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DaddyTorgo 06-14-2011 10:55 AM

Do we know if Raymond was okay? That looked pretty painful - going ass-first completely unprotected into the boards like that.

DaddyTorgo 06-14-2011 10:57 AM

Ugh...yikes
Quote:

Raymond had Boychuk's stick caught between his legs when he was awkwardly run backwards into the boards. He remained face down on the ice for several minutes before being helped off the surface and was then transported to hospital for further evaluation. The play went unpenalized and the furious Canucks called for a league review because it has been speculated that Raymond could be sidelined four to six months with a fractured vertebra and miss the start of next season. The review is not expected to occur.

I don't know my rulebook, but was that boarding? Was there a penalty to be called there?

On just watching it, as a Bruins fan obviously, it just seemed like an unfortunate accidental "worst case scenario" where you've got two guys battling for position, one gets wrapped around the other's stick and then checked into the boards, only because he's wrapped around the stick funny and off-balance he can't take the hit the way he normally would.

But if it ought to have been penalized, by all means, educate me and I'll jump right on board with that.

Honolulu_Blue 06-14-2011 11:06 AM

I don't think it was boarding. It was just a very unfortunate and akward type of hit. No penalty was called. Boarding is almost always (only?) called when a player gets hit from behind and into the boards. Here, Raymond has his back to the board and was bent over facing Boychuck who then checked him into the boards. It was because of the way he was bent over that the injury occurred.

It sucks about the injury. It really does. Back stuff is always scary, but I don't see how it was a penalty or what the league would review.

DaddyTorgo 06-14-2011 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honolulu_Blue (Post 2485096)
I don't think it was boarding. It was just a very unfortunate and akward type of hit. No penalty was called. Boarding is almost always (only?) called when a player gets hit from behind and into the boards. Here, Raymond has his back to the board and was bent over facing Boychuck who then checked him into the boards. It was because of the way he was bent over that the injury occurred.

It sucks about the injury. It really does. Back stuff is always scary, but I don't see how it was a penalty or what the league would review.


That's what I thought re: boarding and the nature of the hit and all. Just very very unfortunate and awkward, but not sure how you'd call a penalty or review it.

Don't like to see anyone injured. Particularly back stuff.

Logan 06-14-2011 11:13 AM

I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom.

He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

:(

Chubby 06-14-2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2485103)
I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom.

He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

:(


wait til you see how many kids are getting their license 9 months from now

britrock88 06-14-2011 11:59 AM

That GIF is a good argument for the idea that penalties should carry over from game to game in a playoff series.

Sedin takes Marchand's nonsense because he doesn't want to spoil the PP he has coming. Remember how in school and other places, even acting in your own defense gets you punished to the same extent as the aggressor? That's the assumption he's working under. So failing to react to Marchand shouldn't impugn Sedin.

Fidatelo 06-14-2011 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by britrock88 (Post 2485127)
That GIF is a good argument for the idea that penalties should carry over from game to game in a playoff series.

Sedin takes Marchand's nonsense because he doesn't want to spoil the PP he has coming. Remember how in school and other places, even acting in your own defense gets you punished to the same extent as the aggressor? That's the assumption he's working under. So failing to react to Marchand shouldn't impugn Sedin.


A couple counter-points:
1) In those scrums you can generally do anything short of dropping the gloves and get away with it. Certainly blocking a punch or tying up the other guy will not get you a penalty.
2) This was essentially garbage time. If there was ever a time to defend yourself and prove you aren't a bitch, this was it.

johnnyshaka 06-14-2011 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485066)
:eek:

Yikes. i thought "all of Canada was united behind Vancouver" or some BS like that.


Uhm, not a chance in hell...GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dr. Sak 06-14-2011 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan (Post 2485103)
I grew up in NJ, where you get your driver's license at 17. Undoubtedly, there's a kid walking out of an NJ DMV today proudly clutching his new badge of freedom.

He was born on the day the Rangers won their last Stanley Cup.

:(


At least you were alive the last time your team won a cup

DaddyTorgo 06-14-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyshaka (Post 2485143)
Uhm, not a chance in hell...GO BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hehe

Thnx from down south!

AgustusM 06-14-2011 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidatelo (Post 2485064)
I can't believe Sedin just stood there and took those punches. What a puss. I can understand wanting to avoid the nonsense after the whistle, but you have to at least have some respect for yourself. Push back, try to block it, something, ANYTHING! I would have trouble playing with a guy like that. Sure, you want to stand up for your star guys and shelter them, but you can't do everything for them. If Sedin isn't willing to even remotely stand up for himself, why should his linemates do it for him?

Between stuff like that and all the faking of injuries and other douchiness, I have just one thing to say before game 7:

Go Boston.


I would have to agree, but as a Sharks fan I had already built up a pretty good lack of respect for the Cannucks from the last series.

I will say it is odd, the Rome hit is the play that they will play over and over for years as being the defining moment of the series and I found that to be one of the least offensive things Vancouver did.

bronconick 06-14-2011 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2485166)
At least you were alive the last time your team won a cup


What's a Stanley Cup Final?

/Sharks fan.

molson 06-14-2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 2485353)
What's a Stanley Cup Final?

/Sharks fan.


Hey, it was quite the accomplishment to pull that off in NHLPA '93 for the Genesis - it would say something like "the feistiest fish win the cup!" when you won the cup with them. Not the most exciting easter egg/win screen at the time, though it seemed that way somehow.

Suburban Rhythm 06-14-2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2485166)
At least you were alive the last time your team won a cup


Quote:

Originally Posted by bronconick (Post 2485353)
What's a Stanley Cup Final?

/Sharks fan.


Well, they've only awarded the thing 5 times since the league started back in '05.

/Pens fan

Ronnie Dobbs2 06-15-2011 11:31 AM

Maple Leafs on Game 7

johnnyshaka 06-15-2011 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronnie Dobbs2 (Post 2485593)


Was just about to post this, too...great stuff, Sean.

bhlloy 06-15-2011 11:49 AM

I thought the last DGB was one of the best (if not the best) I've read, but that one is great as well. You are on a roll ML.

How to present the Stanley Cup

Draft Dodger 06-15-2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhlloy (Post 2485600)
I thought the last DGB was one of the best (if not the best) I've read, but that one is great as well. You are on a roll ML.

How to present the Stanley Cup


that's a beaut

Honolulu_Blue 06-15-2011 01:31 PM

It really is fantastic. Great work as always, ML.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 01:32 PM

Hilarious!

Fidatelo 06-15-2011 01:44 PM

I emailed that one to all my friends. Super good.

Maple Leafs 06-15-2011 04:58 PM

Thanks guys... wasn't expecting this one to crazy like it did, but glad people seemed to enjoy it.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maple Leafs (Post 2485720)
Thanks guys... wasn't expecting this one to crazy like it did, but glad people seemed to enjoy it.


Is crazy up there in Canadia?

johnnyshaka 06-15-2011 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485721)
Is crazy up there in Canadia?


I've had half a dozen calls from buddies to play hockey tonight because guys are bailing to watch the game...and the Oilers aren't even involved. Heck, in my neck of the woods, the Canucks are a very close second to most hated team right behind the Flames...so, I'd say we like our Stanley Cup hockey up here.

For the record, I said no to all the offers to play hockey tonight...AND, I was working until 3am this morning and I fully intend to watch the game and enjoy several brewskies.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 06:36 PM

DGB is getting mentioned everywhere, from DVDVR

April/May/June NHL thread - Death Valley Driver Video Review Message Board

to grantland:

Dear Hockey Idiot: Here Are Answers to All Your Questions About Game 7. You're Welcome. - The Triangle Blog


And Simmons just tweeted this. Never mind my fucked up knee, I want to run through a brick wall now.


Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 07:11 PM

Great stuff as always Sean!

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 08:12 PM

Didn't realize Recchi said this would be his last game...

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 08:19 PM

I love it when the crowd sings O Canada

Suburban Rhythm 06-15-2011 08:37 PM

If VAN continues getting these chances without scoring and then Luongo gives up a softie, it's over.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2485833)
If VAN continues getting these chances without scoring and then Luongo gives up a softie, it's over.


Keep talking please?

Bergeron!!

Long long way from over though.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 08:44 PM

More traffic in front of Luongo and more shots on goal please...

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 08:49 PM

Home Team 6-0
First Team Scoring 6-0


SOMEONE'S O MUST GO!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 08:55 PM

Uh oh, Chara takes an elbow up high..

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2485846)
Uh oh, Chara takes an elbow up high..


He seemed to be fine.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:06 PM

You ever get the feeling the NHL issued a directive to the refs to let em go at it tonight.. reminds me of the line before the climactic game in Rollerball (the original):

"Tonight's Championship final will be played with no substitutions, no penalties.. and no time limits!"

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:17 PM

OMG...I thought that was in. Can we get a look at that on replay in the next stoppage please?!?!?!

Oh okay - totally not. Damnit!!!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:18 PM

Marchand rings the post.

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2485857)
You ever get the feeling the NHL issued a directive to the refs to let em go at it tonight.. reminds me of the line before the climactic game in Rollerball (the original):

"Tonight's Championship final will be played with no substitutions, no penalties.. and no time limits!"


Just like Game 7 against the Lightning.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:31 PM

The few seconds..

"NO, CHARA! ARRRGGHHH YES CHARA!!! WHEW!"

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirFozzie (Post 2485867)
The few seconds..

"NO, CHARA! ARRRGGHHH YES CHARA!!! WHEW!"


Exactly

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:33 PM

Looks like Thomas is going to get a shutout

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:35 PM

Man, the ESPN.Com chat is just doing everything short of coronation on Tyler Seguin.. they're saying he's going to be a Top 10 player within four years. I don't know about that, at least he is playing better..

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:36 PM

MARCHAND!!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:36 PM

That's two! Keep it up!

bhlloy 06-15-2011 09:37 PM

Own goal Luongo. He just looks very tentative tonight.

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:42 PM

I'm convinced someone in the Bruins' brass made a deal with the devil.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2485878)
I'm convinced someone in the Bruins' brass made a deal with the devil.


What's the price they had to pay? Might be worth it...

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:42 PM

Wow, they let the flying elbow go but call that? Ok.. Time for a PK, bruins!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:46 PM

SHORTIE! OR A PENALTY SHOT!

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:46 PM

That is embarrassing.

Galaxy 06-15-2011 09:47 PM

Vancouver must of not have gotten the memo this is Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Finals.

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:49 PM

President's Trophy curse waited a LONG time to rear it's ugly head..

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:51 PM

Game's far from over. Here in Boston we don't celebrate this early. Especially against a talented team like this. They could easily come out in the 3rd and make it a game in a matter of minutes.

DeToxRox 06-15-2011 09:51 PM

Grats DT, Foz, et all.

Do you realize, barring a miracle, the fucking Pats will have the longest title drought of all Boston sports teams?

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 2485895)
Grats DT, Foz, et all.

Do you realize, barring a miracle, the fucking Pats will have the longest title drought of all Boston sports teams?


Far from over DeTroxRox. Far from over.

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:52 PM

3 years in a row the Flyers lost to the eventual Cup Champions.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:53 PM

WOULD YOU GUYS STOP!!! YOU'RE GOING TO JINX SHIT!!!!!!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:54 PM

Heh. Twenty minutes to play. Feel Good, but Bruins Fans remember a Game 7 from a year ago..

Suburban Rhythm 06-15-2011 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485897)
Far from over DeTroxRox. Far from over.


If there was anybody but 7uongo at the other end I'd agree with you. But its done. Even if Boston gives up some chances, Thomas doesn't give up 3.

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485900)
WOULD YOU GUYS STOP!!! YOU'RE GOING TO JINX SHIT!!!!!!


And that would be a bad thing how :devil:

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2485906)
If there was anybody but 7uongo at the other end I'd agree with you. But its done. Even if Boston gives up some chances, Thomas doesn't give up 3.


Even Michael Leighton....thought so!

MacroGuru 06-15-2011 09:55 PM

Damn....Vancouver has choked on the cup.....At least I get to say I saw the 2011 Stanley Cup champs play in real life.

Gratz DT!

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 09:58 PM

Don't congratulate me. Game's not over...and even if/when it is I had nothing to do with it.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 09:58 PM

Now you're getting ME to yell stop jinxing stuff :)

Seriosuly, the Bruins have had like three real "scoring" chances (not including the two where the Canucks drove people into their own goalie) and have three goals.

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 09:59 PM

Love this tweet

Quote:

blogesalming Bloge Salming
Hey Vancouver don't get down...Ottawa lost in the finals in 2007 and look how they turned out.

Galaxy 06-15-2011 10:02 PM

Good job Boston! Enjoy the parade.
:D

MacroGuru 06-15-2011 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485913)
Don't congratulate me. Game's not over...and even if/when it is I had nothing to do with it.


:p LOL.....

The game I was at TD Garden to watch was the Bruins / Maple Leafs....for a Sabres fan, who do you root for? I wanted to get out of the Garden alive so it was the Bruins....on top of that...there is no way in hell I could root for the Leafs....

bhlloy 06-15-2011 10:03 PM

If this hockey goalie thing doesn't work out at least Luongo can have a nice career as a matador. Ole!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:03 PM

A Certain DownGoesBrown with a couple great tweets:

Boston goals: Slot one-timer; Wraparound where goalie is run over; Push goalie into net on breakaway. This game is brought to you by NHL 94.
QUOTE
Fourth goal will come when they go fivehole with the pass button from the red line.

bbor 06-15-2011 10:07 PM

Game over!

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:08 PM

You know what, Instead of yelling at people to stop jinxing things, I'm just gonna start eating people's spleens... :P :)

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 10:08 PM

If things go bad here I'm putting all you assholes in this thread who jinx things onto ignore.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:10 PM

BTW, since I have to be working (and I have to keep my leg elevated), I have a stream of the game up.. Normally I'd be back and forth to the TV, but I can't walk right.. so I just realized that this CBC feed is from Montreal (but is in english).. and they just had an add for a concert by this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZWxErEbQkY

MacroGuru 06-15-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485933)
If things go bad here I'm putting all you assholes in this thread who jinx things onto ignore.


I'll buy you a beer when I am in town....

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 10:18 PM

cheap shot by Hansen - can i get a game misconduct?

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 10:18 PM

The upside, I guess, is that if the Bruins win the Cup, then the Leafs will be only Original 6 team not to win since color TV was invented.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:19 PM

Maybe a penalty on the B's before that, but the Canucks player didn't get the call, saw red, and cheapshotted a guy. Lucky it's not a major.

bhlloy 06-15-2011 10:21 PM

wow, what a douchebag

Suburban Rhythm 06-15-2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2485898)
3 years in a row the Flyers lost to the eventual Cup Champions.

Hawks first in 49 years...Bruins first in 39 years...it's Philly's year next year!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2485909)
Even Michael Leighton....thought so!

Not fair to include him. He'd get pulled, replaced by Boucher, Bobrovsky starts the next period, before giving way to Leighton in the 3rd...while Johan Backlund is on the first bus from Adirondack. Leighton would only be responsible for another 8-10 minutes. Trick question.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:28 PM

Hah! They just had a picture on the CBC feed of Thomas's wife and little girl, the little girl (like 4 or 5) was standing in a sea of Blue Canucks Jersey, and waving a Bruins Towel :D

Travis 06-15-2011 10:29 PM

Looking more and more like Boston scored as many goals in game 3 as Vancouver will get in the series. Yikes.

Galaxy 06-15-2011 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2485945)
Hawks first in 49 years...Bruins first in 39 years...it's Philly's year next year!


Only if they get a goalie. :D

Galaxy 06-15-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2485939)
cheap shot by Hansen - can i get a game misconduct?


Dumb, dumb penalty. What was he thinking?

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suburban Rhythm (Post 2485945)
Hawks first in 49 years...Bruins first in 39 years...it's Philly's year next year!


Thank God for Toronto

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:35 PM

Wow, no Penalty on the hug and hold to prevent a breakaway?

And Burrows with a spear to the leg...

bhlloy 06-15-2011 10:37 PM

Luongo looks scared on the breakaways. He just got lucky that Bergeron miscontrolled that puck otherwise he would have let another one just slide by him.

bbor 06-15-2011 10:39 PM

Worst game 7 ever?

bhlloy 06-15-2011 10:39 PM

How the fuck is Hansen still in the game? Weak ass refereeing, and I don't think I've ever done a 180 in a series where I came in wanting one team to win and then ending up praying they don't. The Canucks are little bitches almost to a man.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:41 PM

And there's an empty netter!

MacroGuru 06-15-2011 10:41 PM

Game over....call the midget team in to play the garbage time...

Dr. Sak 06-15-2011 10:42 PM

4th year in a row the Cup will be awarded on Away ice.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:44 PM

Recchi on the ice to celebrate the cup? :)

RedKingGold 06-15-2011 10:45 PM

So...does Canada secede from the union now?

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 10:45 PM

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

spleen1015 06-15-2011 10:45 PM

Grats DT.

I think I'll be a Tim Thomas fan for life.

SirFozzie 06-15-2011 10:46 PM

Wow. I thought the Bruins had a chance before the series, but when they lost the two heartbreakers, I won't deny that I was concerned.. but the B's have the cup.

Wow.

DaddyTorgo 06-15-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spleen1015 (Post 2485971)
Grats DT.

I think I'll be a Tim Thomas fan for life.


Nothing to do with me! But I'll be at the parade!

MizzouRah 06-15-2011 10:47 PM

Congratulations all you Boston fans!

Galaxy 06-15-2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr. Sak (Post 2485965)
4th year in a row the Cup will be awarded on Away ice.


Pretty interesting fact.

Isn't Jeremy Jacobs considered on pretty crappy owner?


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