Has FNC backed themselves into a corner by calling Wisconsin when it seems others haven't? Now when others called PA those totals would put Trump over the top and would put them in a bad spot if Wisconsin turns around on them. So now they can't call PA because "it's too close to call" and those professional mathematicians say it can't be called yet (the same ones that wouldn't call that Senate race even when one candidate was conceding).

Looks like Trump got that one Maine vote that was left.

Dope isn't conceding.

Podesta seems like he's rushing through this speech almost nervously. He really wants off that stage.

So, Alaska could put Trump at 269; tie can still happen... :)

He wanted to get off the stage before another announcement came.

looked like he had to borrow a suit jacket off of someone, that thing was 4 sizes too big.

I'm shocked, disgusted, bunch of other words, but.. hope for the best I guess. *sighs*

Seems like Jon's point about turnout played a big part. I missed the exact county, but in one of the counties in Wisconsin that went heavily for Obama, there were 100k fewer votes this time (percentages remained the same). That looks like it played a big role on losing the state.

That was just lost water weight from sweating the night. It fit at 600p.

{nods} Thanks ... but I also missed my projection on Gary Johnson in Georgia.
He's at 3.077% with 99% counted. I swore that he'd be closer to 2 than 3 on election day. I believed his steady slide in polls would continue, it did not.

AP finally calls Blount. And that makes 51.

Is it me, or does anyone else also hate the 538 website tonight? The color scheme, the honeycomb map decision, it's just hard on the eyes to me.

Speaking of third parties, the Libertarians and the Greens both will have more than doubled their vote totals from 2012. (Johnson tripled his vote count)

Johnson is at 3,776,326 right now. He got 1,275,951 in 2012.
Stein has 1,078,381 votes, she got 469,628 in 2012.

Percentages will be key to relevance of that though.

Why hasn't AP called Wisconsin? Looks like 99% counted and he has a 3% lead.

AP just called Wisconsin

...and the race for Trump

President Trump... that will not be easy to say. Will he put his name on top of the White House?

PA is at 99% now; Trump with a 75K lead. Call the state already FNC.

Why does it matter if Fox calls it? Both the AP and PBS called it already. It's over.

There's the call.

Hillary has called Trump and conceded (according to CBS News).

Doesn't; just that I am watching the local Fox channel so I wanted to see results before I went to bed.

Trump apparently speaking soon.

He may top 300 as well.

Will Hillary even be able to say she won the popular vote? I guess California has a ways to go but it'll be close.

Agreed - lame of her to send people home and then concede within the hour without showing her face.

I really hope this is the end of the Clinton's in the Democratic Party. Handing her the nomination and not putting up any real competition gave the party a garbage nominee who lost to a reality TV star.

I hope Trump getting elected has the same effect on tacos that Obama had on guns.

I should've realized Trump's attempt at uniting woukd be listing every single person he knew and thanking each. Where's the Oscar orchestra when you need them?

Really looking forward to 4 years of listening to this fool babble on about nothing at all.

+1

Trump's first move as president-elect - trying to calm the markets by giving a boring, gracious, victory speech. Better than mocking the handicapped, calling anyone a cunt, or causally talking about dropping nukes on the middle east - so we're off to a decent start, I suppose.

My favorite moment of his speech was the casual hand gesture when he said "We owe Hilary ...{pause}"

If you missed it, rewatch the tape :)

This is strikingly like the 7th chapter of Esther.

They do owe Hillary. In hindsight that whole deplorables rhetoric was a hidden gem.

Fair point.

It's actually the only buzz word/catch phrase I've used all night I believe.

WTF guys ?

idk

Well America is tanking!!! All we can do is Trust The Process...

— Joel Embiid (@JoelEmbiid) November 9, 2016

How different would the election have been if Sanders was the nominee? Hopefully the next 4 years goes by quickly.

Come on man, that stuff is for the first 100 days!

I don't think it would have. That word socialist would have been a very large hurdle to overcome for voters. It wouldn't have mattered.

In the post-mortem, have to wonder a couple of things.

1. Does this signal a broader shift in the electorate, or is it just a result of a terribly poor Democratic candidate?

2. How does Trump actually govern? So many Republicans distanced themselves from him. Do they kiss the ring and fall in line with his policy? Who is in a Trump cabinet? Who will be making all the decisions, when Trump himself seems so clearly disinterested in much else than the attention this affords him.

Does Trump himself have any idea what policies he intends to implement? Off the top of my head, he has put forth multiple (and often-contradicting) positions on immigrant, the Muslim ban, abortion, going after the families of terrorists, and the minimum wage. I tend to suspect that Mike Pence and/or Paul Ryan (or the next Speaker, if that happens) will be among the most powerful to hold his position, because they'll be the one(s) actually setting the agenda.

Supposedly he wants to go for business folks for the Cabinet - like an oil company guy for Interior, finance guy for Treasury - guess we'll see.

In Thailand, and I met a woman who's daughter runs a massive firm that does fundraising for Democratic candidates. Met her at a cooking class at the literal moment the Times started pushing Trump into the 70s for won percentage. She said her daughter was in the center with Clinton insiders, and everyone was legitimately shocked this was happening. They were 100% blindsides. None of their polling had this.


Nothing meaningful to add, outside of, there's obviously a part of the populace that hasn't been trapped before, if ever. Initially, I thought that, wow, they really hate Hillary, but that can't make up even a tiny part. I think it's that the media really missed what was important. Yes, the economy as a whole is fine, and for most everyone who hangs out on the internet, jobs are fine, but a lot of people are terrified that the jobs that were here aren't coming back, and no one seemed concerned. Even if the jobs don't come back (and they won't) at least someone finally gave a damn. They didn't care about taxes (he's rich, they'd love not to pay taxes and be rich), racism (they're taking jobs we don't want, but they're our jobs), or sexism (literally just don't care). They didn't care if he's a nutter who could have his finger on a nuke trigger, because to them that's a ridiculous hypothetical, no more likely to ever occur than a bat flying to the moon. We're America, no one would ever pick that fight (they're probably right).

Why wouldn't they decide to go for this huckster instead of the woman who talks out sides of her mouth we didn't even know existed.

This is where the rest of us who opposed this result sit back and go, you won, now what?

It's not our party anymore, it's on you now.

Looking forward to the wall. He better build it now.