It was self defense!

Well I am sorry to see a Jedi die, even one I voted for. However, I actually think I have a Sith as opposed to just feeling uneasy about play.

Hoops has been doing what he does best as a wolf: making lists that cast suspicion all the while not acting on the suspicion. Makes him seem villagerish while not actually being a villager. Pending revelations that's where my vote is going.

I find it interesting that the vital announcement said not to construe the battle as an indication of Tanglewood and Taz's roles, but made no mention of whether to do so for Lathum.

The quote about "destroying me now will cost us the benefit of my strength and wisdom for the remainder of the mission," as well as his ability to break the Force hold, makes me wonder if we just lost the bodyguard. :(

I had a list of four names for today and voted for the name at the top of my list. I did this early and did not move from it, despite feeling some pressure to do so.

What I did not do today was vote for a known Jedi (that was Day 1 with Eagles).

It's easy to say in hindsight, but Lathum's play on Day 1 didn't make me think he was a Sith. It just made me think that he was reacting quickly/emotionally like he often does in werewolf. Some people put a lot of thought into every word they post; Lathum is not in that category.

With that in mind, a hurried Day 2 post didn't condemn his as a liar in my mind.

I'll come up with the voting records for today in the next couple of minutes. Then I'll make a list of people who have voted for two known Jedi in the morning. Because that is what I do .... make lists and not act on them.

That definitely sounds like a special role to me. Bodyguard seems like a good guess if we are playing a conventional roles game. Given the three schools mentioned on Wikipedia, there could be a strongest in each of the three areas:

Guardians: Bodyguard
Consulars: Seer
Sentinels: Duke

Pure conjecture here, but the lightsaber colors with these groups are blue (guardians), green (consulars), and yellow (sentinels). No pink blades to be found among Jedi, although Windu's purple one comes close if I want to reach a little here.

I am on the list of voting for two jedi. Should be interesting to see who else is on the list cause well known jedi are in large supply at the moment. Look forward to your continued in action on your analysis hoop and appreciate the nondenial. Make me vote with an easier conscience.

I believe its INACTION...not two works buddy ;)

Back to WW

Great the new mod cares about spelling. I'm sckroughed.

I really don't know how to win an argument like this, Barkeep. If you are going to vote for me then I guess that I hope that you don't get enough support to carry it off and run the string to 26 villagers tomorrow (assuming that the wolves get only one tonight).

"well known jedi are in large supply at the moment" - huh? There will be 18 unknowns tomorrow and 5 known jedi. I'll be pretty surprised if there are more than a handful of people who have voted for two dead Jedi.

I'm willing to entertain any ideas that you may have for our course tomorrow that don't involve lynching me.

In a post about spelling mistakes, i can't spell words*....wow

You also forgot the apostrophe in "it's."

That grammar, not spelling...TOTALLY UNRELATED!


Wait, do you see that...its some weird shape kwhit...looks kinda like a box ;)

JOKING FOR ANYONE SERIOUS OUT THERE

Spelling is a subset of grammar so if you're going to complain about one get the other one right biotch :)

Alright, i shall do as requested. By the way, add a period at the end of your sentence. :)

I assume he will when you capitalize your sentence properly.

:)

If I had to guess, saldana just got tanglewood mixed up with Lathum, and was jibing at him.

Since Lathum didn't duke anybody, and there was the reference to strength, I have to think that if he had any of those roles, it has to have been the bodyguard.

I have it on good authority that Jeebs is going to win the game. Congrats!

Just because every WW player but him is getting boxed doesnt mean hes going to win...more like a forfeit ;)

Been thinking about this and it only works if he's a wolf. If he's a villager he's got to vote people off one at a time and yawl can't suspend people that long. No if he can kill TWO people a day... well that's a whole different ball game.

Do you mean two per night action, or two as in night action plus daytime vote?

Box=dead to me...im sure saldana can add a missed vote rule...that should fix things

DO NOT READ INTO MY COMMENTS!! ITS A JOKE!!! I DONT NOT KNOW HIS OR ANYONES ROLE!!...i really shouldnt have made the joke, sorry

Good work guys. This is the first time I have been actually annoyed about being lynched ( I'm over it now ). I would hope most of you know I play a more solid game and not have condemmed me because of saying one stupid thing without giving me a chance to defend myself. oh well, see you next time, unless barkeep is running the game in which case I'm just not that smart... :)

Sorry Lathum :(. I guess early in a game where no one has come forth with outside information those little slip ups can almost be a death sentence. Obviously it was the wrong choice this time. :(

As for the list Hoops is going to post tomorrow I'm going to be one of the guys that shows up voting for 2 known villagers, but I stuck to my guns and provided evidence for my voting, so I hope it isn't held against me too much. With that said I already have a guy in mind that hasn't been playing his "normal" game that will be my vote for tomorrow. And no, it isn't you Hoops, I still believe you are on the side of the jedi at this point.

I'm also sorry Lathum. I pretty much led the charge against you because of your slip-up and I really thought I had you pegged. I'm sorry to have voted you off but day two votes usually aren't much better than Day 1 votes so little mistakes here and there could be enough to get you lynched.

This whole barkeep v. hoops could be interesting...

I've been wanting to hold off on analysis until the results are posted this morning from the night action, but here is one thing that I found interesting yesterday:

All three of the swing votes on Qwik from Day 1 (Gram, Sack, and Ardent) had their votes on Lathum yesterday.

Ok I was am bored at work so I did some research. In the HP game, 6 people voted for villagers on the first 2 days. 3 were wolves, 3 were not. Now this was a game where we found wolves on the first two days. I expect when I go back in time to find a game where there were 2 villagers killed on the first two days that results will be different, but I don't know. Maybe looking at who has voted for villagers in the first two days is a better technique then I suspected.

Going to look at hoops and ardents games next to see if this ratio looks different in those games.

Well maybe if you had actually come back in time to defend yourself you wouldn't have gotten lynched... :mad:

Son of a bitch, I'm not looking very good right now with my votes for Eaglesfan27 and Lathum. All I can say is that I'm merely confused, not evil.

Which means that all three of those guys have voted for two unique (unlike Dubb, who voted for Lathum both days) Jedi on Day 1 and Day 2.

I don't think all three of these guys are Sith. The Sith will not vote in a block like this, even if it is to save another Sith on Day 1. But with Qwik still around I don't have any idea what to make of the Day 1 movement. This is not intended as an "I told you so" at all, just being frustrated by the lack of good information.

:eek: i was working, my restaurant is actually busy :eek:

Hoops what's the complete list then of those who have voted for 2 known villagers at this point?

I was planning to do this after getting the Night kill, but here is what I have right now:

Superman/Lathum - KWhit, Grammaticus, SackAttack, Ardent Enthusiast
Eagles/Lathum - JeeberD
Lathum/Lathum - Dubb


Conversely, here is a list of people who have voted unknown/unknown so far (no confirmed Jedi votes)

Qwikshot - D1: Qwikshot, D2: no vote
Cartman - D1: Qwikshot, D2: Qwikshot
King - D1: Stkelly, D2: Qwikshot
Mckerney - D1: Dubb, D2: Qwikshot

In case anyone else wants to slice and dice the final votes, here is the data I'm working with.


Day 1
Alan T - Lathum (142)
Qwik - Qwik (231), Barkeep (159), Eagles (170), Penny (172), Cartman (179)
Super - SnDvls (167), Kwhit (206), Taz (222), Gram (244), Sack (248), Ardent (250)
Eagles - Hoops (174), Jeeber (208)
Schmidty - Desnudo (180), Ardent (209)
Lathum - Dubb (195), Alan T (225)
StKelly - King (223)
Dubb - Mckerney (229)
Barkeep - Stkelly (240)

Day 2
Qwik - Hoops (318), Cartman (327), mckerney (358), SnDvls (366), Schmidty (367), kingfc (391)
Lathum - Barkeep (326), Penny (342), Desnudo (359), Sack (361), Dubb (368), Jeeber (370), Grammaticus (375), KWhit (397), Tanglewood (401), Taz (424), Stkelly (429), Ardent (430)
Tanglewood - Lathum (334)

Sweet; I forgot that we don't know that Qwik is innocent for sure so here I was feeling that I voted against two known innocnets when I've only voted against one :)

That was sure a tease. I saw you had posted and assumed the results would be up :p

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Barkeep, I was really wondering where you were coming from with that last night. Makes sense now.

Wow. In ardents game of the 6 people who voted for villagers on the first two days 4 were baddies. Blade was not considered a villager for that game.

I'm going to skip hoops game and got to whoever was before saldana assuming I live through. This is turning out to be quiet interesting, I think.

Ok so my idea of there being a blessed seems to have proven true.

Nice, so do we think this was a blessed role, or possibly the bodyguard using his ablity?

dola, barkeep beat me to it...

We needed this, maybe out luck is changing...

It could be a bodyguard, but it seems to me that perhaps the description would be written differently. Rereading it though there's nothing to say it couldn't be the bg.

Well for Coffee's game I considered the villagers good guys, the demons bad guys, and the elemntals nothing.

So in the first two days only 2 people voted for villagers each time and 1 of them was a demon. So for the 3 games I've looked at 8 of 14 players who voted for villagers on each of the first two days turn out to be wolves. I'm going to keep going as I am finding this QUITE interesting.

Interesting result. My first thought is that the Sith attacked the blessed last night, but then, we don't know *who* it was they attacked.

Given that, I think that almost has to be the bodyguard. Keeping his identity a mystery, as well as his role, might make the Sith think twice about going after him, since they don't know what his role actually is.

Definitely a big momentum swing for us, whichever the case.