I wish I could consult, well, anything.

I put suits against the two people who were with me in voting to free Bullet. I figured that the Tarqs might want to spread their votes out, so I would rather bring suit against someone who has a reasonable chance (based on the above logic, and being on my suspects list at the start of the day) of being a Tarq.

I'm not going to advance to the top of the wealth list, but if I can make incremental gains while diminishing the Tarqs I'm all for it.

I'm hoping more will be revealed. But I'm thinking of a plan for this next day. I think that Ironus Headus should reveal which service he hired that provided a killer. I think we should pick two other services that are vital for the Senate. I think we should have the three wealthiest Senators (or however many there are in that group) bid on those vital services to assure the Senate has them to use.

This will allow us to corner those services. It will also allow us to test the loyalty of our wealthiest members. Is there any drawback to doing things this way?

The following Senator has been murdered:

Alan T, by poison

The following Senators are currently in jail:

Imus Thecrewus

financial update next, this may take a while.

Just one jailed again??

Let me get response from a PM and you will get more information.

For the record, I arrested ImTheCrew.

I figured I wouldn't live long this game. Out of game note, stay tuned, for a really good RL post from me. I'll post the link here too. Some of you probably are interested.

Ooh damn. Does this mean that Alanus' death prevented him from arresting someone? Can you confirm that Mustangus, that you jailed Imus?

It seems Ironheadus' thoughts on the methods of killing might be right. He seems to have denied the traitors their killer by sword. Either they can kill by poison on their own, or there is a service they acquired whicih allowed it (perhaps the sex trade)?

i am very intersted to know who jailed ITCus

Oh thank you Kayus Whitus, I meant you, not Mustangus.

friggin weird/annoying that we're only ending up with one person jailed everyday. That's seriously hampering our ability to have any choice and thus get any voting records for people and have any choice of what to do on a daily basis!!

Tough luck, Alan. You played a good game.

Another Day 3 special for Alan - had been awhile since he bit the dust then.

And another of our wealthiest citizens is on the rock - another guy who is not exactly a social butterfly.

Crew - what services have you pursued so far this game?

never mind...didnt see kayus whitus' post

Wow, well, Bulletsponge was a good guy.

I know this because I'm a lawyer, and apparently it was logical to see bulletsponge was loyal to the republic.

WHY THIS WASN'T LOGICAL BEFORE HAND I DON'T KNOW!!!

GRRRAAA!!

Barkeep, no arrest?

You're saying you got a PM saying Bulletus was loyal?

I am saying that, yes.

I'm obviously running on too little sleep. I was thinking Alanus was still consul, and that was why only one arrest. Now I"m very interested to know why we only have one man in jail.

Yeah, barkeep must have dropped the ball. Dang.

That's too bad that Senator Bulletus was unwilling to share more informatoin then. Some of you were probably right htat it was just his playing style. Very odd. I hope Imus decides not to act so mysterious if he is a loyal Senator.

Our Consuls apparently don't remember too terribly well that they're supposed to freakin arrest people.

I just hope he doesn't make more comments about nappy headed hos.

Barkeepus had said he sent in a standing arrest order, didn't he? I wonder if that didnt' work, or if the traitors have some means of escaping arrest.

Autumnus, I'm afraidus thatus willus beus the caseus.

Only thing I can conceive of is he ordered the same arrest, with the contingency arrest of...Alan?

I don't remember him saying that. I said that I sent one in, but I don't recall hearing anything from him about that. But I'm about to check...

Jesus, another day of only one arrest? This is getting ridiculous. I mean there's always people getting slack with their roles in any game, but one this important, sheesh...

Yeah, look about 2-3 pages back. He did say that.

5 points for that one. Gold.

Perhaps the bodyguard can protect against arrest if in the wrong hands? We'll need reports on services to figure this all out.

Just want to let everyone know that I will likely be quite mellow today. A party of sexual slaves showed up at my door last night as a gift. I do not know where they came from - the "gift" was anonymous.

Anyone know the Roman equivalent of smoking after sex? Cause I need it right now.

Ardent, did you get that PM becuase you represented him, or just because you're a lawyer?

I was not told the bodyguard did that.

I recommend that from now on, we do an unofficial lynch vote to determine the two people who should be arrested. If the consuls are loyal, they should go along with what the majority decides. If not, well it's suspicious.

Assuming that Ardent is telling us the truth about Bullet (Schmidty, can you vouch for this as the other lawyer) what do we learn?

1. The Tarqs had ample motivation to want to remove Bulletsponge, among the richest of our group.
2. The person who imprisoned him was poisoned tonight, so they were not responsible for him being arrested, just opportunistic
3. I'm guessing that not each and everyone voted for him when they had their numbers in check. That could support either BK/DT voting to free him or just electing not to vote (will try to put together this list)

I know that I'm Roman, so I'm not considering my vote as the "split the Tarq vote" option. And I believe someone else knows I'm Roman at this point as well, although not from the horses. That message died with Alan - I initially was going to send it to someone else but decided that Alan was more likely to be alive tomorrow than my initial recipient. Oops.

The wealthiest men in Rome are:


Dodgus Erchickus
Imus Thecrewus
Marcus Vaughnus

The following Senators are known to be extremely wealthy:

Coffeus Yakus Warlordus
Ironsus Headus
Kayus Whitus
Lonestarus Girlus
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus

The following Senators are known to be moderately wealthy:

Abeus Anxietus
Antus Meisterus
Autumnus Leavus
Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Narcizus Lispus
Pathus Twelveus
Peregrinus Barbarus

The following (remaining) Senators are of ordinary wealth for the Senatorial class:
Alanus Teeus
Ardentus Enthusiastus
Chiefus Rumus
Daddyus Torgous
Grammus Atticus
Hoopus Guyus
Neonus Chaosus
Saldanus Lathumus
Tyrus Ithus
Mustangus Sallus

The following services are available in the Forum:


Persons selling their services in the Forum

Maximus Maximus, ex-legionnaire
Vitus Avidus, ex-legionnaire
Durus Pimpus, dealer in sexual slaves
Macro Gothicus, barbarian turned citizen for his service during wartime
Balbus Senna, political philosopher from Corsica
Faustus Felix, owner of many horses
Bonus Oceanus, owner of many horses


and of course,
Ardentus Enthusiastus
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus

I just did a search and didn't see it. Damn. Do you have a post #?

Over the course of two PMs:

I was told I reviewed his effects and found him loyal.

I asked him why...

I was told that I used logic and rhetoric to determine it.

Apologies. Got you two mixed up. YOU said you sent a contingent order in, he did not.

Any idea yet about what that does?

Right. Ok.

GOD DAMMIT!!!! I WAS PROMISED A ROMAN ORGY! AND I DIED BEFORE I GOT IT!

Sex slaves are a block on your abilities, a bad guy won them and is trying to block you. I know, because I just won them on Day Three.

Makes sense. Anxiety must have outbid me for that. I tried again tonight.

Last night, I purchased Balbus Senna's services.

Bulletus Spongeus was absolutely loyal to the Senate.

High five goes out to my boy Schmidty.

Hmm, not sure that the person sending sexy after Ironhead was a Tarq trying to block him. Could have been a Roman who didn't trust him at the time they sent the order (note - wasn't me, I had horses).

You're still #2, though.

The following lawsuits will be heard today:

Bulletus Spongeous sues Kayus Whitus
Ardent sues Coffee Warlord
Alanus Teeus sues Grammus Atticus
Alanus Teeus sues Abeus Anxietus
Ardent Enthusiast sues Kwhit for suing me yesterday
Narcizo sues LoneStarGirl
Narcizo sues DaddyTorgo
Ardent Enthusiast sues Alan T
Pathus Twelvus sues Antus Meisterus
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Abeus Anxietus
CHIEFUS RUMUS SUES SALDANUS LATHUMUS
Abeus Anxietius sueth Schmidityus Schmidityus
Peregrineus sues Lonestarus Girlus
Schmidityus Schmidityus sues Abeus Anxietius
HOOPUS GUYUS SUES BULLETUS SPONGEUS
Dodgus Erickus sues Imus Thecrewus
Antus Meisterus sues Saldanus Lathumus
Antus Meisterus sues Schmidtyus Schmidtyus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Coffeus Yakus Warlordus
Coffeus Yakus countersues Saldanus Lathumus
HOOPUS GUYUS SUES BARKEEPUS VALERIUS FORTYNINEUS
HOOPUS GUYUS SUES DADDYUS TORGOUS
Abeus Anxitius sues Lonestarus Girlus
Abeus Anxitius sues Marcus Vaughnus
Coffeus Yakus wants more money, and thusly sues Dodgus Erchickus
Grammaticus Atticus sues Mustangus Sallas
Grammaticus Atticus sues Marcus Vaughnus


the following lawsuits have been put on hold until the courts have time to hear them:

CHIEFUS RUMUS SUES DODGUS ERCHICKUS
CHIEFUS RUMUS SUES NARCIZUS LISPIS
CHIEFUS RUMUS SUES PEREGRINUS BARBARUS
CHIEFUS RUMUS SUES DADDYUS TORGOUS
CHIEFUS RUMUS SUES MUSTANGUS SALLUS
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Antus Meisterus
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Autumnus Leavus
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Narcizus Lispus
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Pathus Twelveus
KAYUS WHITUS SUES Peregrinus Barbarus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Ironsus Headus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Lonestarus Girlus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Marcus Vaughnus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Schmidtyus Schmidtyus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Abeus Anxietus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Antus Meisterus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Autumnus Leavus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Barkeepus Valerius Fortynineus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Kayus Whitus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Narcizus Lispus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Pathus Twelveus
Saldanus Lathumus sues Peregrinus Barbarus
Dodgus Erickus sues Lonestarus Girlus
Dodgus Erickus sues Ironsus Headus
Dodgus Erickus sues Tyrus Ithus
Dodgus Erickus sues Antus Meisterus
Pathus Twelvus sues Autumnus Leavus
Pathus Twelvus sues Tyrus Ithus
Pathus Twelvus sues Chiefus Rumus

Who is Balbus Senna? Is that like a seer ability? Did you get to choose who to scan? And when did you find out he was good?

Give me the night of my life? :D


But seriously, my original idea of the service was that it granted some kind of secrets about the player. Pillow talk, as it were. That is a complete guess though.

Crap.

That's not why I knew that.

It was because I'm a lawyer. :(

I revealed something for no reason.

I am horrible at this game.

Same time I did I'd bet. After he was dead.

Is there any indication of what these slaves do for you? Or against you?

Promised update posted in the off topic/GD thread!

Schmidty's dead.

He';s wealthy, he won two Days in a row, and one of those wins was an auto-kill. That adds to bad guys blokcing him in my book.

Nah, I sent my proof of my loyalty to one player, to prove to him that I was clean.

I recieved a PM saying that Bulletsponge was clean, so I assumed that that was related...until I heard that AE got the same thing as a lawyer.

I revealed something to you people for nothing. :mad:

I really hope not.

Ah. Well... What you revealed wasn't too bad, I don't think. I thought you were saying you had won the seer-type service for tonight/tomorrow, which would make you a prime candidate for a wolf kill. But that's not what you're saying, is it?

I'm confused now.

I'm not sure it is that big a deal, chances are pretty good that any individual service was consumed on a given day.

No, it was a one time purchased service to proove to a player that I am clean.

If I were a wolf I wouldn't try to stop him from using the ability, unless I had a strong suspcion that he was going to guess right. I have to believe the odds still favor the Romans by a decent margin.

Also it would have had to be a late order, after Ironclad revealed that he won and that he didn't intend to use it.

You could be right - I'm just not as convinced of it as you seemed from your statement.

Blocking him from what though? He had revealed the service he had and said he was not going to use it. I suppose the traitors could be afraid he would kill one of them randomly. Or a loyal Senator used it to make sure Ironhead didn't kill anyone. But both seem like poor choices.

I MADE AN ERROR IN MY POST DETAILING WHO WAS SELLING WHAT IN THE FORUM I HAVE CORRECTED THAT POST, AND WILL ADD THAT CORRECTION HERE AS WELL

Maximus Maximus, ex-legionnaire
Vitus Avidus, ex-legionnaire
Durus Pimpus, dealer in sexual slaves
Macro Gothicus, barbarian turned citizen for his service during wartime
Balbus Senna, political philosopher from Corsica
Faustus Felix, owner of many horses
Bonus Oceanus, owner of many horses

and, of course,

Ardentus Enthusiastus
Schmidtyus Schmidtyus

Well, I need to go to bed, so I won't comment any more until tomorrow. I would like to hear from everyone what services they used and how. It seems obtaining the services for the Republic is going to be the key of the game. I'd also like to hear comments on my idea of being transparent about what services do, and asking our wealthiest to bid for them transparently.

I wonder why it was important for him to change this....

I'm confused by this as well.

Damn, Neonus Chaosus has sued the toga off me. By the way, does anyone know if Alanus Teeus was a Tarq or not? I just skimmed over some posts and didn't find out if a Tarq has been killed.

I didn't realize that we made that many lawsuits today. Looks like 25 can be heard in a day.

Because otherwise people would be bidding on the wrong services?

What happened to my law suits? People who sued after me got their cases on the docket? I get no respect. Absolutely zilch. :mad:

also, I tried to buy the services of pimpus and did not win....apparently pimpus will not take an IOU.

Did I miss your suits? This is entirely possible. Can you find the post #?

That was me, I sent the Pimpus to Ironhead. He seemed to not trust Alan (the only person I trusted whom is now dead) so I thought he might have been a Tarq. I'm wondering if the fact that 1 person died might be because he is in fact a Tarq and I blocked him by sending whores to his pad or what. I'm still out of it so not sure what all has gone down.


Before I purchased the services that was my original thought. But when I got my PM, it said that I could prevent any secret actions from going down.


Heh, you crack me up Schmidty :)

And not in order.

Ummmmm.....is this supposed to be a revelation or what? Hmmmmmm......

I dropped no ball. I am just livid right now. I sent in an order for ITC as well. Clearly KWhit's claim that a conditional order of his would work was not a go. So we both arrested ITC. This is why I pleaded with KWhit to give some guidance about who he was going to arrest so we wouldn't duplicate. Still catching up with the game, but I'm really upset right now about that.

Sunofabitch.

Alright what is up with this. Seriously did KWhit just slip when he said that Schmidty's dead? Was this a slip up that he tried to fix. And now this. Something's not right.

I just wanna give cronin props, it's obvious he put a lot of thought into this game and I appreciate all the hard work he's putting into it.

Thanks cronin.

I'm still really upset. Perhaps today we can do the semi-coordination thing. I sent my PM to cronin at 5:51 CZT. There's no reason we only had to have one suspect today. None.

That said I have the most trust for CW and hoops at this point so I'll go ahead and vote for both of them for Consul.

Vote Coffee Warlord for Consul
Vote Hoopsguy for Consul

Both votes subject to change.

Cronin: Can we not unvote to execute someone as I did not want to see bullet executed in the end (not that it would have made a difference

I don't know. I do know I asked for Kwhit to list three people he might have jailed and I'd jail someone not on that list so that we wouldn't duplicate. He didn't do so. He said instead he sent in a conditional order. Clearly either

A. No such order was sent
or
B. The conditional order was not honored (something that based on a PM cronin sent earlier in the day stating we could do conditional orders I find hard to believe)

Cronin can Consuls issue conditional orders or not? Or only certain types

Duly noted. Let's take this to court!:)

Bear in mind, if you trust me even a little, I did use Swaggs to check KWhit, and he turned up clean. (Or at the very least he wasn't up to anything that night - I have no way of knowing how far reaching that is.) I don't think it was a slip in the manner you're thinking.

That's what I was afraid happened. I didn't want to say anything until I heard your side of it, but I did get a PM response that said my conditional order was not legal, so my alternate order would go into effect. I had said something like - If the conditional order is illegal, then go with: I arrest ImTheCrew. Unfortunately, I didn't get the PM from cronin saying my order was illegal until I checked in right before the deadline, so I couldn't do anything about it.

However, I did say that I had arrested an UTR person. And you could just as easily have stated who you were arresting, so I hope you're not blaming me for what went down.

Why bother with KWhit? I'll lose.

Where's the popcorn? I'm looking forward to this.

Absolutely I'm blaming you. I gave you a way to make sure we didn't have this situation. You didn't go with it. There have been several UTR people, not just ITC.

No. Read the posts before and after. It sounded like Schmidty was saying he had accidentally revealed that he had the seer service tonight. And I said he was dead because that would make him a prime candidate for a wolf kill.

You sent in your order. What's to be gained from me publicly announcing who my arrest is? As you stated you weren't around until after deadline so even if I had announced I sent in ITC it wouldn't have mattered. I asked for a simple list of 3, so that you don't risk antagonizing anyone, my presumption for why we didn't announce ahead of time (a good reason I may add) and wee don't risk doubling up.

You haven't hired me yet. I'm bonafide.

Considering I can't seem to hire anyone, I doubt I'd be able to get your services. My hiring attempts never seem to work :(.

As I said earlier, you could have said who you were arresting as well. At least I did something to try to avoid having a duplicate arrest. It didn't work, but I tried to give the conditional order. I did so, because st.cronin said we could do conditional orders (as you said). That's what gave me the idea. But his PM response was that "This type of conditional order is illegal, so you will arrest ITC."

I'm as clean as they come. I have had MANY people look at me and vouch that I am an honorable Roman. You are barking up the wrong tree and I did NOTHING wrong with my arrest order.

KWhit speak to your fellow senators and explain yourself. Apparently Coffee Warlord says you are clean through the services of Swaggs, but for some reason I am starting to lose trust in both you and Coffee Warlord. I sense deception, but I am not 100% sure. We already spilled the blood of innocents and I just want to cover all the bases.

I'll tell St.Cronin I'll take your case pro Steve Bono.