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RendeR 06-24-2008 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1759779)
Disregarding the timing aspect of this for a moment... Do you really think that Poli would make Lathum the seer?




Irrelevent really. At that time and point I'd have given that reveal at least a day to resolve itself and changed my vote.

KWhit 06-24-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 1759801)
If Lathum is a wolf, he is a brutal wolf and will take someone with him.


I'd be fine with that, even if it were me.

RendeR 06-24-2008 04:35 PM

Holy shit i went over 5k...like a 49posts ago!!!! Go me =)

RendeR 06-24-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1759807)
I'd be fine with that, even if it were me.



I don't think anyone else need worry about who lathum would take if he were the Brutal wolf ;)


*chuckles*

Danny 06-24-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 1759805)
Also, how much did relationships factor into the draft selection. Husbands/Wives, BFFs, etc.?


I imagine it probably would have. I'd be surprised if someone would draft a husband/wife or BFF as wolves together. Then again, maybe Hoops was thinking that same way.

KWhit 06-24-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1759806)
Irrelevent really. At that time and point I'd have given that reveal at least a day to resolve itself and changed my vote.


Fair enough I suppose, but I really don't think Poli makes Lathum the seer.

Schmidty 06-24-2008 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1759809)
Holy shit i went over 5k...like a 49posts ago!!!! Go me =)


I'm being taunted now. ;)

LoneStarGirl 06-24-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 1759800)
There is a theory going around that lathum was forced into being a wolf. Since the last pick went to the wolves, Poli could have intentionally left lathum on the board.

In order for you to buy into this, you would have to think that Poli would leave a player of Lathum's caliber for that long. It would be a brilliant move if executed correctly, but I have my doubts.


I am sorry... I have played with Ardent in a lot of games (back in the day, granted) and I dont think he is that smart. No way he left Lathum there through out the whole process.

Schmidty 06-24-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl (Post 1759803)
I love it when you quote yourself


I miss doing that. People starting killing me for it, even though it was my trademark. And swearing in WW.

Fucking edit this BK!!!!!

Lathum 06-24-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1759804)

I'm not saying that Lathum is definitely a wolf. I'm not saying there's a 75% chance he's a wolf. But there's definitely a better chance than anyone else we can pick on day one.

.


let the slight backtracking begin

LoneStarGirl 06-24-2008 04:38 PM

I work until 3 Central time tomorrow with no computer access so I am going to have to vote tonight.. I am going to wait till after dinner to see if something comes up, hopefully a number 2 to race against Lathum because I will not be voting for him.

RendeR 06-24-2008 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1759790)
this makes no sense to me.

If you believe me at 8:00AM tomorrow morning why wouldn't you believe me now?



Its all about the timing. revealing now doesn't make any sense, good bad or otherwise, its a mistake, a bad play. You're a damned fine WW player, Wolf or Villager, so you already know why I would believe you then and not now.

KWhit 06-24-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1759810)
I don't think anyone else need worry about who lathum would take if he were the Brutal wolf ;)


*chuckles*


Yeah, good point.

Actually, it's great to get the brutal out of the way early before we have any reveals. Since a brutal kill is never subject to a bodyguard block, it's the perfect way to off a revealed seer.

SnDvls 06-24-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenEagle (Post 1759736)
Could it be a ploy by the wolves to create a friendly atmosphere and avoid accusation when their names are brought up?


or just a way to get good information lost in all the non-WW banter too

RendeR 06-24-2008 04:41 PM

You people need to remember one important factor.


Hoopsguy IS the antichrist of WW, he knows all and controls all, if you think of an angle, he's already countered it. if you have a concrete alibi he's already cracked it.

All hail the infernal one, All HAIL HOOPS!

:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

Lathum 06-24-2008 04:41 PM

I hate to dissapoint but I'm not the brutal wolf or any other wolf.

As for the timing of my reveal I think it would have been a challange to swing 8-10 votes tomorrow and I have a dentist apointment and won't be around much.

KWhit 06-24-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1759818)
let the slight backtracking begin


No backtracking at all. But for the people who are saying to themselves that my theory is a stretch, I'm just pointing out to them that even if it is a stretch and I'm giving poli too much credit, it's still a hell of a lot more likely than just a typical shot in the dark vote for player x like most day ones are.

KWhit 06-24-2008 04:47 PM

And I guess you guys have scared me away from my theory a bit by saying how out there it is. It seems like a total obvious play to me. One I would have done in poli's shoes immediately. I think it's a good strategy and one I figured a lot of people here would think of.

Maybe I'm just a lot smarter than I give myself credit for.


:)

oliegirl 06-24-2008 04:48 PM

Lathum and Render...


KWhit 06-24-2008 04:49 PM

Out for a while guys and gals, but should be able to check back in later tonight.

RendeR 06-24-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl (Post 1759837)
Lathum and Render...




hey, jsut because two guys like to dance together.....damn sexist women....

oliegirl 06-24-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RendeR (Post 1759843)
hey, jsut because two guys like to dance together.....damn sexist women....


I could have made it this...


hoopsguy 06-24-2008 05:09 PM

Olie delivering the thread-killer.

Barkeep49 06-24-2008 05:12 PM

For the record, I'm not moving my vote. This could be a fake reveal. Or he could be the fake seer. Or he could be the real seer. I don't see any of those possibilities being greater than the other so it's 2/3 eh or good, 1/3 uh oh.

RendeR 06-24-2008 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl (Post 1759846)
I could have made it this...




you leave Telle and I out of this =):banana::banana::banana:

Lathum 06-24-2008 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1759854)
For the record, I'm not moving my vote. This could be a fake reveal. Or he could be the fake seer. Or he could be the real seer. I don't see any of those possibilities being greater than the other so it's 2/3 eh or good, 1/3 uh oh.


I find it interesting that you think killing a villager is a good outcome

claphamsa 06-24-2008 05:28 PM

unvote shmitdy
vote kwhitt

Barkeep49 06-24-2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1759856)
I find it interesting that you think killing a villager is a good outcome

Killing the fake seer is a neutral outcome since there's no chance for disinformation.

oliegirl 06-24-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1759859)
unvote shmitdy
vote kwhitt


Reason?

claphamsa 06-24-2008 05:55 PM

kwhitts play bothers me. and I would like to see a second candidate emerge.
he does seem to be backtrackign on lathum, and i worry NO ONE is evern considering that lathum is telling the truth. I dont belive he is, but....... we have to at least consider he is, and if its 20-1 on say one all we have is ketchcup porn and no one wants that!

Schmidty 06-24-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl (Post 1759865)
Reason?


Dude. I am totally disassociating myself with this vote change.

If anyone (Alan, hoops, blah, blah, blah, blah....) looks at this at day 16 or whatever, I have nothing to do with it. I would rather have more votes. I mean, I don't want to be lynched, regardless of my post and deadline rants, but I'd rather have a few day 1 votes so that I blend in.

oliegirl 06-24-2008 06:04 PM

I'm at a loss right now...the "usual suspects" are of course on my list of possible votes...but I'm also thinking that Mrs Schmidty might be someone to look at - she made a very good impression in her first game, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that Hoops decided to make her a wolf and see what happens. I'm also looking at Clap, he's one that usually stays fairly UTR and isn't someone I automatically go to as a wolf suspect...

claphamsa 06-24-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliegirl (Post 1759874)
I'm at a loss right now...the "usual suspects" are of course on my list of possible votes...but I'm also thinking that Mrs Schmidty might be someone to look at - she made a very good impression in her first game, so it's not out of the realm of possibility that Hoops decided to make her a wolf and see what happens. I'm also looking at Clap, he's one that usually stays fairly UTR and isn't someone I automatically go to as a wolf suspect...

''serioulsy? I have never ever EVER been UTR, hell this is my first try (not doing so hot :( )

Barkeep49 06-24-2008 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1759868)
kwhitts play bothers me. and I would like to see a second candidate emerge.
he does seem to be backtrackign on lathum, and i worry NO ONE is evern considering that lathum is telling the truth. I dont belive he is, but....... we have to at least consider he is, and if its 20-1 on say one all we have is ketchcup porn and no one wants that!

I'm considering the fact that he's telling the truth. I put it at 50/50. Still not the worst thing in the world though as even if he's telling the truth he still might be the fake seer.

claphamsa 06-24-2008 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1759879)
I'm considering the fact that he's telling the truth. I put it at 50/50. Still not the worst thing in the world though as even if he's telling the truth he still might be the fake seer.


fair enogh, but a second candidate will give us more info for day 2-3-4-5

Lathum 06-24-2008 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1759863)
Killing the fake seer is a neutral outcome since there's no chance for disinformation.


again, I fd it odd that you think killing a villager is nuetral outcome.

generaly killing a villager is a bad thing.

EagleFan 06-24-2008 06:42 PM

Damn, there's going to be 20 pages by tomorrow.

So far we've had a cock fight between Lathum and RendeR, discussions of post counts, the newly coined olierage and "last minute" reveal with 20 plus hours left before the deadline?

Just checking back in and trying to catch up but will have to go get some sleep soon. I'll try to catch up in my free time over night but I will not be available for the deadline after all, forgot that I have a dentist appointment at that time tomorrow.

Still keeping my vote as-is for now and probably for the rest of the day as I don't know if a real reason for a change so it's a crap shoot either way.

LoneStarGirl 06-24-2008 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telle (Post 1759552)
Vote count as of 394:

4 - Lathum - DaddyTorgo (250), KWhit (278), Barkeep (283), RendeR (294)
1 - Mrs. Schmidty - EagleFan (362)
1 - OlieGirl - Passacaglia (270)
1 - Schmidty - claphasma (291)
1 - saldana - Alan T (326)
1 - DaddyTorgo - Lathum (339)
1 - EagleFan - Schmidty (394)




Since I am not going to be here tomorrow until after the deadline I need to go ahead and vote tonight. and I thought to myself, if I was hoops, who would i pick? Going down the list I said I would pick Mrs. Schmidty, because well, you always need one woman, she is new so nobody really has a read on her, she rocked her first game, and nobody is going to vote off Schmidty's wife cuz that would piss him off and we wouldn't like Schmidty when he's angry.

Second I would pick Daddy Torgo. I have played three or four games with him as a wolf and he is has always been terrific. Between him and Chief I would put them as two of the best wolves, because they are generally in the middle of the post counts, not Alant number of posts, but not UTR either. Both of them are honest to goodness solid players, and I would have picked one of them.

Third I would have picked SnDVLs, I dont know if he has played lately or not, but from what I remember he was a good player. And reading some of the comments already in this thread y'all remember him being good as well. And since he hasn't played in awhile Hoops might have taken that into consideration and thought we would let him slide for awhile without putting him on the chopping block.

Last is Kwhit... in all the games I have played with him, he has pissed me off at least once in each. He is usually pushy but right on the money with his assessments of players. And I think he is one of the more talkative players so Hoops might have made him a brutal wolf knowing he would get kicked off before the rest of his clan.


Those would be my five wolves... with consideration saldana and barkeep. I would have only picked one girl, since to be honest, we have to work twice as hard and have twice the posts to get any credit on werewolf. :)

With that in mind I looked at the current vote count, knowing that I would not vote for lathum, and decided to vote between Mrs. Schmidty and DaddyTorgo... I think there will be more of a chance to get more votes on DT than Mrs. so.

vote daddy torgo

LoneStarGirl 06-24-2008 07:16 PM

Wow longest post ever for me.

Mrs. Schmidty 06-24-2008 07:20 PM

Just got home and have 7 pages to catch up on, 7!!

Lathum 06-24-2008 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoneStarGirl (Post 1759902)
Wow longest post ever for me.


very nice analysis!

Barkeep49 06-24-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1759890)
again, I fd it odd that you think killing a villager is nuetral outcome.

generaly killing a villager is a bad thing.

Killing a villager who is going to confuse our ability to form a COT is absolutely a positive.

Lathum 06-24-2008 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barkeep49 (Post 1759906)
Killing a villager who is going to confuse our ability to form a COT is absolutely a positive.


i hope they take a good, long look at you tomorrow

Alan T 06-24-2008 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1759908)
i hope they take a good, long look at you tomorrow


For whatever it's worth I originally had a bad feeling about Barkeep until Cronin clarified some posts earlier... while I originally had a good feeling about you until your later posts. :)

Lathum 06-24-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1759911)
For whatever it's worth I originally had a bad feeling about Barkeep until Cronin clarified some posts earlier... while I originally had a good feeling about you until your later posts. :)


well you need to stick to your original feelings then

Barkeep49 06-24-2008 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lathum (Post 1759908)
i hope they take a good, long look at you tomorrow

That'd be fine with me. Who doesn't enjoy seeing a smiley face all day long?


Mrs. Schmidty 06-24-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1759125)
Vote Mrs. Schmidty


I feel the love there Kwhit and thanks a lot for making me a possible target now you turkey. How does that work? Is it a vote anytime before deadline, or just someone's final vote?

KWhit 06-24-2008 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 1759859)
unvote shmitdy
vote kwhitt


Worst vote ever.

And:

Worst spelling ever.

Lathum 06-24-2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 1759922)
Worst spelling ever.


i resent that

claphamsa 06-24-2008 07:46 PM

SPELLING BEE!!!!


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