafs has a clear lead at the moment.

Buccaneer 02-25-2008 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1668236)
I think that my picks will not truly shine unless you compare them to the other books in each category. So far, I think I have the best poem (certainly top 2 or 3), the best sports book, and one of the top 3 series with Narnia. The only potential miss that I could see getting dinged for with the voters is Catch-22, but out of what has been selected for fiction, I'll put it up against any of them.


I agree, I will grade the picks on a curve. That's what I was saying about the Series in regards to NoMyths. Didn't really think about that at first but it makes the most sense.

Vince 02-25-2008 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1668232)
Nearly every man, woman and child have heard of the 3 Musketeers (from the many cartoons and movies made). It is far superior pick than Monte Cristo which most don't know what it is about.


I think that the 3 Musketeers is [Izulde's] 2nd best pick so far, behind The Art of War. I also think that the Musketeers Saga is a far superior choice to the Count of Monte Cristo, regardless of which is actually a superior piece of literature.

Buccaneer 02-25-2008 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince (Post 1668244)
I think that the 3 Musketeers is [Izulde's] 2nd best pick so far, behind The Art of War. I also think that the Musketeers Saga is a far superior choice to the Count of Monte Cristo, regardless of which is actually a superior piece of literature.


And that's the key. It's not about superior literature for most of the categories and I think Izulde accidently stumbled into a nice pick there. Ball Four is not good literature, but man, if you are over the age of 30, you have heard of it (if that's a good example).

MrDNA 02-25-2008 05:24 PM

Looking back at my remarks, I think I meant Shakespeare in Fiction didn't seem like a homerun to me. As in, compared to other possible fiction choices - now as poetry... perhaps better. If only there was a drama section - Waiting for Godot, Death of a Salesman, Glass Menagerie... I'm pretty far off topic now. Meh.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Buccaneer (Post 1668246)
Ball Four is not good literature, but man, if you are over the age of 30, you have heard of it (if that's a good example).


Exactly. Ball Four isn't great literature, but it had a HUGE impact in the way sports are covered, not only from a literary point of view, but a journalistic one as well. So even greater works of literature that came after still owe a huge debt of gratitude to that book.

sabotai 02-25-2008 05:26 PM

Uh Oh, we have a "that guy" now.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 1668249)
If only there was a drama section


Yeah, I wish there was a wild card, miscellaneous, or some other catch all category.

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:28 PM

I hate everyone that doesn't respect my picks :-P

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:29 PM

I just need to check that my pick hasn't been taken by someone...one sec

Eaglesfan27 02-25-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1668253)
I hate everyone that doesn't respect my picks :-P


I liked your 3rd round pick and thought it was very solid.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:29 PM

Get on with it!

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:30 PM

chief rum is a bastard and took my pick for poetry. Re-assessing

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:35 PM

clarification - single poem, or book of poetry?

NoMyths 02-25-2008 05:36 PM

Single poem.

Buccaneer 02-25-2008 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Eaglesfan27 (Post 1668255)
I liked your 3rd round pick and thought it was very solid.


+1

This would have been a homerun for short stories as well. Just about everyone have heard of Little Red Riding Hood, Snow White, Cinderella or Hansel/Gretel.

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:37 PM

screwit i'm picking. Everyone has me losing anyways. I'm picking with it being a book of poetry, versus the single-poem approach some others have seemed to use. So reward/penalize me for that

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem: 5.5 Leaves of Grass, Walt Whitman
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction: 4.6 FARENHEIT 451, RAY BRADBURY
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) 1.5 The Foundation Series, Isaac Asimov
6. Sport Related
7. Children's 3.5 Children's and Household Tales (1857 - 211 stories) by The Brothers Grimm
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography 2.6 Autobiographical Notes, Albert Einstein
10. History

sabotai 02-25-2008 05:37 PM

My top 3 looks like this so far:

1) Maple Leafs
2) Cartman
3) larrymcg421

Maple Leafs has a pretty decent lead, but it's still early and a few of the catagories are pretty vacant (which is helping ML a lot at this point). Once those catagories start filling up, he may slide down my leaderboard. I still have it pretty close among everyone else.

Buccaneer 02-25-2008 05:39 PM

You guys are heavily penalizing Axxon for his Non-Fiction (King) pick?

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:40 PM

gotta show some love for Whitman. America's first real great homegrown poet.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:41 PM

I really don't get how some people are going with their votes right now. Taking myself out of the equation, I still don't understand how people are voting.

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1668269)
gotta show some love for Whitman. America's first real great homegrown poet.


You do realize you could've stayed with a single poem as the category dictates and still done well with Whitman, yes?

sabotai 02-25-2008 05:42 PM

You'd think the word "Poem" would be self-explanatory, but I guess not. :D

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1668271)
You do realize you could've stayed with a single poem as the category dictates and still done well with Whitman, yes?


does the category dictate single poem??

in that case it'd be When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom'd, by Walt Whitman

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:44 PM

if you want to make that my official pick (the poem) that's fine. I just went with the whole work because there's a lot more in there that's solid too. idk

NoMyths 02-25-2008 05:45 PM

O.O

Not, perhaps, the most solid strike on a second attempt.

MrDNA 02-25-2008 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1668266)
screwit i'm picking. Everyone has me losing anyways. I'm picking with it being a book of poetry, versus the single-poem approach some others have seemed to use. So reward/penalize me for that

1. Fiction
2. Single Short Story
3. Poem: 5.5 Leaves of Grass, Walt Whitman
4. Fantasy/Science Fiction: 4.6 FARENHEIT 451, RAY BRADBURY
5. Series (A set of books continuing the same story and intended to be read sequentially) 1.5 The Foundation Series, Isaac Asimov
6. Sport Related
7. Children's 3.5 Children's and Household Tales (1857 - 211 stories) by The Brothers Grimm
8. Non-Fiction
9. Biography/Autobiography 2.6 Autobiographical Notes, Albert Einstein
10. History


Whitman considered Leaves of Grass one coherent work, FWIW. Also, this would've been my poetry pick. DT shoots up my chart with his last two picks (as in, he might now be ON my chart :p )

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:46 PM

If NoMyths takes my pick, I'm gonna be ticked... This pick will seal up the last of my questionable categories.

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths (Post 1668275)
O.O

Not, perhaps, the most solid strike on a second attempt.


"

but at least it matches the category now. :D

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths (Post 1668275)
O.O

Not, perhaps, the most solid strike on a second attempt.


so sayeth you...and you would have picked which?

MrDNA 02-25-2008 05:46 PM

...but if I had to pick one section of the work, it would've been his moving elegy of Lincoln. :)

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 1668276)
Whitman considered Leaves of Grass one coherent work, FWIW. Also, this would've been my poetry pick. DT shoots up my chart with his last two picks (as in, he might now be ON my chart :p )


that's what I was always taught too.

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1668277)
If NoMyths takes my pick, I'm gonna be ticked... This pick will seal up the last of my questionable categories.


If either of you take either of the picks I have planned for 5.9 and 6.2 I'm gonna be annoyed. :D

NoMyths 02-25-2008 05:48 PM

DT: I'd have taken "Song of Myself".

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:49 PM

had other stuff I was considering, but when it came down to it I just said "go with whitman" idk why exactly

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths (Post 1668283)
DT: I'd have taken "Song of Myself".


Ditto, if I was picking Walt Whitman.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1668282)
If either of you take either of the picks I have planned for 5.9 and 6.2 I'm gonna be annoyed. :D


There is a chance I might, since both of my picks are in categories I don't think you've picked anything from.

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths (Post 1668283)
DT: I'd have taken "Song of Myself".


but "Lilacs" is a much more...known poem. And idk...I'm still sticking with the "whole book as one coherent work" theory. Same thing with Brothers Grimm. I provide the best value-for-money. Anyone else can pick Frost or Coleridge or whatever, but those guys can't put together an entire book the caliber of "Leaves of Grass."

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1668288)
but "Lilacs" is a much more...known poem. And idk...I'm still sticking with the "whole book as one coherent work" theory. Same thing with Brothers Grimm. I provide the best value-for-money. Anyone else can pick Frost or Coleridge or whatever, but those guys can't put together an entire book the caliber of "Leaves of Grass."


Lilacs a much more-known poem?

:eek:

No way.

NoMyths 02-25-2008 05:53 PM

Hoisting you by your own petard: and Leaves of Grass isn't an entire book on the caliber of The Divine Comedy. ;)

Man I'm having a tough time choosing between two options.

Warhammer 02-25-2008 05:53 PM

NoMyths is up, right?

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Izulde (Post 1668289)
Lilacs a much more-known poem?

:eek:

No way.


among lay-people...sure. I'd venture to say so. Or maybe that's just my circle of people (the history-folk)...idk. Whatever. 95% of those who are offering their judgements have me nowhere near winning, so i'm not too concerned about the relative merits of one Whitman poem vs. another

DaddyTorgo 02-25-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths (Post 1668290)
Hoisting you by your own petard: and Leaves of Grass isn't an entire book on the caliber of The Divine Comedy. ;)

Man I'm having a tough time choosing between two options.


true. That can stand up to this. As can shakespeare.

Buccaneer 02-25-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by NoMyths (Post 1668290)
Hoisting you by your own petard: and Leaves of Grass isn't an entire book on the caliber of The Divine Comedy. ;)

Man I'm having a tough time choosing between two options.


What is a petard and why would someone be hoisted by it?

Izulde 02-25-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhammer (Post 1668291)
NoMyths is up, right?


Yep.


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