Dola, it sucks being away all day because then I have to lose posts by multi-quoting.

same old day one....the list of suspects just increased severely...

fine let's move these around

unvote hoops
vote abe

Mauboy1 - PackerFanatic, ntndeacon
CrimsonFox - AbeSargent, mckerney
Narcizo - J23, saldana
Abe Sargent - Narcizo, The Jackal
Zinto - dzilla77, Hoopsguy, Lathum, Chief Rum, Daddy Torgo
Hoopsguy - Zinto, CrimsonFox, Mauboy1, Tyrith

I just feel like Zinto is someone who gets targeted a lot early - and for understandable reasons. But I'm trying to branch out from coming into each game voting for the same people on D1, and I got no real reads from the random conversation that took place earlier today. Voting for hoops isn't my preference, but I'd rather balance in a vacuum.

I'm actually thinking about moving it from Zinto to Abe in this spot, knowing that I'm a villager and seeing movement away from Abe/Crimson when the vote briefly surged to 3-3.

I would do it right now if I wasn't smack in the middle of the runoff, but as it stands I'll wait a couple of more minutes to see what develops.

vote Mauboy



Just going with someone who has some votes at this point. He lives a long time in the last game.

Not that I'm getting a dola in here, but I mean when vote was 3-3-3-3 with me/Zinto/Abe/Crimson.

I think Zinto is a villager here.

me too.
I also think Narcizo is a villager.

This is all vibe mind you

If I was a seer, I would be scanning Hoops tonight. i still do not get a good vibe from him, but he's not someone I would want to vote out day 1.

I hate first day votes. I feel bad voting for anyone :(

5-5 tie between Zinto and Abe as of post 465

whats the count

I'm all for getting scanned, but I'm not sure who wouldn't say that if they were drawing some heat. It won't get us any kind of bad guy, but there are worse things individually than sliding onto a trusted list.

Timestamp bug!

There are lots of reasons to keep quiet about roles for a long time in this one, so we should do our best to try to avoid being in a spot where someone has to reveal with five minutes to go. So whether it's Zinto, hoops or Abe, let's try to put one of them a little in the lead in the next five minutes.

Hoops making sure he is not a top 2 candidate. I think a typical Hoops move would be to leave his vote where it was.

More like solidly in the lead.

I'm not switching my vote again. Four or five is enough.

Unvote COmmo
Vote Hoops

I know I said I wasn't going to do this, but I am going with my gut and at least going to see what kind of action this creates.

Hoops 2 - Zinto (197) mauboy (390)
Zinto 5 - dzilla (217) Lathum (304) Chief (440) Daddy Targo (446) Commo (450)
mauboy1 2 - PackerFanatic (230) ntndeacon (334)
CrimsonFox 2 - Abe Sargent (248) mckerney (403)
Narcizo 2 - J23 (260) saldana (349)
Abe Sargent 5 - Narcizo (269) Jackal (389) CrimsonFox (453) Tyrith (458) hoops (465)
Commo - Danny (468)

ok, ties dont help

unvote narcizo
vote abe

none danny, people won't vote for hoops.

I guess it is interesting to hear what people say is "typical" for me, but personally I think playing gut on vote movement late in a day is awfully typical of my vanilla villager play.

I didn't like how Zinto surged out to a late run on top of me once there were four candidates in the mix, knowing that I was a villager and the incentive of the 5 people with knowledge of Two Face would be to keep their guy out of the runoff. So I wanted to push one of the two (CF/Abe) into the runoff.

If that isn't typical for me, then maybe my game needs work. Because I think it is absolutely the right move in that spot.

Unvote Hoops
Vote Zinto

I feel about 95% we have a villager-villager run off here.

Hoops 3 - Zinto (197) mauboy (390) Danny (475)
Zinto 5 - dzilla (217) Lathum (304) Chief (440) Daddy Targo (446) Commo (450)
mauboy1 2 - PackerFanatic (230) ntndeacon (334)
CrimsonFox 2 - Abe Sargent (248) mckerney (403)
Narcizo 1 - J23 (260)
Abe Sargent 7 - Narcizo (269) Jackal (389) CrimsonFox (453) Tyrith (458) hoops (465) saldana (477) MrBug (478)

Abe isn't even around either, when was he last in thread?

BTW, I completely disagree with Chief's earlier post about there needing to be voting distance. Neither candidate is even here to reveal anyway, a close vote tells us more in the long run.

I'll push it back towards Crimson if people feel strongly on Abe in this spot - but it would have to happen quickly for it to be useful.

I would say Chief, mckerny, and Daddy T are high on my suspicious list now, joining hoops and abe. And abe was probably circumstantial really.

I just don't think Zinto comes out like this immediately after being a wolf.

Also, color me surprised that Abe isn't here at the deadline given that this time matches when he was running deadlines for his game the last couple of weeks.

which would be pretty much par for the day one course unfortunately

so why are you voting for him

I generally agree, but a lot depends on what the candidates are. I would definitely advise the seer to potentially look at people involved in getting votes.

i would much rather go crimson than abe, to be honest

i am a LITTLE suspicious of mauboy now actually just dumping his vote on hoops behind me like that

Because I don't think Abe is bad either and it was down to only two candidates. I wasn't going to make it 8-5.

of course you would, why change? :)

OK, but when we switch that will also move it back towards Zinto.

Lets see what happens - worst case is, I guess, putting it in the hands of a coin flip.

UNVOTE ABE SARGENT
VOTE CRIMSON FOX

It's too late for a major switch. Its either going to be ZInto or Abe.

I'll see what happens.

Unvote Zinto
VOte Crimsonfox

The trick isn't getting Abe out of the lead, it is doing so in 2 minutes without vaulting Zinto back into the lead. And I'm now leaning towards thinking Zinto is not Two Face, at the very least.