I do care about some things, but not whij one of you get voted out. But I was bored

Oh I will take bribes for my vote by the way. You'd really think the houses would be doing more to garner support for the neutrals

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You're free to ask. I think those of us in the houses have our allotment of ravens accounted for every day. There's not one left to ask a dwarf if there's some way he can help us. You'd have to actually tell us something.

Tell me in here, but the best way is to send me money

For what? A half a vote?

Very well - the first faction to guarantee me 2,000 gold today can direct my vote to a candidate of their choosing this evening.

No guarantees that the price tag will remain the same in future days, but as a "neutral for a day" I'll make that offer to the would-be lords of our land.

Half?

Or more maybe send me some money to control my vote for two days, I'm willing to negotiate. Getting a leg up in the other houses is pretty important. That said, you seem to not care about my support and are insulting so until bribed otherwise yiur house has my vote

You realize your vote only counts as one half a vote, right Tyrion, like all hte neutral characters? I'm not being glib.

I'm pretty upset at all of you. Varys I will likely be leaning your route if it transpires.

I will send you 2,000 gold to vote with me, Tywin.

What?

Clearly Ser Axell Florent is no enemy of the realm. Brienne I have no problem with, but I cannot vote for my brother, whose betrayals sting deeply. If I can hurt him by stripping away his bannermen I shall.

I think Selmy is saying he's going to become a eunuch.

If he does, then there goes his hopes of "bedding Cersei."

If it is information you seek, asking the Imp would not be the best of ideas. Now hiring some little birds to help you find what you want to know...one might find that to be much more prudent.

What betrayal is that?

Perhaps the two times you have voted to make my bannermen enemies of the realm, brother? Not the best sign of familial love and support.

I didn't know about the half of a vote thing. Well my vote is still up for grabs t the highest bidder, how about send me 1000 a day for my vote.

How many of those votes are there now brother? And who has been sending ravens and/or envoys to whom? I see lots of demands from you and not a lot else.

You are either going to decide to trust me or no. I would see that vote revoked before you expect me to take yet another step.

I expect that you will honor your word. As the first to agree to the terms, let me know where I should cast the vote. I expect to be around up until the deadline.

Should I trust Robb Stark, who has never voted against me, or you who have voted against me twice? I'd have to be quite a gambler to choose you, Renly, and you know I'm not a gambler. I don't think asking you not to vote against my people is asking too much. You had a choice between voting Stark or Baratheon and you voted Baratheon, simple as that. No one who I could trust to be at my side would have done that.

So no, I will not revoke my vote. I can't think of a single reason why I should. can you? Because you unvoted? A trustworthy brother never would have made the vote to begin with.

Please vote for Brienne of Tarth.

Upset at me?

Why?

Might I suggest leaving the little birds out of it altogether and coming to the Master of Whispers?

I have all sorts of information - and I do not ask for gold, or for lands & titles as some of my fellows do. My loyalty is not for sale and subject to the whims of coin purses.

My god Renly, are you still pathetic enough to be tiptoeing around your brother in the hope that he doesn't decide to make you the second house out of the game. "I'm sowwy Stannis". Pretty sad really. No wonder nobody ever thought you had a chance to be king.

vote Ser Axell Florent

Greyjoy (Lathum) votes for Brienne of Tarth (Clap)
Karstark (MrBug) votes for Brienne of Tarth (Clap)
Bolton (JAG) votes for Brienne of Tarth (Clap)

yet you are siding with him. A strange choice. Would you like to join the men, or stick with the Waffling King?

My regards to Lord Joffrey. Your raven flew true and reached me a short while ago M'Lord.

You have chosen, brother.

SER LORAS (MURRA5Y) VOTES SER AXELL FLORENT (CLAP)
SER PENROSE (DARTH) VOTES SER AXELL FLORENT (CLAP)
BRIENNE OF TARTH (FONT) VOTES SER AXELL FLORENT (CLAP)
KING RENLY BARATHEON (ME) VOTES SER AXELL FLORENT (CLAP)

Er, whoops.

Unvote All, Because I Named Brienne/Clap, not Brienne/Font


Vote Brienne (Font)
Greyjoy (Lathum) votes for Brienne of Tarth (Font)
Karstark (MrBug) votes for Brienne of Tarth (Font)
Bolton (JAG) votes for Brienne of Tarth (Font)

It seems to make little difference from my perspective. If I vote with you will you be my friend? Maybe we can have an ale and talk about how it was all one big misunderstanding? I didn't think so.

Regardless, Renly is weak and it costs him one of his bannermen. Just like he chose a junior partnership and a place as the third house over the possibility of a strong alliance.

And you're going to be friends with Renly? You think he has your back?

VOTE SER AXELL FLORENT (CLAP)

Stannis, I have already explained my position to you. Do this, and I promise I will go out with a bang.

This public bickering is really quite entertaining, I must say.

I apologize, Brienne. I wish you no ill will. But by the time you explained your situation I did not dare choose another of Renly's followers, given the closeness of the vote.

Wait, you're voting for one of Stannis's bannermen and saying that it costs Renly a bannerman?

My lord, you are an unfriendly person.

And you are an untrustworthy one. Which would you rather have at your side? That's always been the difference between us I suppose.

I negotiated in good faith. You on the other hand have rejected me twice and claim I am the untrustworthy one.

I shall see you on the field.

Tyrion, if gold truly is your master, I will pay you your 1,000 gold for your vote.

I will outpay anything my "brother" promises. And I actually follow through, as Varys for one can attest.

I wonder if you actually believe your words. Or understand them. Your mouth seems to work at cross purposes with your hands.

Is that something you can actually be trusted to do? Pay?

They were careless people, Tom and Daisy- they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other people clean up the mess they had made.

I can attest to Lord Renly paying his bills.

Nice quote, but wrong book.

I think I just clicked on the wrong thread. Sorry about that whoever it was.

Lord Littlefinger, you may be rather useful in swaying the vote today.

Time for talk has ended. I hope some may rethink their votes.

DECLARE WAR AGAINST STANNIS AT MAIDENPOOL.

Goodbye brother.

(ooc) I think that was supposed to be in thread. (/ooc)

I thought it was relavant. I feel like I've been trying to negotiate between spoiled children, one of whom is really bloody impatient.

It seems you're already at war with Volantis brother.

4 days of planning, and we fuck it all up.

Sorry.

You fucking idiot path.

Interesting - it appears that alliances must have shifted since my little birds last reported. The last I heard this is not what I would have expected at all.

I was wondering if anyone would catch that.

So impetuous brother. And to think some think you should rule the realm.

[OOC] DEADLINE CHIEF [/OOC]

What's done is done. I do not expect to see the results of our actions for some time, so I will return to my study. It seems I will be forced to draw up plans of war.

Path I expect 1500 to be sent to me tonight

I am merely saying there is no honorable king...

(ooc - I've edited my "in" post on page one to include lands and their current owners. Hope that's ok)

Why on earth would he give you any money? The die was already cast as soon as Stark placed his vote on this Tarth troll. He would have had to buy my father's vote and three of the small council's vote in order to tie the vote - and that would still be dependent on Joffrey voting with him, something that did not happen.

Give little men a say in matters and they get delusions of grandeur!

I don't believe the Starks could have hoped for a better result, except, perhaps, for catching my father.

I would imagine that Selmy can only aid a king who is without dishonour. As all the houses have brought dishonour on themselves he is unable to take any action. I do not think he is upset with you.

Joffrey - I imagine that many of the would be kings are offering you the "opportunity" to bend the knee to them. This may be necessary in the future but for the moment there is no reason for you to do so. Life as a bannerman is one fraught with danger, my feeling is that you are better served remaining king and seeing how the dice fall. Once there are but two contestants then your support becomes much more valuable. And there is no telling what opportunities the vagaries of war may afford to one who is patient and calculating. House Lannister may have lost the first few battles but the war is still being waged.

Which will make the price of his dishonour substantial for any would be king who wishes my father to be part of their faction.

I need kings to have xx honor and you're all below 0.

I would give the king I pledge my allegiance to a small bonus to fighting..and I'm assuming the BG role sticks..

I believe I phrased it better. :p

I'm hungry like the wolf!

Joffrey - I believe you can lend Jaime some men-at-arms should you want to capture someone. Seems the Baratheon pretenders will be busy fighting their war today. Although the bannerman fleeing option means that it will be difficult to hold onto any bannerman you can force to bend the knee. However you do have a lot of land, so you might be able to entice people with the promise of land.

I have a raven today. I will accept the promise of later payment to make an attempt should more obvious options not prove aquiescent.

Seeya tomorrow. :)

Haha it will take a bit, but I am hopeful to have it done by 10 a.m. my time. :)

(ooc Then we can all vote him out on his first day and make it 0-2 for him).

Ladies and Gentlemen of Westeros,

Here is my appeal to you.

You saw our banners at everyones camp. Negotiations were made, and my emissaries did our house honor. Quite simply, there has been nothing in return for any negotiation except vague thoughts of 'maybe doing something together in future'. This is fine. It is a game after all, and two of the houses have early on, despite protestations to the contrary, allied together to try for victory. There is nothing despicable or dishonorable about this.

For those who have played Diplomacy, there is a Russian/Turkish alliance that is solid enough to sweep the board. This is a perfectly valid way to play. But it is a bit dull, no? Dry? Lacking in panache?

Neutrals, having fun not getting ravens? Lannisters, I did try to work against you in hopes of getting a breakthrough but it was not to be. I can't change that, but I can tell you this -- if we are to go down, it will be fighting. Why not join us?

And if not us, consider this: Do it for Chief.

He's put a ton of time and effort into this ruleset, as well as a ton of time and effort to actually run the damn thing. This ruleset does not deserve a 6-3 field goal game ground out in the mud. It does not deserve "safety". It deserves AUDACITY. It deserves shifting alliances, backstabbing, assassinations and yes, war. Do you want guarantees? I cannot provide them. I can tell you that my intent is to win with as many of my original bannermen as possible. There will be casualties and things will change, but this is your chance to go with an underdog -- and who doesn't like rooting for the underdog?

For those neutrals that are bored, get in the game! Send me ravens with info that will help! Tyrion, got any wildfire? Cersei, really want the Lannisters to survive? Do things to make yourself a player here, not just a bystander. For those who aren't afraid to shake things up, join us! Let's have some goddamn fun!

If you'd rather play a safe game and hook up with the sober careful players I totally get that. But we have a chance here to make this one of those games that gets talked about for a long long time. Will we win? Who knows, it's a longshot.

And if nothing else: DO IT FOR CHIEF!!! He'd love it, I promise.

KING RENLY KEEPS BRIENNE OF TARTH IN HIS SERVICE

We do not recognize as valid a vote from those we are at war with. Honest servants of Westeros, be assured we will be donating whatever possible to remove any perceived stains on our honor.

I want to address this.

First off, fontisian apologized to path12 in the house thread for Storm's End, so I am fine with that apology. I am going to allow us to go forward with no further repercussions, presuming path12 is okay (and I gather he is).

And this is a tense game, so we can all get carried away. I have done it. Most of us has, whom have played for a bit.

All that said, this will not be tolerated further. I am not afraid to send anyone to the Wall and immediately. No insulting fellow players will be allowed.

Don't make me go Big Daddy on you guys. Let's be civil and play nice (even while we're going to war).

I assume I'm still allowed to insult my brother though. And Tyrion.

C'mon guys. BRIENNE OF TARTH TOLD KING RENLY HE WAS A FUCKING IDIOT!!! This game deserves chaos!

DO IT FOR CHIEF!!

And my appeal to the people of Westeros would be to say do not let Renly fool you into thinking the game of thrones is over and the matter decided. He rushes forth to meet me in the battlefield, Tywin roams loose, Joffrey still holds King's Landing and many undecided men and women lurk in the shadows. He wishes to play the part of the underdog hoping people will rush to his side, but in reality things are not so lopsided as he wishes us to think. We have the choice of turning this into a bloody battle weakening the entire Seven Kingdoms, or we can create a united front and perhaps force at least one of these four kings to admit defeat and grow one step closer to a united kingdom.

Yes. Play the safe game. Be cautious. After all, you might lose.

Have fun!!! DO IT FOR CHIEF!! :D

Renly, Renly, Renly.

I tried, man. I tried to work with you, hell, in certain circumstances, I'm still willing to try again. But when day after day, messenger upon messenger tells me you are plotting to stab me in the back before the ink was even dry on our treaties, I find your trustworthiness lacking.

What treaties? I never got anything concrete from our negotiations.

I will tell the truth to all because what have I to lose at this point? I wanted to ally with the Starks and grind Lannister and Stannis between us. I detailed a plan to do so. I was surprised when it was rejected because it made a ton of sense for both of us. I was even willing, had negotiations proceeded, to propose an end game of making Robb Stark King of the North and myself on the Iron Throne, essentially a tie.

And if you heard I was going to stab you in the back, you need to rethink your trust in your messengers.

Work calls. I will check in later. Going to be a busy day on both ends.

I feel like I should also apologize in here. Sorry path.

Renly, you have made it far too obvious that you planned to hop from alliance to alliance, wherever might gain you some bonus. We all know each of the other plans to betray us in the end. The trick is waiting 'til the right moment, but you have made clear from the first moments of negotiating with me that you were willing to back out of it in a flash if something else came along. You have claimed outrage that I didn't send you Clegane, or that I voted against you yesterday, yet all along you would use whatever I gave you against me. Anyone who would join with you today is guaranteed you will turn against them tomorrow. Even if you don't realize it today, the rest of us know that tomorrow another shiny trinket will gain your attention. Perhaps you believe that you wouldn't have betrayed the Starks. But they only need to look at me, a brother who just yesterday you swore you wanted to ally with, to see how far to trust you.

Renly voted for you and then rescinded the votes Stannis. It was your choice to continue hostilities.

[ooc] Love this post, and I'm totally in it for the fun. Let's let this thing get WILD. [/ooc]

And as I said to you in private, Brienne, his vote for me made clear that he had chosen to ally against us. Even if he rescinded it, that only meant he was sorry he had revealed himself. If he had wanted to work with me it never would have occurred to him to vote against me. Correct? Just as days before he had agreed to vote the Lannisters and then voted Melisandre instead. These weren't the actions of someone who was clear he wanted me as an ally. Robb Stark, whatever he may be plotting in private, is wise enough to have not voted against me in public. Renly could learn a few things from the boy.

Regardless, it doesn't matter. Jaime Lannister was right - Renly wished to have it both ways and not reveal where he was standing. If you are right, Brienne, and he did not truly mean his vote against me, then it seems he was betraying the Starks who it seems he had a deal with. Now Robb must decide whether to follow through on an alliance with an impulsive man who can't decide who he sides with, or to join me in battle. I know I would choose the king who stands by his words as much as possible, which is why I chose Stark over Renly.