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ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomkal (Post 2066438)
That's true Pass, but its day 1 and so far no one has come forth with an in-game reason to vote for anybody I think, and Jack Bauer has suggested we vote for ntn amongst others, so hence my vote. Is there another person you think we should be voting for at this point?


I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.

nfg22 07-07-2009 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066437)
I will grant you that but neither should the nonsensical goofing around that happened prior to the game actually starting count either.


Are you saying in regards to my posts? Take those two out..I still have been very active.

nfg22 07-07-2009 02:04 PM

edit: take those three out.

nfg22 07-07-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066445)
I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.


I believe he didnt say to vote for you but to not vote for Jackal...that was my take at least.

Autumn 07-07-2009 02:08 PM

I'm back and fixed, I think.

I'm wary of the bandwagon on ntn myself. I will be voting for Purduebrad right now simply because he's the other main candidate (other than Jackal). I hope to be around to switch if something better comes along.

VOTE PURDUEBRAD

Thomkal 07-07-2009 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066445)
I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.


quite honestly ntn is there a reason to vote anybody else at this point? Give me an in-game reason to vote someone else and I will consider it. I have nothing against you, we just have to vote for somebody at this point.

Thomkal 07-07-2009 02:10 PM

yay Autumn, glad you got it fixed!

Passacaglia 07-07-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066445)
I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.


ntn, my hunch is The Jackal sent DT a PM telling him what his role was. Is there a reason that you feel uncomfortable doing the same thing at this point?

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:17 PM

this is starting to look a lot like a run...i can always get back into it later, but i don't want any shenanigans to push things over the top

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2066451)
I believe he didnt say to vote for you but to not vote for Jackal...that was my take at least.


+1

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2066459)
ntn, my hunch is The Jackal sent DT a PM telling him what his role was. Is there a reason that you feel uncomfortable doing the same thing at this point?


What makes you think I haven't? As soon as I got back from class I did do that very thing.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066469)
What makes you think I haven't? As soon as I got back from class I did do that very thing.


confirmed

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:20 PM

i believe that in with the people who have sent me roles so far there are doubtless wolves. however i don't think all the wolves have.

therefore my thinking is: choose from those who have and risk taking out a known-quantity villager trying to hit one of the wolves who did, or

b) choose from those who haven't and try to get a wolf and if it's a villager then they will likely reveal to me

so that is what has been informing my decision-making

Passacaglia 07-07-2009 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066469)
What makes you think I haven't? As soon as I got back from class I did do that very thing.


I guess the silence from DT about it? I figured that if you had, he would have said something, or unvoted you, which he hadn't when I had posted that.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:23 PM

and a +1 to the person who utilized their power on me. i will not reveal them yet, unless they are under pressure of course.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Passacaglia (Post 2066474)
I guess the silence from DT about it? I figured that if you had, he would have said something, or unvoted you, which he hadn't when I had posted that.


my silence is primarily a result of the 20 different tasks i've been ping-ponging between today

ISiddiqui 07-07-2009 02:24 PM

Ok, based on DT's unvote of NTN, I'm going to make a decision:

Vote Purdue Brad

Passacaglia 07-07-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066477)
my silence is primarily a result of the 20 different tasks i've been ping-ponging between today


No worries, I wasn't even trying to accuse him of not doing it -- I was just trying to help him out in case he hadn't.

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nfg22 (Post 2066449)
Are you saying in regards to my posts? Take those two out..I still have been very active.


I was actually referring to the large number of posts prior to the start of the game regardless of who said them. In fact, I thought a lot of the posts in night 0 were of a similar ilk. That was the reason I did not post then. I couldn't do anything useful at the time. I am hopeful my abilities will become useful as we move along.

Alan T 07-07-2009 02:30 PM

Ntn has showed up now and has been active in the conversation since arriving, so I'll wait to hear more from him. Now to consider where to look instead.

Unvote ntndeacon

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:30 PM

In terms of in game reasons, look at AlanT and Kwhit's votes for me. Especially KWhit's. Alan used the moldy chestnut that I am under the radar too often. Kwit just said it was an interesting horse race before he started to put the "race " out of reach. Therefore
Unvote Jackal
Vote KWhit

Autumn 07-07-2009 02:30 PM

I think I've read/skimmed most of the thread but I really need to catchup on things like work, clients, etc. I'll post my thoughts when I can get back.

claphamsa 07-07-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066476)
and a +1 to the person who utilized their power on me. i will not reveal them yet, unless they are under pressure of course.

+1 what?

Alan T 07-07-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066487)
In terms of in game reasons, look at AlanT and Kwhit's votes for me. Especially KWhit's. Alan used the moldy chestnut that I am under the radar too often. Kwit just said it was an interesting horse race before he started to put the "race " out of reach. Therefore
Unvote Jackal
Vote KWhit



Lucky for me I moved my vote just before you posted this! :)

My point still remains though. People who talk often, it is easy to find either holes in their story or some way to confirm what they are believing.

People who just show up, vote and nothing else, I have a very hard time figuring out. So no criticism of your play style, but it is one I always have a tough time figuring out. So if I take a roll of the dice on someone on day 1, without much else to go on, that is as good as anything else.

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:32 PM

I will say at least Alan's vote had the apperance of a reason which Kwits did not. niether did the first vote of JAG this morning. But as a first vote I overlooked it for now

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan T (Post 2066491)
Lucky for me I moved my vote just before you posted this! :)

My point still remains though. People who talk often, it is easy to find either holes in their story or some way to confirm what they are believing.

People who just show up, vote and nothing else, I have a very hard time figuring out. So no criticism of your play style, but it is one I always have a tough time figuring out. So if I take a roll of the dice on someone on day 1, without much else to go on, that is as good as anything else.


It was indeed serendipitous. I wouldn't have had as much problem with your reason if it had been the first to mention it. Yes I am quieter than several here. I am rarely going to have as many posts as Danny or you for instance. There are some I do pass, even before they get voted out.

JAG 07-07-2009 02:38 PM

I actually gave my reason in a post before the voting one so I didn't feel a need to rehash it. I'm glad to see you actively engaged now. At this moment I'm keeping my vote on you, but it's not set in stone.

nfg22 07-07-2009 02:39 PM

I'll go with NTN here. Seems he is stepping up.

UNVOTE NTN DEACON
VOTE KWHIT

JAG 07-07-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066496)
It was indeed serendipitous. I wouldn't have had as much problem with your reason if it had been the first to mention it. Yes I am quieter than several here. I am rarely going to have as many posts as Danny or you for instance. There are some I do pass, even before they get voted out.


I don't think everyone needs to be a post whore, but the village needs everyone's help providing at least some analysis, thoughts on suspicious activity that others may have missed, and so forth for reasons that Alan laid out above.

Alan T 07-07-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066496)
It was indeed serendipitous. I wouldn't have had as much problem with your reason if it had been the first to mention it. Yes I am quieter than several here. I am rarely going to have as many posts as Danny or you for instance. There are some I do pass, even before they get voted out.



Yeah, I didn't figure there was a need to be the first to mention it since it is a pretty common philosophy in most every game anyways. My two options usually in the early game is to either wait until late to vote and try to go with my gut instinct based on the day 1 action, or to go with someone who is under the radar with the assumption that if I am wrong it might hurt us less than going after someone who if bad will lynch themselves with their own actions later on.

Since this game there is no fixed deadline to get a vote in before later on, and I'm simply not able to be here as much this game to get a great read on people, I chose option B.

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:41 PM

ok JAG, I must have missed it. I will go back and look for it.

KWhit 07-07-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066492)
I will say at least Alan's vote had the apperance of a reason which Kwits did not. niether did the first vote of JAG this morning. But as a first vote I overlooked it for now


For the record, I voted for you because you were almost completely silent in the game at the time (which is why I pointed out a few posts after my vote that you had only 2 posts in the thread at the time and that one of those was the sign up post). Just because I didn't say "I am voting for NTN because he hasn't said a single meaningful word in the thread as of yet" doesn't mean that I didn't have a reason.

JAG 07-07-2009 02:45 PM

As of Post 486:

4 - The Jackal: Purdue Brad (328, 8:16 AM) saldana (343, 9:10 am), Tyrith (388, 10:40 AM), claphamsa (453, 1:55 PM)
1 - BrianD: Pass (330, 8:23 AM)
6 - ntndeacon: JAG (332, 8:31 AM) path (360, 9:42 am), The Jackal (374, 10:26 AM), KWhit (390, 10:45 AM), kingfc22 (425, 12:22 PM), Thomkal (441, 1:42 PM)
5 - PurdueBrad: EagleFan (334, 8:59 AM), Telle (411, 11:51 AM), BrianD (443, 1:43 PM), Autumn (459, 2:08 PM), ISiddiqui (471, 2:24 PM)
2 - KWhit: ntndeacon (475, 2:30 PM), nfg22 (482, 2:39 PM)

Yet to vote: Danny, Schmidty, Chief Rum, henry296, DaddyTorgo, AlanT

By %:

ntndeacon: 25%
PurdueBrad: 21%
The Jackal: 21%
KWhit: 8%
BrianD: 4%

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 02:48 PM

FYI everyone - this is the worst possible day for this to happen, but i am swamped at work with trying to get some stuff out the door by the time i leave. So i have a bunch of people's PM's that i want to respond to, but I'm under the gun. Be patient with me.

claphamsa 07-07-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyTorgo (Post 2066507)
FYI everyone - this is the worst possible day for this to happen, but i am swamped at work with trying to get some stuff out the door by the time i leave. So i have a bunch of people's PM's that i want to respond to, but I'm under the gun. Be patient with me.



do you still have the 4 limit we all do?

ntndeacon 07-07-2009 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2066502)
For the record, I voted for you because you were almost completely silent in the game at the time (which is why I pointed out a few posts after my vote that you had only 2 posts in the thread at the time and that one of those was the sign up post). Just because I didn't say "I am voting for NTN because he hasn't said a single meaningful word in the thread as of yet" doesn't mean that I didn't have a reason.


True, however it also happens to be with a surge making it less of a two horse race and into a avalanche of support for my exit form the game. That raises my suspicions. I imagine (if I survive) that I will have a stronger view on someone tomorrow. At least in terms of a day one vote, that gives a stronger reason to vote than they havent said anything thus far.

JAG 07-07-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066501)
ok JAG, I must have missed it. I will go back and look for it.


End of post 319 or 320 (I forget now). It was basically the same reason as everyone else, you hadn't said anything other than to check in.

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Originally Posted by JAG (Post 2066051)
My vote will almost assuredly go to someone who is not contributing much.


KWhit 07-07-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066511)
True, however it also happens to be with a surge making it less of a two horse race and into a avalanche of support for my exit form the game. That raises my suspicions. I imagine (if I survive) that I will have a stronger view on someone tomorrow. At least in terms of a day one vote, that gives a stronger reason to vote than they havent said anything thus far.


No. At the time I made my vote, it was only a one vote advantage for the jackal (I made it 2 - still anything but a runaway this early in the 24 time period). So I wanted to keep it at a 2 horse race and picked the person who hadn't really posted in the thread. That's all.

path12 07-07-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ntndeacon (Post 2066445)
I am sure he will agree, but let me say Jack Bauer did not know anything about who I am or what my allegiances might be. The only thing he said about me is Iam quiet. That is the SOLE reason any of you are voting for me.


That was my main reason, and I may have been first IIRC.

Is there anyone who hasn't checked in yet? I don't have time to go back and check.

Danny 07-07-2009 03:01 PM

Not too much to go on here. Right now I am leaning towards a Kwhit or PB vote.

KWhit 07-07-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by path12 (Post 2066520)
That was my main reason, and I may have been first IIRC.

Is there anyone who hasn't checked in yet? I don't have time to go back and check.


The lowest post counts now from people in the game are:

henry296 - 3
Chief Rum - 4

path12 07-07-2009 03:03 PM

UNVOTE NTNDEACON

Let's see how the next couple hours develop.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by claphamsa (Post 2066510)
do you still have the 4 limit we all do?


some of you may receive PM's in response - all of you certainly will not. That's as much as I'm willing to say - I don't want to let too much about powers slip out there.

I'm having to respond to the PM's where I feel it can make the most impact.

JAG 07-07-2009 03:05 PM

If I were to change my vote, I would rather go with BrianD than KWhit. Reasoning being that a. DT said he didn't have a read on him in post 401 and b. He was the first to put someone (The Jackal) at 3 votes breaking a 4-way tie of 2 votes.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KWhit (Post 2066532)
The lowest post counts now from people in the game are:

henry296 - 3
Chief Rum - 4


FWIW I do not have any idea what either of them are.

nfg22 07-07-2009 03:10 PM

Im down for anyone...i just need a reason...my votes are never set in stone.

saldana 07-07-2009 03:22 PM

well with what is going on, i need to change, but i hate runaways at the beginning..too many places to hide.

unvote the jackal
vote purduebrad

Tyrith 07-07-2009 03:22 PM

Frankly, I'm pretty confused about what we're trying to accomplish here. I'll vote for whoever - I've got nothing - but doesn't it generally behoove us to stick to the same guys and make the wolves actually pick a side, instead of squirming around? The movement gives a lot of cover to setting up a lynch they want, I think.

Tyrith 07-07-2009 03:26 PM

Now PB has 6 votes, ntn has 5, and Jackal has 3. But we only have one candidate with any momentum - PB. This needs to not turn into a runaway.

DaddyTorgo 07-07-2009 03:27 PM

you're right Tyrith - runaway's tell us nothing. close votes often tell us nothing if we have 2 villagers, but at least have the potential to tell us something.


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