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Galaxy 11-04-2008 07:56 PM

Has Georgia and Alabama been called for McCain on network TV? I see it has been called on the MSN homepage.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlifornia (Post 1879447)
Did anyone notice that the Libertarian candidate is actually a cartoon elephant?


Are you going to give it Chlymida too?

Autumn 11-04-2008 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879429)
Miss Alaska 1984


Is this supposed to answer my question? Because I'm still thinking urban legend here.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 07:57 PM

Medical marijuana is going to pass in Michigan.

MrDNA 11-04-2008 07:57 PM

She just doesn't do it for me. Although if I impregnated her, she would have to bear the child, which is a plus. :shrug:

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:57 PM

hasn't been called on CNN (but cnn is being very slow to call this year - which i actually prefer, gives me greater confidence in it being right)

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879454)
Has Georgia and Alabama been called for McCain on network TV? I see it has been called on the MSN homepage.



I just heard Fox call it.

SackAttack 11-04-2008 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879454)
Has Georgia and Alabama been called for McCain on network TV? I see it has been called on the MSN homepage.


I don't know about network. I'm following the streaming MSNBC feed, and they called it there.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 07:58 PM

errr cnn calls alabama "based on a lot of information including exit polls"

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 07:59 PM

Guys, you're forgetting the cardinal rule. No sticking it in the crazy

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:00 PM

RI, MI, NY, MN, WI to Obama per CNN
WY + ND for McCain

Tigercat 11-04-2008 08:01 PM

Interesting that MN was called for Obama and ND for McCain at poll closings. Neither results are a surprise of course.

Arles 11-04-2008 08:01 PM

New Mexico called for Obama on Fox.

Young Drachma 11-04-2008 08:02 PM

My aunt is a 3rd grade teacher in Georgia and she had a student tell her that her mother said that if Obama wins, she'll shoot him herself.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat (Post 1879431)
Yea, calling Chambliss a winner at this point is hard to believe, unless they feel they have some EXCELLENT exit polls.


Either that or they can tell which results posted include early voting & which don't. You could do some reasonable extrapolation with that info.

But at the same time, I'm not seeing things that would lead me to call based strictly on what's been posted so far. Little snapshots, such as Wilkes County which went 55% Bush (statewide was 58%) in '04 being completed tonight with Chambliss leading Martin 49.4% to 48.5%. That's within the margin for an outright win if everything held up the same way elsewhere but it also showed a virtual zero change in total votes from 4 years ago, meaning it doesn't appear reliable as a predictor (since it didn't experience increased activity).

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:03 PM

I'm on CNN's website but listening to MSNBC and it's pretty funny how they keep calling different states.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1879476)
My aunt is a 3rd grade teacher in Georgia and she had a student tell her that her mother said that if Obama wins, she'll shoot him herself.


Somebody needs to emphasize the importance of leaving what's said at home at home.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 1879419)
No, it would cut personal income tax by 2.65% for income gained in 2009, and then remove it entirely for income gained in 2010, so not immediate.


Still rather quick (only two years in a downturn). I just find it interesting they are trying to tax everything (such as taxing college endowments over a $1 billion and bringing in casinos), instead of cutting costs.

Do you think that the state would collect more sales tax revenue and would see a long-term increase in new jobs (thanks to lower taxes) and more individual spending? Would it stop the flight of people to places like New Hampshire.

Coffee Warlord 11-04-2008 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879461)
hasn't been called on CNN (but cnn is being very slow to call this year - which i actually prefer, gives me greater confidence in it being right)


Except now they've turned Michigan blue...with McCain in the lead.

And Wisconsin blue...with 0 votes.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:04 PM

CNN calls NM and NH Senate seats for Dems (Udall+Shaheen) +2

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coffee Warlord (Post 1879481)
Except now they've turned Michigan blue...with McCain in the lead.

And Wisconsin blue...with 0 votes.



I don't have a problem with that when it is not going to be close.

Radii 11-04-2008 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn (Post 1879422)
Do people actually find Palin hot? I keep seeing headlines and jokes that suggest that's true, but so far I've passed it off as urban legend.


very milfy. I'd hit it.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:07 PM

Obama has a 5% lead in North Carolina with 32% reporting. That's about a 130,000 vote lead right now.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:10 PM

Begala+Carville are saying Obama will carry FL (based on their conversations and their knowledge of the states) - NOT cnn calling it though

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879389)
Stop baiting. That is not what he said.


Your right. My apologies Noop.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:14 PM

Jennifer Granholm on MSNBC. She's pretty corrupt, isn't she? (only from what I've read on her).

miked 11-04-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879404)
Fox just called Chambliss as a winner.


It's embarrassing to live in a state where Chambliss can get re-elected (after getting elected in the first place). I'm not devastated, I won't lose sleep over it, but he's really scum.

Noop 11-04-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879490)
Your right. My apologies Noop.


It's all good.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by miked (Post 1879493)
It's embarrassing to live in a state where Chambliss can get re-elected (after getting elected in the first place). I'm not devastated, I won't lose sleep over it, but he's really scum.


how did the POS get reelected?

miked 11-04-2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879497)
how did the POS get reelected?


It didn't hurt to run against a dolt. But he does get heavy redneck support.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:17 PM

NC is now at 100,000 difference (Obama leading). Virginia is separated by 25,000 votes (McCain leading). Indiana is at 40,000 votes (McCain leading). Florida is at 200,000 votes (Obama leading).

No 2004 red state has flipped yet (at least according to CNN and MSNBC), but those 4 are really close.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:17 PM

random observation - Obama @ 174 right now according to CNN estimates.

Therefore, CA (55) + FL (27) + OH (20) puts him over the top (assuming all "calls" hold)

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879497)
how did the POS get reelected?


I'm going to answer that as honestly as I can: by not being a liberal p.o.s.
Any mistakes he might make pale in comparison to that.

terpkristin 11-04-2008 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879501)
random observation - Obama @ 174 right now according to CNN estimates.

Therefore, CA (55) + FL (27) + OH (20) puts him over the top (assuming all "calls" hold)


175-76 according to ABC News.
/tk

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:19 PM

CNN now calling KY Senate for McConnell - very close though - 51 to 49 with 56% of the vote in

Arles 11-04-2008 08:19 PM

Fox just called Ohio for Obama. I think that's it.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879507)
I'm going to answer that as honestly as I can: by not being a liberal p.o.s.
Any mistakes he might make pale in comparison to that.


even if he raped babies?

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:22 PM

dola

yeah...i went there

fantom1979 11-04-2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galaxy (Post 1879492)
Jennifer Granholm on MSNBC. She's pretty corrupt, isn't she? (only from what I've read on her).


I have never heard that she is corrupt, but some people believe she is inept.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879512)
Fox just called Ohio for Obama. I think that's it.


I saw that. I think agree with you, McCain is done.

Flasch186 11-04-2008 08:23 PM

O stands for Ohio

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:23 PM

i'd rather hit gloria borger and/or campbell brown than sarah palin

KWhit 11-04-2008 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879479)
Somebody needs to emphasize the importance of leaving what's said at home at home.


Or maybe just tone down the hate talk. There's an idea.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fantom1979 (Post 1879515)
I have never heard that she is corrupt, but some people believe she is inept.


Thanks for the clarification.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arles (Post 1879512)
Fox just called Ohio for Obama. I think that's it.


MSNBC called Ohio as well for Obama.

Logan 11-04-2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879518)
i'd rather hit gloria borger and/or campbell brown than sarah palin


I'd rather hit the chick that gave Karl the clap than Sarah Palin.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:26 PM

ABC also called Ohio for Obama.

miked 11-04-2008 08:26 PM

I still have a hard time believing Chambliss can run away with this because Dekalb and Fulton haven't really been posted (at least not on any sites I see). Oh well.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:26 PM

MSNBC projects Louisiana for McCain.

Young Drachma 11-04-2008 08:26 PM

Talk about an anti-climatic night. lol

tucker rocky 11-04-2008 08:27 PM

What kind of offensive settings are being used for this election?

Smash Mouth, Run-n-Shoot, Balanced, West Coast?

BishopMVP 11-04-2008 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1879377)
Next step is a college football playoff.

Change I can believe in.

timmynausea 11-04-2008 08:27 PM

Add ABC to the list of those calling Ohio for Obama.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:27 PM

Florida's ban on Gay Marriage: 62% with 48% reporting.

MrDNA 11-04-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879518)
i'd rather hit gloria borger and/or campbell brown than sarah palin


Oh, HELLZ YEAH.


DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:28 PM

idk that any of these gay marriage bans would stand up to lawsuits though...

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:28 PM

Virginia is separated by 10,000 votes with 70% reporting.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky (Post 1879528)
What kind of offensive settings are being used for this election?Smash Mouth, Run-n-Shoot, Balanced, West Coast?


Run & shoot, one side has an athletic QB.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 1879534)
Oh, HELLZ YEAH.



see - straight up - that is one very attractive lady

fantom1979 11-04-2008 08:29 PM

Its going to be an early night

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrDNA (Post 1879534)
Oh, HELLZ YEAH.




She is, ah, very nicccee.

Tigercat 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

It will be a very interesting result if NC goes to Obama but Virginia doesn't.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879535)
idk that any of these gay marriage bans would stand up to lawsuits though...


The Florida one is to amend their state constitution and so is the California one.

Lathum 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

Fox is interviewing one of McCains advisors and she seems very defeated

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonInMiddleGA (Post 1879537)
Run & shoot, one side has an athletic QB.



Oh no you didn't.

Senator 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noop (Post 1879393)
It will happen.


College Playoffs - please make it happen Obama. You can do anything!!

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:30 PM

awwww there's my GAL...damn she is beautiful.

Young Drachma 11-04-2008 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tucker rocky (Post 1879528)
What kind of offensive settings are being used for this election?

Smash Mouth, Run-n-Shoot, Balanced, West Coast?


A-11

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:31 PM

New Mexico called for Obama on MSNBC,

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:31 PM

30% Republican turn-out in Ohio. Ouch.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sabotai (Post 1879551)
New Mexico called for Obama on MSNBC,


Cronin outvoted those other three guys hard.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:32 PM

And I call dibs on Maria Bartiromo.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1879546)
College Playoffs - please make it happen Obama. You can do anything!!



I think that last minute interview put him over the top.

Senator 11-04-2008 08:32 PM

Instead of calling it state for state, why don't you call the election?

Noop 11-04-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1879546)
College Playoffs - please make it happen Obama. You can do anything!!


I think college football's current system will be the reason.

JonInMiddleGA 11-04-2008 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigercat (Post 1879541)
It will be a very interesting result if NC goes to Obama but Virginia doesn't.


I just said pretty much that same thing to my wife. If you told me NC went Obama, I would have assumed without hesitation VA did too.

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:33 PM

It's 200-85 right now according to MSNBC.

Lathum 11-04-2008 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senator (Post 1879557)
Instead of calling it state for state, why don't you call the election?


if they call the election people turn off the TV

BishopMVP 11-04-2008 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 1879513)
even if he raped babies?

It's Jon... I think we all know the answer to that one. :)

fantom1979 11-04-2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrantDawg (Post 1879552)
30% Republican turn-out in Ohio. Ouch.


That doesn't help win a state you have to take.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:34 PM

Obama needs to get a gatorade shower.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:34 PM

CNN's calling Ohio. bang!

terpkristin 11-04-2008 08:35 PM

Anybody care to guess what the stock market does tomorrow?

Arles 11-04-2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1879566)
Obama needs to get a gatorade shower.

What he said!

terpkristin 11-04-2008 08:36 PM

ABC calling NM for Obama.

/tk

Arles 11-04-2008 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terpkristin (Post 1879570)
Anybody care to guess what the stock market does tomorrow?

I hope it stabilizes a bit with this election now over.

GrantDawg 11-04-2008 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeToxRox (Post 1879566)
Obama needs to get a golden shower.



Dude! Keep that to yourself!

Galaxy 11-04-2008 08:37 PM

+4 for the Dems in the Senate right now.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:38 PM

NC is now within 60,000 votes so it looks like that will come down to the wire (not that it looks like it'll matter). Virginia's difference is ~7,000.

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:38 PM



I deft you to not get this stuck in your head

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:39 PM

I just hope Obama isn't in the Prevent Defense right now. Hate to have to stay up until 4 AM to see it called.

sabotai 11-04-2008 08:39 PM

And McCain seems to be holding a 50k-60k lead in Indiana as the numbers keep coming in so it looks like he'll carry that one.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:39 PM

LOL - so apparently in McCain HQ they've turned off the news

cuervo72 11-04-2008 08:40 PM

Heh, Diane Sawyer seems almost giddy on ABC.


Oh, and a big +1 on Campbell.

Pumpy Tudors 11-04-2008 08:41 PM

I don't want a college football playoff. I'm leaving the USA.

DaddyTorgo 11-04-2008 08:43 PM

ohhhh campbell brown *drool*

DeToxRox 11-04-2008 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pumpy Tudors (Post 1879587)
I don't want a college football playoff. I'm leaving the USA.


You just got VooDoo'd

SirFozzie 11-04-2008 08:44 PM

Bwuh? From BBC (No, I don't see any mention in Google yet)

BBC North America editor Justin Webb: Fascinating tales from Virginia - a Democratic lawyer tells me that litigation may follow if they lose the state: sophisticated efforts have been made to derail their victory, they claim, involving a double computer hack.

JPhillips 11-04-2008 08:45 PM

I believe I hear a chorus of fat ladies.

Surtt 11-04-2008 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark Cloud (Post 1879413)
Interesting that the main Socialist candidate picked a 23-year old as her running mate. Not as if being a socialist party candidate for VP would be a real resume booster, tho.

Party for Socialism and Liberation: Meet Eugene Puryear


Can you have a VP who can not serve as president?
(age requirement)


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